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Ive been cleaning up my tools, putting new handles on the (rather
large) number of hammer heads Ive aquired over the last few
years..and was cleaning up a 4lb shop hammer head and noticed it was
marked with some various casting graphic marks and started
wondering..is there any source out there that cover this sort of
thing?

This particular head has two triangle shaped graphics, one with a
single dot in it..and the other with 3 dots in a triangle shape and
what might be a makers mark..but its been bashed on at one time and
unreadable..or its the hammer end of the casting sprue...shrug.

No biggy..but was wondering if there are any websites that covers this
sort of thing? I did a couple minute search..but my Google Fu must be
weak today.

Anyone?

Gunner

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3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
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On 2/25/2013 2:39 PM, Gunner wrote:
Ive been cleaning up my tools, putting new handles on the (rather
large) number of hammer heads Ive aquired over the last few
years..and was cleaning up a 4lb shop hammer head and noticed it was
marked with some various casting graphic marks and started
wondering..is there any source out there that cover this sort of
thing?

This particular head has two triangle shaped graphics, one with a
single dot in it..and the other with 3 dots in a triangle shape and
what might be a makers mark..but its been bashed on at one time and
unreadable..or its the hammer end of the casting sprue...shrug.

No biggy..but was wondering if there are any websites that covers this
sort of thing? I did a couple minute search..but my Google Fu must be
weak today.

Anyone?

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

Perhaps a log branding hammer? Back in the late 40's and early 50's, Dad
had a portable sawmill and also sold various types of Douglas fir logs.
Each log had to be branded with a registered brand using a hammer about
like you describe. Except the handle was 2-3 feet long so you could
reach the top logs on a truck.

Felony to cut the brand off a log and rebrand it. Just like cattle rustling.

Paul
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On Feb 25, 3:39*pm, Gunner wrote:
Ive been cleaning up my tools, putting new handles on the (rather
large) number of hammer heads Ive aquired over the last few
years..and was cleaning up a 4lb shop hammer head and noticed it was
marked with some various casting graphic marks and started
wondering..is there any source out there that cover this sort of
thing?

This particular head has two triangle shaped graphics, one with a
single dot in it..and the other with 3 dots in a triangle shape and
what might be a makers mark..but its been bashed on at one time and
unreadable..or its the hammer end of the casting sprue...shrug.

No biggy..but was wondering if there are any websites that covers this
sort of thing? *I did a couple minute search..but my Google Fu must be
weak today.

Anyone?

Gunner


Probably drop-forged, not cast, don't recall any of my collection
being cast except a cheapy all-in-one that had screwdrivers in the
handle. Zinc head, brass-ish screwdrivers. Don't have anything like
those marks on any of mine, either. Most of the carpenter's hammers
have "Stanley" on them, the blacksmithing ones were mostly homemade,
looks like. Have a step-great-grandfather's, two grandfathers' and my
dad's hammers, makes a number of bucketsful. And rehandling old
hammerheads is a great idea, particularly if you get a free bucket of
handles to go with. Kind of wonder about the home-smithed variety,
some of those don't have tapered eyes. Relatively easy to put that
feature in when they were made, just wonder why they didn't do it.
There may be few stores that carry replacement handles, but not around
here. Would rather sell you some import crap hammer for a
replacement. Last spare handle I saw on a store peg was half the cost
of one of those pieces of crap, too.

Haven't seen anything on hammers specifically, but there are a number
of old handtool sites out there that might have some info if you'd
care to wade through them.

Stan

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Stanley Schaefer wrote:

On Feb 25, 3:39 pm, Gunner wrote:
Ive been cleaning up my tools, putting new handles on the (rather
large) number of hammer heads Ive aquired over the last few
years..and was cleaning up a 4lb shop hammer head and noticed it was
marked with some various casting graphic marks and started
wondering..is there any source out there that cover this sort of
thing?

This particular head has two triangle shaped graphics, one with a
single dot in it..and the other with 3 dots in a triangle shape and
what might be a makers mark..but its been bashed on at one time and
unreadable..or its the hammer end of the casting sprue...shrug.

No biggy..but was wondering if there are any websites that covers this
sort of thing? I did a couple minute search..but my Google Fu must be
weak today.

Anyone?

Gunner


Probably drop-forged, not cast, don't recall any of my collection
being cast except a cheapy all-in-one that had screwdrivers in the
handle. Zinc head, brass-ish screwdrivers. Don't have anything like
those marks on any of mine, either. Most of the carpenter's hammers
have "Stanley" on them, the blacksmithing ones were mostly homemade,
looks like. Have a step-great-grandfather's, two grandfathers' and my
dad's hammers, makes a number of bucketsful. And rehandling old
hammerheads is a great idea, particularly if you get a free bucket of
handles to go with. Kind of wonder about the home-smithed variety,
some of those don't have tapered eyes. Relatively easy to put that
feature in when they were made, just wonder why they didn't do it.
There may be few stores that carry replacement handles, but not around
here. Would rather sell you some import crap hammer for a
replacement. Last spare handle I saw on a store peg was half the cost
of one of those pieces of crap, too.

Haven't seen anything on hammers specifically, but there are a number
of old handtool sites out there that might have some info if you'd
care to wade through them.



About 15 years ago a freind had 11,000+ surplus hammer handles, and
was selling them for a nickle each at a flea market. I had the fun job
of sorting out the crap ones from the usable, and threw out a few
thousand with cracks or bad chips. He had bought them at an auction by
the pallet.
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On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 19:43:45 -0800 (PST), Stanley Schaefer
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On Feb 25, 3:39*pm, Gunner wrote:
Ive been cleaning up my tools, putting new handles on the (rather
large) number of hammer heads Ive aquired over the last few
years..and was cleaning up a 4lb shop hammer head and noticed it was
marked with some various casting graphic marks and started
wondering..is there any source out there that cover this sort of
thing?

This particular head has two triangle shaped graphics, one with a
single dot in it..and the other with 3 dots in a triangle shape and
what might be a makers mark..but its been bashed on at one time and
unreadable..or its the hammer end of the casting sprue...shrug.

No biggy..but was wondering if there are any websites that covers this
sort of thing? *I did a couple minute search..but my Google Fu must be
weak today.

Anyone?

Gunner


Probably drop-forged, not cast, don't recall any of my collection
being cast except a cheapy all-in-one that had screwdrivers in the
handle. Zinc head, brass-ish screwdrivers. Don't have anything like
those marks on any of mine, either. Most of the carpenter's hammers
have "Stanley" on them, the blacksmithing ones were mostly homemade,
looks like. Have a step-great-grandfather's, two grandfathers' and my
dad's hammers, makes a number of bucketsful. And rehandling old
hammerheads is a great idea, particularly if you get a free bucket of
handles to go with. Kind of wonder about the home-smithed variety,
some of those don't have tapered eyes. Relatively easy to put that
feature in when they were made, just wonder why they didn't do it.
There may be few stores that carry replacement handles, but not around
here. Would rather sell you some import crap hammer for a
replacement. Last spare handle I saw on a store peg was half the cost
of one of those pieces of crap, too.

Haven't seen anything on hammers specifically, but there are a number
of old handtool sites out there that might have some info if you'd
care to wade through them.

Stan


Local second hand/antique shop about 2 blocks from here. The owner
(now deceased) would travel around the US and buy up every thing from
wagon wheels to kerosene lanterns and lamps. Here in the oil
fields...lots of old tools and sledgehammers and wrenches and whatnot.

He died about 2 yrs ago...and his kids have been selling the stuff off
as best as they can. Neither of the kids are in good health either..so
they have been selling what and when they can. The old man bought
probably 500 hammer handles of all sorts someplace..US made stuff. Ive
bought probably 30 of them, some with hammer heads (ball pien) others
along for anywhere from $0.50 to a couple of bucks I gave him $80
for 100 lbs of sockets after sorting through all the SnapOn,
Craftsman, Proto, etc etc. Got the tool boxes in pretty good
shape...up to 3" sockets and wrenches. Lots of Armstrong and SnapOn
wrenches. Anyways...he still has a **** load of hammer handles and
Ive been going through the 15-20 ball pein and sledge hammers and shop
hammers and the axes and roofing axes and similar stuff Ive snagged
over the last year or so. Bought a couple Blackhawk 30 ton jacks and
3 or 4 Hi-Lift jacks for the trucks and shop last month for $60 for
the lot.

I liked the old man and I like the kids..so do what I can to help
out..and stock my tool boxes and trucks. Im up to my ass in 10,12 and
16lb sledge hammers and extra handles for them.

Red Chief seems to be promenant in the hammer handle brands. I guess I
should look em up and see who they are/were

Just looked for em..couldnt find any reference to them. Shrug

Nice hickory handles though.

Gunner



The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie
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