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I got about three gallons of mixed gas and oil in my boat tank. It is old.
OLD! I need to dispose of it. Any suggestions? I can't burn it slowly in a gas engine, as I have a diesel, and SWMBO has a TBird that takes high octane gas. All my other gas engines would take forever to burn three gallons. Where can I dispose of it? Maybe build a burner, and just let it burn for a few days? In my neck of the woods, burning is banned because of recent multi million dollar wildfires. Steve |
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:37:56 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote: I got about three gallons of mixed gas and oil in my boat tank. It is old. OLD! I need to dispose of it. Any suggestions? I can't burn it slowly in a gas engine, as I have a diesel, and SWMBO has a TBird that takes high octane gas. All my other gas engines would take forever to burn three gallons. Where can I dispose of it? Maybe build a burner, and just let it burn for a few days? In my neck of the woods, burning is banned because of recent multi million dollar wildfires. Steve Here, we have "household hazardous waste facility" to handle stuff like this for residents of the city. They figure it is better this way than have people use their own methods. --- Gerry :-)} London,Canada |
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"Steve B" on Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:37:56 -0700 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: I got about three gallons of mixed gas and oil in my boat tank. It is old. OLD! I need to dispose of it. Any suggestions? I can't burn it slowly in a gas engine, as I have a diesel, and SWMBO has a TBird that takes high octane gas. All my other gas engines would take forever to burn three gallons. Where can I dispose of it? Maybe build a burner, and just let it burn for a few days? In my neck of the woods, burning is banned because of recent multi million dollar wildfires. A) wait till winter/wetter weather. Burn all you want, then. (I used to dispose of used oil starting bonfires on the beach.) B) see if your locality has a "hazmat disposal day" for such things. C) put it in an open bucket and let it evaporate. D) "oil" your driveway, Or boat shed. Use it to kill weeds. -- pyotr Go not to the Net for answers, for it will tell you Yes and no. And you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers does it take to change a lightbulb. |
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On Jul 17, 10:37*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
I got about three gallons of mixed gas and oil in my boat tank. *It is old. OLD! *I need to dispose of it. *Any suggestions? *I can't burn it slowly in a gas engine, as I have a diesel, and SWMBO has a TBird that takes high octane gas. *All my other gas engines would take forever to burn three gallons. *Where can I dispose of it? *Maybe build a burner, and just let it burn for a few days? *In my neck of the woods, burning is banned because of recent multi million dollar wildfires. Steve Craigslist has a "Free" section. Someone will come get it. |
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On 7/17/2012 8:37 PM, Steve B wrote:
I got about three gallons of mixed gas and oil in my boat tank. It is old. OLD! I need to dispose of it. Any suggestions? I can't burn it slowly in a gas engine, as I have a diesel, and SWMBO has a TBird that takes high octane gas. All my other gas engines would take forever to burn three gallons. Where can I dispose of it? Maybe build a burner, and just let it burn for a few days? In my neck of the woods, burning is banned because of recent multi million dollar wildfires. Steve Just pour it into an oil change pan and set it out in the sun. Paul |
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"Paul Drahn" wrote in message ... On 7/17/2012 8:37 PM, Steve B wrote: I got about three gallons of mixed gas and oil in my boat tank. It is old. OLD! I need to dispose of it. Any suggestions? I can't burn it slowly in a gas engine, as I have a diesel, and SWMBO has a TBird that takes high octane gas. All my other gas engines would take forever to burn three gallons. Where can I dispose of it? Maybe build a burner, and just let it burn for a few days? In my neck of the woods, burning is banned because of recent multi million dollar wildfires. Steve Just pour it into an oil change pan and set it out in the sun. Paul Dang fine idea, Paul. Steve |
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On 2012-07-18, Steve B wrote:
I got about three gallons of mixed gas and oil in my boat tank. It is old. OLD! I need to dispose of it. Any suggestions? I can't burn it slowly in a gas engine, as I have a diesel, and SWMBO has a TBird that takes high octane gas. All my other gas engines would take forever to burn three gallons. Where can I dispose of it? Maybe build a burner, and just let it burn for a few days? In my neck of the woods, burning is banned because of recent multi million dollar wildfires. Steve Near me, they have a fire station that accepts household wastes like this on Sundays. It is free. i |
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"Steve B" wrote in message ... I got about three gallons of mixed gas and oil in my boat tank. It is old. OLD! I need to dispose of it. Any suggestions? I can't burn it slowly in a gas engine, as I have a diesel, and SWMBO has a TBird that takes high octane gas. All my other gas engines would take forever to burn three gallons. Where can I dispose of it? Maybe build a burner, and just let it burn for a few days? In my neck of the woods, burning is banned because of recent multi million dollar wildfires. You are a ****ing idiot.. |
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"PrecisionmachinisT" "Steve B" I got about three gallons of mixed gas and oil in my boat tank. It is old. OLD! I need to dispose of it. Any suggestions? I can't burn it slowly in a gas engine, as I have a diesel, and SWMBO has a TBird that takes high octane gas. All my other gas engines would take forever to burn three gallons. Where can I dispose of it? Maybe build a burner, and just let it burn for a few days? In my neck of the woods, burning is banned because of recent multi million dollar wildfires. You are a ****ing idiot.. And you, hacksaw machinist, are a ****ing jackass! |
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"Ignoramus21660" wrote in message ... On 2012-07-18, Erik wrote: In article , wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:37:56 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: I got about three gallons of mixed gas and oil in my boat tank. It is old. OLD! I need to dispose of it. Any suggestions? I can't burn it slowly in a gas engine, as I have a diesel, and SWMBO has a TBird that takes high octane gas. All my other gas engines would take forever to burn three gallons. Where can I dispose of it? Maybe build a burner, and just let it burn for a few days? In my neck of the woods, burning is banned because of recent multi million dollar wildfires. Steve Here, we have "household hazardous waste facility" to handle stuff like this for residents of the city. They figure it is better this way than have people use their own methods. --- Gerry :-)} London,Canada Good suggestion. Having said that, personally I wouldn't hesitate to add a gallon at a time into the ford product (only add to nearly full tankfuls [1]) . But thats just me; YMMV. I burn all old gas in my pick-up truck. I add it to new fuel, I try not to make it more than 30% of the mix. i This is mixed outboard fuel. Oil and gas mixed. Steve |
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:21:34 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote: "Ignoramus21660" wrote in message m... On 2012-07-18, Erik wrote: In article , wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:37:56 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: I got about three gallons of mixed gas and oil in my boat tank. It is old. OLD! I need to dispose of it. Any suggestions? I can't burn it slowly in a gas engine, as I have a diesel, and SWMBO has a TBird that takes high octane gas. All my other gas engines would take forever to burn three gallons. Where can I dispose of it? Maybe build a burner, and just let it burn for a few days? In my neck of the woods, burning is banned because of recent multi million dollar wildfires. Steve Here, we have "household hazardous waste facility" to handle stuff like this for residents of the city. They figure it is better this way than have people use their own methods. --- Gerry :-)} London,Canada Good suggestion. Having said that, personally I wouldn't hesitate to add a gallon at a time into the ford product (only add to nearly full tankfuls [1]) . But thats just me; YMMV. I burn all old gas in my pick-up truck. I add it to new fuel, I try not to make it more than 30% of the mix. i This is mixed outboard fuel. Oil and gas mixed. Well then, is there any rush? I'd get a separate gas can or drum to keep it isolated in, and do the mix-in method on one of the gasoline engine devices in Very Small Quantities because of the added oil, say under 5% at a time. And run it through a ultra-fine fuel filter water separator cartridge filter first. The kind you use on boats. Not cheap, but you can keep using it for several years, put it on the Transfer Pump outlet. -- Bruce -- |
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On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 08:23:56 -0700, Paul Drahn
wrote: On 7/17/2012 8:37 PM, Steve B wrote: I got about three gallons of mixed gas and oil in my boat tank. It is old. OLD! I need to dispose of it. Any suggestions? I can't burn it slowly in a gas engine, as I have a diesel, and SWMBO has a TBird that takes high octane gas. All my other gas engines would take forever to burn three gallons. Where can I dispose of it? Maybe build a burner, and just let it burn for a few days? In my neck of the woods, burning is banned because of recent multi million dollar wildfires. Steve Just pour it into an oil change pan and set it out in the sun. Paul You can also bend and weld up a 4X4 burn pan out of 1/8" Plate and invite the neighbors over to practice Fire Extinguisher techniques. There is nothing that builds confidence more than actually doing it - then they'll know what to expect when the real thing happens, rather than just run away and watch the house burn down. Be sure to have them bring whatever they have around the house to the practice round. Someone will bring a few crappy Plastic Head Kidde's, I'm sure you'll try to blow them off and find at least one dud that doesn't work in the pile. Let that be a lesson that you can't buy crap if it has to work in an emergency. Get a pile of business cards from a local Extinguisher Shop, and work out a nice price for Amerex 417's (or other quality units) for cars, and 500's or bigger for house and garage. $35 2.5# extinguisher, $20,000 car - a few $40 5# extinguishers, a $1M house - both seem like a no-brainer to me... And when everyone's had their turn and there's still gasoline left... |
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Donate it to a friend, who's got an older gasoline vehicle.
Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "BruceSPAMBLOCK L.NOSPAM. BergmanINVALID (munged human readable)" wrote in message ... This is mixed outboard fuel. Oil and gas mixed. Well then, is there any rush? I'd get a separate gas can or drum to keep it isolated in, and do the mix-in method on one of the gasoline engine devices in Very Small Quantities because of the added oil, say under 5% at a time. And run it through a ultra-fine fuel filter water separator cartridge filter first. The kind you use on boats. Not cheap, but you can keep using it for several years, put it on the Transfer Pump outlet. -- Bruce -- |
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The local (to you) FD may take the gas mix, for just this reason.
Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "BruSPAMce L. BergmanDELETE (munged human readable)" wrote in message news You can also bend and weld up a 4X4 burn pan out of 1/8" Plate and invite the neighbors over to practice Fire Extinguisher techniques. There is nothing that builds confidence more than actually doing it - then they'll know what to expect when the real thing happens, rather than just run away and watch the house burn down. Be sure to have them bring whatever they have around the house to the practice round. Someone will bring a few crappy Plastic Head Kidde's, I'm sure you'll try to blow them off and find at least one dud that doesn't work in the pile. Let that be a lesson that you can't buy crap if it has to work in an emergency. Get a pile of business cards from a local Extinguisher Shop, and work out a nice price for Amerex 417's (or other quality units) for cars, and 500's or bigger for house and garage. $35 2.5# extinguisher, $20,000 car - a few $40 5# extinguishers, a $1M house - both seem like a no-brainer to me... And when everyone's had their turn and there's still gasoline left... |
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"Phil Kangas" wrote in message ... "PrecisionmachinisT" "Steve B" I got about three gallons of mixed gas and oil in my boat tank. It is old. OLD! I need to dispose of it. Any suggestions? I can't burn it slowly in a gas engine, as I have a diesel, and SWMBO has a TBird that takes high octane gas. All my other gas engines would take forever to burn three gallons. Where can I dispose of it? Maybe build a burner, and just let it burn for a few days? In my neck of the woods, burning is banned because of recent multi million dollar wildfires. You are a ****ing idiot.. And you, hacksaw machinist, are a ****ing jackass! Eat **** and die, TROLL... |
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:21:34 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote: "Ignoramus21660" wrote in message m... On 2012-07-18, Erik wrote: In article , wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:37:56 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: I got about three gallons of mixed gas and oil in my boat tank. It is old. OLD! I need to dispose of it. Any suggestions? I can't burn it slowly in a gas engine, as I have a diesel, and SWMBO has a TBird that takes high octane gas. All my other gas engines would take forever to burn three gallons. Where can I dispose of it? Maybe build a burner, and just let it burn for a few days? In my neck of the woods, burning is banned because of recent multi million dollar wildfires. Steve Here, we have "household hazardous waste facility" to handle stuff like this for residents of the city. They figure it is better this way than have people use their own methods. --- Gerry :-)} London,Canada Good suggestion. Having said that, personally I wouldn't hesitate to add a gallon at a time into the ford product (only add to nearly full tankfuls [1]) . But thats just me; YMMV. I burn all old gas in my pick-up truck. I add it to new fuel, I try not to make it more than 30% of the mix. i This is mixed outboard fuel. Oil and gas mixed. Steve How much oil? At the usual 50::1 it will amount to less then a cup of oil. It will burn and 3 gallons in a full tank of "new gas" won't even be noticeable. I used to get rid of old outboard gas that way and couldn't tell the difference between a few gallons of outboard gas in a full tank and a tank full without the outboard gas. Cheers, John B. |
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"John B." wrote in message ... On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:21:34 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: "Ignoramus21660" wrote in message om... On 2012-07-18, Erik wrote: In article , wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:37:56 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: I got about three gallons of mixed gas and oil in my boat tank. It is old. OLD! I need to dispose of it. Any suggestions? I can't burn it slowly in a gas engine, as I have a diesel, and SWMBO has a TBird that takes high octane gas. All my other gas engines would take forever to burn three gallons. Where can I dispose of it? Maybe build a burner, and just let it burn for a few days? In my neck of the woods, burning is banned because of recent multi million dollar wildfires. Steve Here, we have "household hazardous waste facility" to handle stuff like this for residents of the city. They figure it is better this way than have people use their own methods. --- Gerry :-)} London,Canada Good suggestion. Having said that, personally I wouldn't hesitate to add a gallon at a time into the ford product (only add to nearly full tankfuls [1]) . But thats just me; YMMV. I burn all old gas in my pick-up truck. I add it to new fuel, I try not to make it more than 30% of the mix. i This is mixed outboard fuel. Oil and gas mixed. Steve How much oil? At the usual 50::1 it will amount to less then a cup of oil. It will burn and 3 gallons in a full tank of "new gas" won't even be noticeable. I used to get rid of old outboard gas that way and couldn't tell the difference between a few gallons of outboard gas in a full tank and a tank full without the outboard gas. Cheers, John B. It looked fine to me, but smelled "varnishy". So, I just put it in a shallow pan out in the lower forty, and left it there. Steve |
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"Bruce L. Bergman (munged human readable)" wrote in message news On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 08:23:56 -0700, Paul Drahn wrote: On 7/17/2012 8:37 PM, Steve B wrote: I got about three gallons of mixed gas and oil in my boat tank. It is old. OLD! I need to dispose of it. Any suggestions? I can't burn it slowly in a gas engine, as I have a diesel, and SWMBO has a TBird that takes high octane gas. All my other gas engines would take forever to burn three gallons. Where can I dispose of it? Maybe build a burner, and just let it burn for a few days? In my neck of the woods, burning is banned because of recent multi million dollar wildfires. Steve Just pour it into an oil change pan and set it out in the sun. Paul You can also bend and weld up a 4X4 burn pan out of 1/8" Plate and invite the neighbors over to practice Fire Extinguisher techniques. There is nothing that builds confidence more than actually doing it - then they'll know what to expect when the real thing happens, rather than just run away and watch the house burn down. Be sure to have them bring whatever they have around the house to the practice round. Someone will bring a few crappy Plastic Head Kidde's, I'm sure you'll try to blow them off and find at least one dud that doesn't work in the pile. Let that be a lesson that you can't buy crap if it has to work in an emergency. Get a pile of business cards from a local Extinguisher Shop, and work out a nice price for Amerex 417's (or other quality units) for cars, and 500's or bigger for house and garage. $35 2.5# extinguisher, $20,000 car - a few $40 5# extinguishers, a $1M house - both seem like a no-brainer to me... And when everyone's had their turn and there's still gasoline left... We have had a bad spate of wildfires here in Utah, one very near my house. I doubt that any open burning would be welcomed. I was being very careful yesterday when I did a smoked turkey and pork shoulder roast, expecting the local Brown Shirts to report me. But all went well. I doubt that we will be allowed to open burn before September, maybe October. Steve |
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 20:43:14 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote: "John B." wrote in message .. . On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:21:34 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: "Ignoramus21660" wrote in message news:IpudneOyRriujZrNnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@giganews. com... On 2012-07-18, Erik wrote: In article , wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:37:56 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: I got about three gallons of mixed gas and oil in my boat tank. It is old. OLD! I need to dispose of it. Any suggestions? I can't burn it slowly in a gas engine, as I have a diesel, and SWMBO has a TBird that takes high octane gas. All my other gas engines would take forever to burn three gallons. Where can I dispose of it? Maybe build a burner, and just let it burn for a few days? In my neck of the woods, burning is banned because of recent multi million dollar wildfires. Steve Here, we have "household hazardous waste facility" to handle stuff like this for residents of the city. They figure it is better this way than have people use their own methods. --- Gerry :-)} London,Canada Good suggestion. Having said that, personally I wouldn't hesitate to add a gallon at a time into the ford product (only add to nearly full tankfuls [1]) . But thats just me; YMMV. I burn all old gas in my pick-up truck. I add it to new fuel, I try not to make it more than 30% of the mix. i This is mixed outboard fuel. Oil and gas mixed. Steve How much oil? At the usual 50::1 it will amount to less then a cup of oil. It will burn and 3 gallons in a full tank of "new gas" won't even be noticeable. I used to get rid of old outboard gas that way and couldn't tell the difference between a few gallons of outboard gas in a full tank and a tank full without the outboard gas. Cheers, John B. It looked fine to me, but smelled "varnishy". So, I just put it in a shallow pan out in the lower forty, and left it there. Steve That will get rid of it. If you hadn't dumped the oil in it you could have used it to wash parts :-) Cheers, John B. |
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Gee, you like global warming, don't you? All those chemicals in the
stratosphere? Gasoline as parts washer? Bad idea, you might have gotten some grease and oil into the gasoline. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "John B." wrote in message ... It looked fine to me, but smelled "varnishy". So, I just put it in a shallow pan out in the lower forty, and left it there. That will get rid of it. If you hadn't dumped the oil in it you could have used it to wash parts :-) Cheers, John B. |
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On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:27:50 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: Gee, you like global warming, don't you? All those chemicals in the stratosphere? Are you really sure that evaporating 3 gallons of gasoline is going to melt the Greenland Ice Cap? Gasoline as parts washer? Bad idea, you might have gotten some grease and oil into the gasoline. Since when? Gasoline has been used to wash parts for generations. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . "John B." wrote in message .. . It looked fine to me, but smelled "varnishy". So, I just put it in a shallow pan out in the lower forty, and left it there. That will get rid of it. If you hadn't dumped the oil in it you could have used it to wash parts :-) Cheers, John B. Cheers, John B. |
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On 7/20/2012 10:20 PM, John B. wrote:
Since when? Gasoline has been used to wash parts for generations. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . The stuff sold today as "gasoline" is NOT the same stuff used for generations. |
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"John B." wrote in message ... On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 20:43:14 -0700, "Steve B" snip If you hadn't dumped the oil in it you could have used it to wash parts :-) Cheers, John B. You're joking, right? Harold |
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Gee, you like global warming, don't you? All those chemicals in the stratosphere? Are you really sure that evaporating 3 gallons of gasoline is going to melt the Greenland Ice Cap? CY: Happened last night. Didn't you see the news? Gasoline as parts washer? Bad idea, you might have gotten some grease and oil into the gasoline. Since when? Gasoline has been used to wash parts for generations. CY: He's supposed to write back "silly, it's just going to get MORE oil in it...." If you hadn't dumped the oil in it you could have used it to wash parts :-) Cheers, John B. Cheers, John B. |
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On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 22:30:09 -0500, Richard
wrote: On 7/20/2012 10:20 PM, John B. wrote: Since when? Gasoline has been used to wash parts for generations. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . The stuff sold today as "gasoline" is NOT the same stuff used for generations. The last time I tried it still washed parts pretty well :-) But the damned stuff is getting too expensive to wash parts with. Cheers, John B. |
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If you hadn't dumped the oil in it you could have used it to wash parts :-) Cheers, John B. And those would be the parts from the two cycle four cylinder motor that I would have burned up with straight gas, right? Steve ;-) |
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 07:30:39 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote: If you hadn't dumped the oil in it you could have used it to wash parts :-) Cheers, John B. And those would be the parts from the two cycle four cylinder motor that I would have burned up with straight gas, right? Steve ;-) Any parts you want to wash - back in my Air Force days we used to wash oil stained coveralls in 115/145 and hang them to dry on the propeller blades. Got them really clean too, but we stopped after one of the crew got some sort of virulent crotch rot and the Medics told us that some people are allergic to avgas :-( Cheers, John B. |
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THe local tractor and mower shop states that we should use
Premium gas in the mowers (riding and 54" ...) other tractors due to the junk and trash and OH corn stuff and whatnot in the lower two grades. The Alcohol absorbs moisture and will pit out fuel systems in various trimmer / saw / small engines. Martin On 7/20/2012 10:30 PM, Richard wrote: On 7/20/2012 10:20 PM, John B. wrote: Since when? Gasoline has been used to wash parts for generations. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . The stuff sold today as "gasoline" is NOT the same stuff used for generations. |
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Martin Eastburn wrote: THe local tractor and mower shop states that we should use Premium gas in the mowers (riding and 54" ...) other tractors due to the junk and trash and OH corn stuff and whatnot in the lower two grades. The Alcohol absorbs moisture and will pit out fuel systems in various trimmer / saw / small engines. Martin On 7/20/2012 10:30 PM, Richard wrote: On 7/20/2012 10:20 PM, John B. wrote: Since when? Gasoline has been used to wash parts for generations. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . The stuff sold today as "gasoline" is NOT the same stuff used for generations. It greatly accelerates rubber deterioration as well. Avoid "E" anything fuels at all costs... but sadly, you probably don't have a choice anymore. Erik |
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