So, when I go to play with the connections on an acetylene torch, I have
to mutter "tighten it off" or "loosen it on" as I'm turning to get it
right.

What do you do? Or are you just so mechanically inclined that you have
no trouble?

--
My liberal friends think I'm a conservative kook.
My conservative friends think I'm a liberal kook.
Why am I not happy that they have found common ground?

Tim Wescott, Communications, Control, Circuits & Software
http://www.wescottdesign.com

There are marks on left hand fittings
On 2013-01-11, Tim Wescott wrote:
So, when I go to play with the connections on an acetylene torch, I have
to mutter "tighten it off" or "loosen it on" as I'm turning to get it
right.

What do you do? Or are you just so mechanically inclined that you have
no trouble?

Ignoramus31094 wrote:
There are marks on left hand fittings
On 2013-01-11, Tim Wescott wrote:

So, when I go to play with the connections on an acetylene torch, I have
to mutter "tighten it off" or "loosen it on" as I'm turning to get it
right.

What do you do? Or are you just so mechanically inclined that you have
no trouble?


Just to confuse matters I have some RH threaded unions with the same
nicks that would usually be on LH ones. I don't know why they came that
way but I know from the application which way to unscrew them.

On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:34:24 -0500, BQ340 wrote:

On 1/11/2013 4:58 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
So, when I go to play with the connections on an acetylene torch, I
have to mutter "tighten it off" or "loosen it on" as I'm turning to get
it right.

What do you do? Or are you just so mechanically inclined that you have
no trouble?


Don't all the left hand thread nuts on the hoses have a small nick
machined into the nut body to remind you?

Well, yes. But when you're staring at those nicks trying to keep
yourself from tightening the f*** out of your acetylene lines while
attempting to take them off, do you do anything special? Or do you just
automatically turn them the right (or perhaps I should say left) way?

To me, those nicks say "Warning! Warning! Confusion ahead!"

--
My liberal friends think I'm a conservative kook.
My conservative friends think I'm a liberal kook.
Why am I not happy that they have found common ground?

Tim Wescott, Communications, Control, Circuits & Software
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Tim Wescott wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:34:24 -0500, BQ340 wrote:

On 1/11/2013 4:58 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
So, when I go to play with the connections on an acetylene torch, I
have to mutter "tighten it off" or "loosen it on" as I'm turning to get
it right.

What do you do? Or are you just so mechanically inclined that you have
no trouble?


Don't all the left hand thread nuts on the hoses have a small nick
machined into the nut body to remind you?

Well, yes. But when you're staring at those nicks trying to keep
yourself from tightening the f*** out of your acetylene lines while
attempting to take them off, do you do anything special? Or do you just
automatically turn them the right (or perhaps I should say left) way?

To me, those nicks say "Warning! Warning! Confusion ahead!"


Go buy a paint marker from the craft section or an engraving pencil and
tag the left hand fittings.

--
Steve W.

Tim Wescott wrote:
So, when I go to play with the connections on an acetylene torch, I have
to mutter "tighten it off" or "loosen it on" as I'm turning to get it
right.

What do you do? Or are you just so mechanically inclined that you have
no trouble?

Just remember, flammable gasses threads are usually opposite to normal
threads, or do you have problems with normal right hand threads as well?

On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 12:46:31 +1100, F Murtz wrote:

Tim Wescott wrote:
So, when I go to play with the connections on an acetylene torch, I
have to mutter "tighten it off" or "loosen it on" as I'm turning to get
it right.

What do you do? Or are you just so mechanically inclined that you have
no trouble?

Just remember, flammable gasses threads are usually opposite to normal
threads, or do you have problems with normal right hand threads as well?

I can screw and unscrew bolts inside of blind spaces with my arm cranked
up like a pretzel. I never have a problem with right hand threads.

I think my problem is that I've got right hand threads so ingrained in my
brain that as soon as I think "loose" or "tight" I turn the thing the
correct direction -- for a right hand thread.

Interesting. I guess my problem is unique.

--
My liberal friends think I'm a conservative kook.
My conservative friends think I'm a liberal kook.
Why am I not happy that they have found common ground?

Tim Wescott, Communications, Control, Circuits & Software
http://www.wescottdesign.com

F Murtz wrote:
Tim Wescott wrote:
So, when I go to play with the connections on an acetylene torch, I have
to mutter "tighten it off" or "loosen it on" as I'm turning to get it
right.

What do you do? Or are you just so mechanically inclined that you have
no trouble?

Just remember, flammable gasses threads are usually opposite to normal
threads, or do you have problems with normal right hand threads as well?


That depends a LOT on the gas, the tank type and size. Propane has at
least 5 different threads with both left and right hand threads.

--
Steve W.

"Tim Wescott" wrote in message
...
So, when I go to play with the connections on an acetylene torch, I have
to mutter "tighten it off" or "loosen it on" as I'm turning to get it
right.

What do you do? Or are you just so mechanically inclined that you have
no trouble?

I just look at the threads. And for the nick. And the color of the hose.

Steve

On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:30:28 -0600, Tim Wescott
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:34:24 -0500, BQ340 wrote:

On 1/11/2013 4:58 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
So, when I go to play with the connections on an acetylene torch, I
have to mutter "tighten it off" or "loosen it on" as I'm turning to get
it right.

What do you do? Or are you just so mechanically inclined that you have
no trouble?


Don't all the left hand thread nuts on the hoses have a small nick
machined into the nut body to remind you?

Well, yes. But when you're staring at those nicks trying to keep
yourself from tightening the f*** out of your acetylene lines while
attempting to take them off, do you do anything special? Or do you just
automatically turn them the right (or perhaps I should say left) way?

To me, those nicks say "Warning! Warning! Confusion ahead!"

"Left on, right off"

But mostly..I know which is supposed to be which..and the little nicks
in the corners of the flats certainly helps. Same with Tig coolers etc
etc

Gunner



The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 21:22:55 -0600, Tim Wescott
wrote:

On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 12:46:31 +1100, F Murtz wrote:

Tim Wescott wrote:
So, when I go to play with the connections on an acetylene torch, I
have to mutter "tighten it off" or "loosen it on" as I'm turning to get
it right.

What do you do? Or are you just so mechanically inclined that you have
no trouble?

Just remember, flammable gasses threads are usually opposite to normal
threads, or do you have problems with normal right hand threads as well?

I can screw and unscrew bolts inside of blind spaces with my arm cranked
up like a pretzel. I never have a problem with right hand threads.

I think my problem is that I've got right hand threads so ingrained in my
brain that as soon as I think "loose" or "tight" I turn the thing the
correct direction -- for a right hand thread.

Interesting. I guess my problem is unique.

Nope..its very very common with most people. Most folks have so little
experience with lefthand threads that its rare and unique to most of
them.

About the most lefthand thread use that I can think of were lug nuts
on some older motor vehicles

http://www.carcraft.com/junkyardcraw...lefthand_lugs/

And of course..bicycle cranks....

So how many people actually learn to turn em?
Few.


Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

Gunner wrote:
Interesting. I guess my problem is unique.

Nope..its very very common with most people. Most folks have so little
experience with lefthand threads that its rare and unique to most of
them.

About the most lefthand thread use that I can think of were lug nuts
on some older motor vehicles

http://www.carcraft.com/junkyardcraw...lefthand_lugs/

And of course..bicycle cranks....

So how many people actually learn to turn em?
Few.


Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie



Tie rod ends on most vehicle have one RH one LH. Some fan clutches as
well. A few others still out there as well, usually in spots where a RH
thread would tend to loosen from the predominant torque direction, or
when a company wants to make it difficult for after market add-ons.

--
Steve W.

"Gunner" wrote in message
...

So how many people actually learn to turn em?
Few.
Gunner

I learned the hard way. Thick paint covered the Ls on the wheel studs
on the driver's side of the Army truck with a flat tire. I couldn't
loosen a lug nut so I enlisted a buddy about my not-so-large size to
help, and together we managed to turn it, the wrong way.

Then we sheepishly called on the motor pool mechanics to fix our
little oops. They were so impressed that we were strong enough to
strip the stud that they didn't give us any grief about replacing it.
Afterwards they treated us with respect instead of like geeky
electronic techs.
jsw

On Saturday, January 12, 2013 3:24:52 AM UTC-5, Steve W. wrote:

Tie rod ends on most vehicle have one RH one LH. Some fan clutches as

well. A few others still out there as well, usually in spots where a RH

thread would tend to loosen from the predominant torque direction, or

when a company wants to make it difficult for after market add-ons.



--

Steve W.

The light bulbs in New York City subway stations have left-hand threaded edison bases to discourage theft.

Bicycle pedals?
Lugnuts on older camper trailers?

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Steve W." wrote in message
...

Tie rod ends on most vehicle have one RH one LH. Some fan clutches as
well. A few others still out there as well, usually in spots where a RH
thread would tend to loosen from the predominant torque direction, or
when a company wants to make it difficult for after market add-ons.

--
Steve W.

Jim Wilkins wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
...

So how many people actually learn to turn em?
Few.
Gunner

I learned the hard way. Thick paint covered the Ls on the wheel studs
on the driver's side of the Army truck with a flat tire. I couldn't
loosen a lug nut so I enlisted a buddy about my not-so-large size to
help, and together we managed to turn it, the wrong way.

Then we sheepishly called on the motor pool mechanics to fix our
little oops. They were so impressed that we were strong enough to
strip the stud that they didn't give us any grief about replacing it.
Afterwards they treated us with respect instead of like geeky
electronic techs.


That, and they didn't want any more stripped studs to replace.

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...

That, and they didn't want any more stripped studs to replace.

Well, we weren't going to make THAT mistake again. OTOH I wish I could
have declined the honor of being entrusted to change split-rim truck
tires.
jsw

Jim Wilkins wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" ? wrote in message
...
?
? That, and they didn't want any more stripped studs to replace.

Well, we weren't going to make THAT mistake again. OTOH I wish I could
have declined the honor of being entrusted to change split-rim truck
tires.


That is the one job I willingly paid for when I owned a stepvan.

Tim Wescott wrote:

So, when I go to play with the connections on an acetylene torch, I have
to mutter "tighten it off" or "loosen it on" as I'm turning to get it
right.

What do you do? Or are you just so mechanically inclined that you have
no trouble?

No trouble here. Fuel gasses = left hand thread.

On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 11:05:38 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...

That, and they didn't want any more stripped studs to replace.

Well, we weren't going to make THAT mistake again. OTOH I wish I could
have declined the honor of being entrusted to change split-rim truck
tires.

Did they at least allow you chains and cages while airing up?

--
I started out with nothing and
I still have most of it left!
--anon

On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 09:20:24 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

Bicycle pedals?
Lugnuts on older camper trailers?


And old mopars, and old oldsmobiles, among other automotive brands.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"Steve W." wrote in message
...

Tie rod ends on most vehicle have one RH one LH. Some fan clutches as
well. A few others still out there as well, usually in spots where a RH
thread would tend to loosen from the predominant torque direction, or
when a company wants to make it difficult for after market add-ons.

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 11:05:38 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

Well, we weren't going to make THAT mistake again. OTOH I wish I
could
have declined the honor of being entrusted to change split-rim truck
tires.

Did they at least allow you chains and cages while airing up?

It was a relief to find out what that cramped cage and the barbaric
implements around it were really used for.

On 1/11/2013 4:58 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
....
What do you do? Or are you just so mechanically inclined that you have
no trouble?

"Right/left hand" threads means you use your right/left hand to show the
direction: curl your fingers & stick your thumb out - when the nut or
bolt turns in the direction your fingers are pointing, it moves axially
in the direction your thumb is pointing.

I hold my hand out a lot more than I used to - I seem to be getting
worse with age. I'm now forgetting what it took me so long to learn G.

Bob

On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 11:58:56 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Jim Wilkins wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" ? wrote in message
...
?
? That, and they didn't want any more stripped studs to replace.

Well, we weren't going to make THAT mistake again. OTOH I wish I could
have declined the honor of being entrusted to change split-rim truck
tires.


That is the one job I willingly paid for when I owned a stepvan.

Story time: Dad had a fellow from deep East Texas working for him,
James Bird by name. The man was not large, about 180#, 6 ft., but
man, he was strong. Dad gave him the job of changing all the tires on
the bobtail truck, and he finished it in about 3 hours using just the
hand tools we had, including a couple heavy tire irons and a sledge.
Dad was really impressed until he tried to drive the truck. Every
wheel was bent, and you couldn't go over about 20 mph without shaking
to death.

I don't remember how we got that fixed. I guess there are shops that
can straighten them.

Pete Keillor

On 01/11/2013 03:30 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:34:24 -0500, BQ340 wrote:

On 1/11/2013 4:58 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
So, when I go to play with the connections on an acetylene torch, I
have to mutter "tighten it off" or "loosen it on" as I'm turning to get
it right.

What do you do? Or are you just so mechanically inclined that you have
no trouble?


Don't all the left hand thread nuts on the hoses have a small nick
machined into the nut body to remind you?

Well, yes. But when you're staring at those nicks trying to keep
yourself from tightening the f*** out of your acetylene lines while
attempting to take them off, do you do anything special? Or do you just
automatically turn them the right (or perhaps I should say left) way?

I treat them as a special case, and tell myself to tighten them when
removing, and tell myself to loosen them when tightening.

Jon

Pete Keillor wrote:

On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 11:58:56 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
? wrote:

?
?Jim Wilkins wrote:
??
?? "Michael A. Terrell" ? wrote in message
?? ...
?? ?
?? ? That, and they didn't want any more stripped studs to replace.
??
?? Well, we weren't going to make THAT mistake again. OTOH I wish I could
?? have declined the honor of being entrusted to change split-rim truck
?? tires.
?
?
? That is the one job I willingly paid for when I owned a stepvan.

Story time: Dad had a fellow from deep East Texas working for him,
James Bird by name. The man was not large, about 180#, 6 ft., but
man, he was strong. Dad gave him the job of changing all the tires on
the bobtail truck, and he finished it in about 3 hours using just the
hand tools we had, including a couple heavy tire irons and a sledge.
Dad was really impressed until he tried to drive the truck. Every
wheel was bent, and you couldn't go over about 20 mph without shaking
to death.

I don't remember how we got that fixed. I guess there are shops that
can straighten them.


Or used rims from a wreck.