http://www.ironplanet.com/jsp/s/item/409611?h=null

The truck is not the greatest, but the price is not bad.

Assuming that it cannot be brought up to running condition, I think
that I will take out the diesel engine, it has only 76,000 miles, and
sell it separately, take the wheels etc and scrap the rest.

i

Ignoramus25449 fired this volley in
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Assuming that it cannot be brought up to running condition, I think
that I will take out the diesel engine, it has only 76,000 miles, and
sell it separately, take the wheels etc and scrap the rest.

Ig,

There is one issue with that particular engine that, even if it exists is
not terrible expensive to fix. With that many miles on it, the problem
may not have even manifest itself yet.

That engine in a long series of model years had cylinder wall porosity
that would allow a small seep of coolant into the cylinders during the
intake stroke. It was evidenced by coolant use, white exhaust when
extreme, and rapid exhaust valve erosion when extreme.

A LOT of engine shops are set up to bore and sleeve that engine for not
much money.

LLoyd

On 2012-09-19, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Ignoramus25449 fired this volley in
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Assuming that it cannot be brought up to running condition, I think
that I will take out the diesel engine, it has only 76,000 miles, and
sell it separately, take the wheels etc and scrap the rest.

Ig,

There is one issue with that particular engine that, even if it exists is
not terrible expensive to fix. With that many miles on it, the problem
may not have even manifest itself yet.

That engine in a long series of model years had cylinder wall porosity
that would allow a small seep of coolant into the cylinders during the
intake stroke. It was evidenced by coolant use, white exhaust when
extreme, and rapid exhaust valve erosion when extreme.

A LOT of engine shops are set up to bore and sleeve that engine for not
much money.

Lloyd, so, you are saying that the engine is not worth that much?
Could I get $2k for it?

i

Ignoramus25449 fired this volley in
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Lloyd, so, you are saying that the engine is not worth that much?
Could I get $2k for it?

No, no! That engine is the workhorse motor for trucks in that class, and
for some of the older 80s-early90s Ford 350 dualies. Every U-Haul JH
truck on the road had one for at least 15 years when I was renting them a
lot. It's a great, strong, long-lasting motor.

I'd bet you'd sell it in a couple of days for $2K in running condition.

LLoyd

On 2012-09-19, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Ignoramus25449 fired this volley in
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Lloyd, so, you are saying that the engine is not worth that much?
Could I get $2k for it?

No, no! That engine is the workhorse motor for trucks in that class, and
for some of the older 80s-early90s Ford 350 dualies. Every U-Haul JH
truck on the road had one for at least 15 years when I was renting them a
lot. It's a great, strong, long-lasting motor.

I'd bet you'd sell it in a couple of days for $2K in running condition.

LLoyd

This is great! Our plan A would be to see if we can get the truck to
just be a good running truck, easily. If that does not work, which is
most likely, then we will take out and sell the engine with
transmission.

Thanks a lot!

i

"Ignoramus25449" wrote in message
...
http://www.ironplanet.com/jsp/s/item/409611?h=null

The truck is not the greatest, but the price is not bad.

Assuming that it cannot be brought up to running condition, I think
that I will take out the diesel engine, it has only 76,000 miles, and
sell it separately, take the wheels etc and scrap the rest.

i

You turd. You didn't even call me.

Steve ;-)

On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:01:56 -0500, Ignoramus25449
wrote:

http://www.ironplanet.com/jsp/s/item/409611?h=null

The truck is not the greatest, but the price is not bad.

Truth!


Assuming that it cannot be brought up to running condition, I think
that I will take out the diesel engine, it has only 76,000 miles, and
sell it separately, take the wheels etc and scrap the rest.

Why not turn it into a wrecker for the rest of your fleet?

--
The most decisive actions of our life - I mean those that are most
likely to decide the whole course of our future - are, more often
than not, unconsidered.
-- Andre Gide

On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:23:33 -0500, Ignoramus25449
wrote:

On 2012-09-19, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Ignoramus25449 fired this volley in
:

Lloyd, so, you are saying that the engine is not worth that much?
Could I get $2k for it?

No, no! That engine is the workhorse motor for trucks in that class, and
for some of the older 80s-early90s Ford 350 dualies. Every U-Haul JH
truck on the road had one for at least 15 years when I was renting them a
lot. It's a great, strong, long-lasting motor.

I'd bet you'd sell it in a couple of days for $2K in running condition.

LLoyd

This is great! Our plan A would be to see if we can get the truck to
just be a good running truck, easily. If that does not work, which is
most likely, then we will take out and sell the engine with
transmission.

It shouldn't cost much or take much time to replace the master and
wheel cylinders + brake lines. Then you could get $10k(?) for it.
The doors latches might simply need to be lubed to latch correctly.

--
The most decisive actions of our life - I mean those that are most
likely to decide the whole course of our future - are, more often
than not, unconsidered.
-- Andre Gide

On 2012-09-20, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:01:56 -0500, Ignoramus25449
wrote:

http://www.ironplanet.com/jsp/s/item/409611?h=null

The truck is not the greatest, but the price is not bad.

Truth!


Assuming that it cannot be brought up to running condition, I think
that I will take out the diesel engine, it has only 76,000 miles, and
sell it separately, take the wheels etc and scrap the rest.

Why not turn it into a wrecker for the rest of your fleet?


I hope that we'll never need a wrecker for OUR fleet!!!

i

On 2012-09-20, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:23:33 -0500, Ignoramus25449
wrote:

On 2012-09-19, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Ignoramus25449 fired this volley in
:

Lloyd, so, you are saying that the engine is not worth that much?
Could I get $2k for it?

No, no! That engine is the workhorse motor for trucks in that class, and
for some of the older 80s-early90s Ford 350 dualies. Every U-Haul JH
truck on the road had one for at least 15 years when I was renting them a
lot. It's a great, strong, long-lasting motor.

I'd bet you'd sell it in a couple of days for $2K in running condition.

LLoyd

This is great! Our plan A would be to see if we can get the truck to
just be a good running truck, easily. If that does not work, which is
most likely, then we will take out and sell the engine with
transmission.

It shouldn't cost much or take much time to replace the master and
wheel cylinders + brake lines. Then you could get $10k(?) for it.
The doors latches might simply need to be lubed to latch correctly.


I was thinking of more like getting $4k for it, not 10k. It is pretty
rusted.

But I will be happy if I can sell the diesel engine+trans for $2k and
scrap the rest for $1k, and sell the wheels for $300.

i

On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:04:29 -0500, Ignoramus25449
wrote:

On 2012-09-20, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:01:56 -0500, Ignoramus25449
wrote:

http://www.ironplanet.com/jsp/s/item/409611?h=null

The truck is not the greatest, but the price is not bad.

Truth!


Assuming that it cannot be brought up to running condition, I think
that I will take out the diesel engine, it has only 76,000 miles, and
sell it separately, take the wheels etc and scrap the rest.

Why not turn it into a wrecker for the rest of your fleet?


I hope that we'll never need a wrecker for OUR fleet!!!

That would have allowed you to get your new 18-wheeler home without
hiring a driver, wouldn't it?

--
The most decisive actions of our life - I mean those that are most
likely to decide the whole course of our future - are, more often
than not, unconsidered.
-- Andre Gide

On 2012-09-20, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:04:29 -0500, Ignoramus25449
wrote:

On 2012-09-20, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:01:56 -0500, Ignoramus25449
wrote:

http://www.ironplanet.com/jsp/s/item/409611?h=null

The truck is not the greatest, but the price is not bad.

Truth!


Assuming that it cannot be brought up to running condition, I think
that I will take out the diesel engine, it has only 76,000 miles, and
sell it separately, take the wheels etc and scrap the rest.

Why not turn it into a wrecker for the rest of your fleet?


I hope that we'll never need a wrecker for OUR fleet!!!

That would have allowed you to get your new 18-wheeler home without
hiring a driver, wouldn't it?


We have a driver...

i

On 9/19/2012 2:01 PM, Ignoramus25449 wrote:
http://www.ironplanet.com/jsp/s/item/409611?h=null

The truck is not the greatest, but the price is not bad.

Assuming that it cannot be brought up to running condition, I think
that I will take out the diesel engine, it has only 76,000 miles, and
sell it separately, take the wheels etc and scrap the rest.

i
looks to me like the truck sat 1/2 submerged in a river or lake for
several years. Perhaps that is why the brake lines are missing. Was
someone killed in the truck? Check the VIN with the local police.

Paul

Ignoramus25449 wrote:
http://www.ironplanet.com/jsp/s/item/409611?h=null

The truck is not the greatest, but the price is not bad.

Assuming that it cannot be brought up to running condition, I think
that I will take out the diesel engine, it has only 76,000 miles, and
sell it separately, take the wheels etc and scrap the rest.

i

katrina special?

On 2012-09-20, Cydrome Leader wrote:
Ignoramus25449 wrote:
http://www.ironplanet.com/jsp/s/item/409611?h=null

The truck is not the greatest, but the price is not bad.

Assuming that it cannot be brought up to running condition, I think
that I will take out the diesel engine, it has only 76,000 miles, and
sell it separately, take the wheels etc and scrap the rest.

i

katrina special?

Hopefully, I will get to see the title, then I will know.

Trucks rot in Illinois from all that salt, that may explain why it is
so rotten on the bottom. I doubt that it sat in the lake, since the
engine still starts. We'll see.

i

On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:00:45 -0500, Ignoramus25449
wrote:

On 2012-09-20, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:04:29 -0500, Ignoramus25449
wrote:

On 2012-09-20, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:01:56 -0500, Ignoramus25449
wrote:

http://www.ironplanet.com/jsp/s/item/409611?h=null

The truck is not the greatest, but the price is not bad.

Truth!


Assuming that it cannot be brought up to running condition, I think
that I will take out the diesel engine, it has only 76,000 miles, and
sell it separately, take the wheels etc and scrap the rest.

Why not turn it into a wrecker for the rest of your fleet?


I hope that we'll never need a wrecker for OUR fleet!!!

That would have allowed you to get your new 18-wheeler home without
hiring a driver, wouldn't it?


We have a driver...

....NOW.

--
I would be the most content if my children grew up to be the kind of people
who think decorating consists mostly of building enough bookshelves.
-- Anna Quindlen

On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:05:41 -0500, Ignoramus25449
wrote:

On 2012-09-20, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:23:33 -0500, Ignoramus25449
wrote:

On 2012-09-19, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Ignoramus25449 fired this volley in
:

Lloyd, so, you are saying that the engine is not worth that much?
Could I get $2k for it?

No, no! That engine is the workhorse motor for trucks in that class, and
for some of the older 80s-early90s Ford 350 dualies. Every U-Haul JH
truck on the road had one for at least 15 years when I was renting them a
lot. It's a great, strong, long-lasting motor.

BUT that mileage sounds Real Low for a truck that age. I'd track down
the original owners and ask if it's always been run Locally 5 miles
out and back, or been Clocked by the dealer - or it just rolled over
100,000 and only has a 5-digit odometer.

I'd bet you'd sell it in a couple of days for $2K in running condition.

LLoyd

This is great! Our plan A would be to see if we can get the truck to
just be a good running truck, easily. If that does not work, which is
most likely, then we will take out and sell the engine with
transmission.

It shouldn't cost much or take much time to replace the master and
wheel cylinders + brake lines. Then you could get $10k(?) for it.
The doors latches might simply need to be lubed to latch correctly.


I was thinking of more like getting $4k for it, not 10k. It is pretty
rusted.

But I will be happy if I can sell the diesel engine+trans for $2k and
scrap the rest for $1k, and sell the wheels for $300.

The rust in the doors is what worries me - the doors might not latch
because the door-posts rusted and the latches or strikes ripped out.

And being an International, finding replacement door posts and
replacement complete doors (swap the inner skins and latches over) can
be done, but they might cost a bit more than you expect. International
has always been good at keeping the pieces available to keep their
gear running - they know if it can't be driven you can't earn money
with it.

If you want to take the time to root out all the rust and section in
repair pieces and paint it, you'll probably get your investment back
in resale value. If you take it to a body shop and pay retail, not so
much.

It came up as SOLD, was that you?

-- Bruce --

"Bruce L. Bergman (munged human readable)"
fired this volley in
:

If you want to take the time to root out all the rust and section in
repair pieces and paint it, you'll probably get your investment back
in resale value. If you take it to a body shop and pay retail, not so
much.

Bruce, he could just scrap it out and get his $500 back!

Lloyd

On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:03:36 -0700, "Bruce L. Bergman (munged human
readable)" wrote:

On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:05:41 -0500, Ignoramus25449
wrote:

On 2012-09-20, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:23:33 -0500, Ignoramus25449
wrote:

On 2012-09-19, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Ignoramus25449 fired this volley in
:

Lloyd, so, you are saying that the engine is not worth that much?
Could I get $2k for it?

No, no! That engine is the workhorse motor for trucks in that class, and
for some of the older 80s-early90s Ford 350 dualies. Every U-Haul JH
truck on the road had one for at least 15 years when I was renting them a
lot. It's a great, strong, long-lasting motor.

BUT that mileage sounds Real Low for a truck that age. I'd track down
the original owners and ask if it's always been run Locally 5 miles
out and back, or been Clocked by the dealer - or it just rolled over
100,000 and only has a 5-digit odometer.

My 1990 F-150 had the 5-digit odo and Ford phased in 6-digits in 1992,
but I don't know if that was a global industry date.

--
Life is like one big Mardi Gras. But instead of showing your boobs,
show people your brain, and if they like what they see, you'll have
more beads than you know what to do with.
-- Ellen DeGeneres, Tulane Commencement Speech, 2009

On 2012-09-21, Bruce L. Bergman (munged human readable) wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:05:41 -0500, Ignoramus25449
wrote:

On 2012-09-20, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:23:33 -0500, Ignoramus25449
wrote:

On 2012-09-19, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Ignoramus25449 fired this volley in
:

Lloyd, so, you are saying that the engine is not worth that much?
Could I get $2k for it?

No, no! That engine is the workhorse motor for trucks in that class, and
for some of the older 80s-early90s Ford 350 dualies. Every U-Haul JH
truck on the road had one for at least 15 years when I was renting them a
lot. It's a great, strong, long-lasting motor.

BUT that mileage sounds Real Low for a truck that age. I'd track down
the original owners and ask if it's always been run Locally 5 miles
out and back, or been Clocked by the dealer - or it just rolled over
100,000 and only has a 5-digit odometer.

I'd bet you'd sell it in a couple of days for $2K in running condition.

LLoyd

This is great! Our plan A would be to see if we can get the truck to
just be a good running truck, easily. If that does not work, which is
most likely, then we will take out and sell the engine with
transmission.

It shouldn't cost much or take much time to replace the master and
wheel cylinders + brake lines. Then you could get $10k(?) for it.
The doors latches might simply need to be lubed to latch correctly.


I was thinking of more like getting $4k for it, not 10k. It is pretty
rusted.

But I will be happy if I can sell the diesel engine+trans for $2k and
scrap the rest for $1k, and sell the wheels for $300.

The rust in the doors is what worries me - the doors might not latch
because the door-posts rusted and the latches or strikes ripped out.

And being an International, finding replacement door posts and
replacement complete doors (swap the inner skins and latches over) can
be done, but they might cost a bit more than you expect. International
has always been good at keeping the pieces available to keep their
gear running - they know if it can't be driven you can't earn money
with it.

If you want to take the time to root out all the rust and section in
repair pieces and paint it, you'll probably get your investment back
in resale value. If you take it to a body shop and pay retail, not so
much.

It came up as SOLD, was that you?

-- Bruce --

Yes, it was me.

I do not like the idea of any deep repairs. If it cannot be brought up
to a decent condition in a couple of days, I will take out the engine
and sell that, sell the tires, and scrap the rest for more than what I paid.

The odometer has six digits.

i

On 2012-09-21, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
"Bruce L. Bergman (munged human readable)"
fired this volley in
:

If you want to take the time to root out all the rust and section in
repair pieces and paint it, you'll probably get your investment back
in resale value. If you take it to a body shop and pay retail, not so
much.

Bruce, he could just scrap it out and get his $500 back!

Lloyd

I would get a lot more than that back.

i

On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:26:45 -0500, Ignoramus32233
wrote:

On 2012-09-21, Bruce L. Bergman (munged human readable) wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:05:41 -0500, Ignoramus25449
wrote:

On 2012-09-20, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:23:33 -0500, Ignoramus25449
wrote:

On 2012-09-19, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Ignoramus25449 fired this volley in
:

Lloyd, so, you are saying that the engine is not worth that much?
Could I get $2k for it?

No, no! That engine is the workhorse motor for trucks in that class, and
for some of the older 80s-early90s Ford 350 dualies. Every U-Haul JH
truck on the road had one for at least 15 years when I was renting them a
lot. It's a great, strong, long-lasting motor.

BUT that mileage sounds Real Low for a truck that age. I'd track down
the original owners and ask if it's always been run Locally 5 miles
out and back, or been Clocked by the dealer - or it just rolled over
100,000 and only has a 5-digit odometer.

I'd bet you'd sell it in a couple of days for $2K in running condition.

LLoyd

This is great! Our plan A would be to see if we can get the truck to
just be a good running truck, easily. If that does not work, which is
most likely, then we will take out and sell the engine with
transmission.

It shouldn't cost much or take much time to replace the master and
wheel cylinders + brake lines. Then you could get $10k(?) for it.
The doors latches might simply need to be lubed to latch correctly.


I was thinking of more like getting $4k for it, not 10k. It is pretty
rusted.

But I will be happy if I can sell the diesel engine+trans for $2k and
scrap the rest for $1k, and sell the wheels for $300.

The rust in the doors is what worries me - the doors might not latch
because the door-posts rusted and the latches or strikes ripped out.

And being an International, finding replacement door posts and
replacement complete doors (swap the inner skins and latches over) can
be done, but they might cost a bit more than you expect. International
has always been good at keeping the pieces available to keep their
gear running - they know if it can't be driven you can't earn money
with it.

If you want to take the time to root out all the rust and section in
repair pieces and paint it, you'll probably get your investment back
in resale value. If you take it to a body shop and pay retail, not so
much.

It came up as SOLD, was that you?

-- Bruce --

Yes, it was me.

I do not like the idea of any deep repairs. If it cannot be brought up
to a decent condition in a couple of days, I will take out the engine
and sell that, sell the tires, and scrap the rest for more than what I paid.

The odometer has six digits.

Before you decide how "deep" the repairs are, consider that some
people won't even try - and they took a severe haircut selling you
that truck that cheap.

Tear the seats and floor-mats out and really look at the shape the
body is in, and research the availability of repair panels from
Navistar before you decide to scrap it. It might not be that bad.

And consider that replacing the sheetmetal in the cab is NOT all that
complex - the hard part is drilling out the old welds, and using a MIG
Gun to make a row of "puddle welds" to simulate a large Spot Welder.

Unless you actually HAVE a large spot-welder and a set of hand-held
tongs for it. Something like:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NICE-CONRAC-...item4841e8baae
Then you can zap it back together in a big hurry.

The trick is to brace the roof before you try taking out the B Pillar
and fix it before moving on to another area.

Measure before and after repairs to make sure nothing sagged - You
might even have to jack the roof up a skosh and undo some existing sag
if the rust in the pillar was real bad and it was driven...

And do a good job priming and painting.

The brake lines and hoses could also be Dumbth - they took it apart
and couldn't get it back together again. Someone that understands air
brakes should have no problems with it. Or they tried doing something
custom like adding on Trailer Air Brake hookups and got stuck.

-- Bruce --

On 2012-09-23, Bruce L. Bergman (munged human readable) wrote:

The brake lines and hoses could also be Dumbth - they took it apart
and couldn't get it back together again. Someone that understands air
brakes should have no problems with it. Or they tried doing something
custom like adding on Trailer Air Brake hookups and got stuck.


Bruce, I will let you know when I get it, I am very curious myself.

i