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WTB *LARGE* used plough disks
I am looking for a few (1 to 6) large (1 or 2 36 inch and 1
or 2 26 inch, and 1 or 2 22 inch nominal diameter) used plough disks. These can have either the smooth or scalloped/toothed edge. Should not be too rusty. Plan is to weld up Argentinean style discos de assado for some family members. To see what I am talking about goto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf5KtNidq9Y and http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...eTA-CM0kE&NR=1 {spotless shop to start} Main difference between the Argentine and Mexican style (and a wok) seems to be that the Argentine style has a 2-4 inch [5-10 CM] lip welded around the outside to allow these to be used as a paella pan and for braising in addition to stir frying. To see one in use goto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv5WYwJMuLc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7RiDOcu8BE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH5XMo-1boo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_4RofO3BN0 -- Unka' George "Gold is the money of kings, silver is the money of gentlemen, barter is the money of peasants, but debt is the money of slaves" -Norm Franz, "Money and Wealth in the New Millenium" |
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"F. George McDuffee" wrote in message ... I am looking for a few (1 to 6) large (1 or 2 36 inch and 1 or 2 26 inch, and 1 or 2 22 inch nominal diameter) used plough disks. These can have either the smooth or scalloped/toothed edge. Should not be too rusty. Plan is to weld up Argentinean style discos de assado for some family members. To see what I am talking about goto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf5KtNidq9Y and http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...eTA-CM0kE&NR=1 {spotless shop to start} Main difference between the Argentine and Mexican style (and a wok) seems to be that the Argentine style has a 2-4 inch [5-10 CM] lip welded around the outside to allow these to be used as a paella pan and for braising in addition to stir frying. To see one in use goto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv5WYwJMuLc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7RiDOcu8BE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH5XMo-1boo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_4RofO3BN0 -- Unka' George "Gold is the money of kings, silver is the money of gentlemen, barter is the money of peasants, but debt is the money of slaves" -Norm Franz, "Money and Wealth in the New Millenium" Wouldn't a tank head work the same? http://www.cmforming.com/tankheads-and-accessories.htm Paul K. Dickman |
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On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 08:39:18 -0600, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote: snip Wouldn't a tank head work the same? http://www.cmforming.com/tankheads-and-accessories.htm snip ============= Thanks for the link. Yes, but the cost is higher than a used disk (I think) although this may be offset by reducing fab time and cost of material for the lip/rim. I live in a rural area, but all the farmers here seem to use the smaller diameter disks, which would be suitable for a small unit to go on your bbq grill or kitchen stove ( and should fit in the oven for easy paella). Several people have contacted me off list and it appears there are far more of these being made/used in the states than I thought. Plenty of these units for sale at good prices in Argentina, Brazil, Chile, but the freight is a killer. Some commercial units w/o lip/rim at http://bluemoondisk.com/About_Us.html http://www.disc-it.com/ {has cnc plasma cut supports} Google search term is discada Don't have permission to post the emails, but some of the more interesting links these contained a http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php?t=112481 http://www.thesmokering.com/forum/vi...ae8f 8ce16bf2 Thanks for the info -- Unka' George "Gold is the money of kings, silver is the money of gentlemen, barter is the money of peasants, but debt is the money of slaves" -Norm Franz, "Money and Wealth in the New Millenium" |
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On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 14:26:47 -0600, F. George McDuffee
wrote: On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 08:39:18 -0600, "Paul K. Dickman" wrote: snip Wouldn't a tank head work the same? http://www.cmforming.com/tankheads-and-accessories.htm snip ============= Thanks for the link. Yes, but the cost is higher than a used disk (I think) although this may be offset by reducing fab time and cost of material for the lip/rim. I live in a rural area, but all the farmers here seem to use the smaller diameter disks, which would be suitable for a small unit to go on your bbq grill or kitchen stove ( and should fit in the oven for easy paella). Several people have contacted me off list and it appears there are far more of these being made/used in the states than I thought. Plenty of these units for sale at good prices in Argentina, Brazil, Chile, but the freight is a killer. Some commercial units w/o lip/rim at http://bluemoondisk.com/About_Us.html http://www.disc-it.com/ {has cnc plasma cut supports} Google search term is discada Don't have permission to post the emails, but some of the more interesting links these contained a http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php?t=112481 http://www.thesmokering.com/forum/vi...ae8f 8ce16bf2 Thanks for the info Or just use a larger Wok. You can get them here up to about 36" in diameter :-) -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 09:43:03 +0700, John B.
wrote: snip Or just use a larger Wok. You can get them here up to about 36" in diameter :-) snip Another good suggestion. Large woks would be a solution, but these have a rounded bottom and are difficult to use on western stoves, although they should work OK on a gas turkey frier. While it won't have quite the cachet/brio of a welded disco de arado, it appears the solution will be the purchase of several large paella pans. According to the pan sellers websites, a 26 inch pan will fit on most bbq grills or can be used on a turkey frier [at low heat]. Looks like these can also be used as flat grill or griddle. The smaller 20-22 inch units will fit on most kitchen stoves and will also fit in the oven for easy paella. The copper paella pans, although beautiful (too nice to use?), are a "spicy meatball" in the larger sizes, so it looks like black or polished steel. I found several suppliers which may be of interest to the people following this semi metal related thread. Spicy meatball http://www.amazon.com/Sertodo-Alican...rds=paella+pan over the top http://www.paellapans.com/60-inch-Ca...Pan-p/c-60.htm steel http://www.amazon.com/Garcima-26-Inc...rds=paella+pan http://www.amazon.com/Garcima-20-Inc...rds=paella+pan http://www.paellapans.com/Carbon-Steel-s/34.htm http://www.creativecookware.com/Carb...-P587C108.aspx Utilitarian solution [no brio points] for bbq grill, turkey frier, or stove http://www.amazon.com/Sportsman-CISS...N%3DB003AMKVEU http://www.jbtoolsales.com/buffalo-t...giant-skillet/ -- Unka' George "Gold is the money of kings, silver is the money of gentlemen, barter is the money of peasants, but debt is the money of slaves" -Norm Franz, "Money and Wealth in the New Millenium" |
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On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 22:32:47 -0600, F. George McDuffee
wrote: On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 09:43:03 +0700, John B. wrote: snip Or just use a larger Wok. You can get them here up to about 36" in diameter :-) snip Another good suggestion. Large woks would be a solution, but these have a rounded bottom and are difficult to use on western stoves, although they should work OK on a gas turkey frier. Over here (where a Wok is a mandatory kitchen utensil) you can buy a ring that sits on top of your stove burner and supports the wok. the wok is perhaps a half inch higher then a flat bottom pot would be but wok cooking is usually at pretty high heat and done very quickly so it doesn't seem to bother local cooks. I once made something or another out of a disc harrow disk and as I remember it, it was fairly thick. I'd think that cooking with one would be much like using an old cast iron skillet - light the stove and have a cuppa coffee while it is getting hot :-) While it won't have quite the cachet/brio of a welded disco de arado, it appears the solution will be the purchase of several large paella pans. According to the pan sellers websites, a 26 inch pan will fit on most bbq grills or can be used on a turkey frier [at low heat]. Looks like these can also be used as flat grill or griddle The smaller 20-22 inch units will fit on most kitchen stoves and will also fit in the oven for easy paella. The copper paella pans, although beautiful (too nice to use?), are a "spicy meatball" in the larger sizes, so it looks like black or polished steel. I found several suppliers which may be of interest to the people following this semi metal related thread. Spicy meatball http://www.amazon.com/Sertodo-Alican...rds=paella+pan over the top http://www.paellapans.com/60-inch-Ca...Pan-p/c-60.htm steel http://www.amazon.com/Garcima-26-Inc...rds=paella+pan http://www.amazon.com/Garcima-20-Inc...rds=paella+pan http://www.paellapans.com/Carbon-Steel-s/34.htm http://www.creativecookware.com/Carb...-P587C108.aspx Utilitarian solution [no brio points] for bbq grill, turkey frier, or stove http://www.amazon.com/Sportsman-CISS...N%3DB003AMKVEU http://www.jbtoolsales.com/buffalo-t...giant-skillet/ -- Cheers, John B. |
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Small point, but the flat discs are "rolling coulters" (or just "coulters")
for moldboard plows. They usually have a round center hole and a ring of mounting holes around that one. The concave disks are "disk harrow" disks. They usually have a square hole. It wasn't clear to me if the guy in the first video was going to make one of those things from a coulter or if he was just showing the coulter to the customer. (My Spanish isn't very good). Looks like he always welds up the holes to me. If you don't find any discs from other sources, check out any used farm equipment place. They often take old disc harrows apart to prepare them for scrap. For example, here's one that's close to me (Downing Tractor): https://www.tractorpartsasap.com/Articles.asp?ID=133 Farm auctions can also be a good source. Related to farm auctions--- There are almost always a couple of guys who do scrapping for a living who come to farm auctions. They buy up the old, worn out, obsolete machinery that no on else wants to bid on. They take it to their location and dismantle the stuff to sort it into piles that will bring the highest scrap prices. (Cast iron vs. sheet metal, vs mild steel, etc..). They will most certainly be the guys who will have the discs available. If I wanted to locate them, I'd contact any farm auction service in your area and ask for some names. Pete Stanaitis ---------------- "F. George McDuffee" wrote in message ... I am looking for a few (1 to 6) large (1 or 2 36 inch and 1 or 2 26 inch, and 1 or 2 22 inch nominal diameter) used plough disks. These can have either the smooth or scalloped/toothed edge. Should not be too rusty. Plan is to weld up Argentinean style discos de assado for some family members. To see what I am talking about goto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf5KtNidq9Y and http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...eTA-CM0kE&NR=1 {spotless shop to start} Main difference between the Argentine and Mexican style (and a wok) seems to be that the Argentine style has a 2-4 inch [5-10 CM] lip welded around the outside to allow these to be used as a paella pan and for braising in addition to stir frying. To see one in use goto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv5WYwJMuLc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7RiDOcu8BE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH5XMo-1boo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_4RofO3BN0 -- Unka' George "Gold is the money of kings, silver is the money of gentlemen, barter is the money of peasants, but debt is the money of slaves" -Norm Franz, "Money and Wealth in the New Millenium" |
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"F. George McDuffee" wrote in message
... On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 08:39:18 -0600, "Paul K. Dickman" wrote: snip Wouldn't a tank head work the same? http://www.cmforming.com/tankheads-and-accessories.htm snip ============= Thanks for the link. Yes, but the cost is higher than a used disk (I think) That would depend on circumstances I suspect. We used to play softball in the desert at an Easter picnic every year. We used old discs as bases. |
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On 2/2/2013 1:55 AM, F. George McDuffee wrote:
I am looking for a few (1 to 6) large (1 or 2 36 inch and 1 or 2 26 inch, and 1 or 2 22 inch nominal diameter) used plough disks. These can have either the smooth or scalloped/toothed edge. Should not be too rusty. Plan is to weld up Argentinean style discos de assado for some family members. To see what I am talking about goto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf5KtNidq9Y and http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...eTA-CM0kE&NR=1 {spotless shop to start} Main difference between the Argentine and Mexican style (and a wok) seems to be that the Argentine style has a 2-4 inch [5-10 CM] lip welded around the outside to allow these to be used as a paella pan and for braising in addition to stir frying. To see one in use goto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv5WYwJMuLc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7RiDOcu8BE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH5XMo-1boo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_4RofO3BN0 it's probably location dependent. i found a pile in a junkyard in s phx a few years ago. i had the square hole welded shut, and use it as a glass slumping mold. http://glassartists.org/ChaniArts |
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