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I want to spin a nylon shaft in a plain bearing/bushing at low rpm. Is
the choice of bushing material critical? Will brass or copper do?

As a matter of general principle should the shaft and bushing be made
of different material? What would happen (for argument's sake) if one
spun a brass shaft in a copper bushing?

Thanks,

Michael Koblic,
Campbell River, BC
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On Aug 28, 8:18*pm, wrote:
I want to spin a nylon shaft in a plain bearing/bushing at low rpm. Is
the choice of bushing material critical? Will brass or copper do?

As a matter of general principle should the shaft and bushing be made
of different material? What would happen (for argument's sake) if one
spun a brass shaft in a copper bushing?

Thanks,

Michael Koblic,
Campbell River, BC


Sorry for the screwy units, but ............bearing material is rated
by PV . The P is psi and the V is surface feet per minute. Nylon is
good for about 3500. So calculate what the PV is. Assuming that it is
below 3500 then most any usual bearing material will do. UHMW poly is
3000 and is the only material listed in the MSC catalog as a bearing
material that is lower than nylon. It does not list copper or brass
but cast bronze is listed as 75,000. So I am pretty sure copper and
brass are way above the nylon shaft.


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As a matter of general principle should the shaft and bushing be made
of different material? What would happen (for argument's sake) if one
spun a brass shaft in a copper bushing?


Michael,

As a general rule of thumb, same-metal contact under pressure and motion
will cause galling; the softer, the worse. Copper on copper would be a
very bad bearing selections, because not only is the metal the same, it's
soft.

Steel on copper works. Brass is a good bit harder than copper, but
contains enough copper that I think it would smear off particles and
gall.

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I want to spin a nylon shaft in a plain bearing/bushing at low rpm. Is
the choice of bushing material critical? Will brass or copper do?

As a matter of general principle should the shaft and bushing be made
of different material? What would happen (for argument's sake) if one
spun a brass shaft in a copper bushing?

Thanks,

Michael Koblic,
Campbell River, BC


As a general principle, you want one material to be smooth and hard, and the
other to be softer (but still hard enough not to deform with the pressure
applied to the bearing surfaces). If both materials in a bushing have
similar hardness or chemical affinity, you can get galling. Nylon will work
as a bushing with most metals (unless it is glass-filled). When using nylon
as a bearing material, watch out for excessive loads that deform the
plastic, high temperatures, acids, and water absorption that makes nylon
expand.

However, if the pressure on the bushing is low and the RPMs are low, you
might be able to get away with similar materials if lubricated.



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I want to spin a nylon shaft in a plain bearing/bushing at low rpm. Is
the choice of bushing material critical? Will brass or copper do?

As a matter of general principle should the shaft and bushing be made
of different material? What would happen (for argument's sake) if one
spun a brass shaft in a copper bushing?

Thanks,

Michael Koblic,
Campbell River, BC


As a general principle, you want one material to be smooth and hard, and the
other to be softer (but still hard enough not to deform with the pressure
applied to the bearing surfaces). If both materials in a bushing have
similar hardness or chemical affinity, you can get galling. Nylon will work
as a bushing with most metals (unless it is glass-filled). When using nylon
as a bearing material, watch out for excessive loads that deform the
plastic, high temperatures, acids, and water absorption that makes nylon
expand.

However, if the pressure on the bushing is low and the RPMs are low, you
might be able to get away with similar materials if lubricated.


OK, thanks. The loads on this will be minimal. Did not know about
nylon absorbing water.

Michael Koblic,
Campbell River, BC
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