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Saw a scary scene today
I was at a closed down factory today. The factory was bought out by a
scrapper. I bought some ironworkers, angle cutters, hoists and such from him. One thing that I bought was a 7.5 ton bridge crane (lifting and runners only, no I-beams). The crane was about 80 feet wide and they were removing a huge I-beam that made up the bridge itself. They were supporting it in the middle with a telehandler. One side was already cut with oxygen. The worker was cutting another side, standing on a scissor lift. When the final cut made through, the beam heaved, rolled off the forks and fell on the scissor lift. And may I mention that it was a lot larger than the lift. Fortunately, it did not fall all the way, it was caught by a chain from the top of the telehandler boom, and so it rested on top of the scissor lift. The scissor lift almost toppled and the guy in it would, no doubt, be in big trouble. After this all ended, he was laughing hysterically, though it did not seem funny to me. i |
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Ignoramus21436 wrote: I was at a closed down factory today. The factory was bought out by a scrapper. I bought some ironworkers, angle cutters, hoists and such from him. One thing that I bought was a 7.5 ton bridge crane (lifting and runners only, no I-beams). The crane was about 80 feet wide and they were removing a huge I-beam that made up the bridge itself. They were supporting it in the middle with a telehandler. One side was already cut with oxygen. The worker was cutting another side, standing on a scissor lift. When the final cut made through, the beam heaved, rolled off the forks and fell on the scissor lift. And may I mention that it was a lot larger than the lift. Fortunately, it did not fall all the way, it was caught by a chain from the top of the telehandler boom, and so it rested on top of the scissor lift. The scissor lift almost toppled and the guy in it would, no doubt, be in big trouble. After this all ended, he was laughing hysterically, though it did not seem funny to me. i Some people lack rigging sense and each time they somehow survive their carelessness it just reinforces the carelessness. Eventually it catches up with them and they go splat, hopefully without any civilian casualties. |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:23:40 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote: Ignoramus21436 wrote: I was at a closed down factory today. The factory was bought out by a scrapper. I bought some ironworkers, angle cutters, hoists and such from him. One thing that I bought was a 7.5 ton bridge crane (lifting and runners only, no I-beams). The crane was about 80 feet wide and they were removing a huge I-beam that made up the bridge itself. They were supporting it in the middle with a telehandler. One side was already cut with oxygen. The worker was cutting another side, standing on a scissor lift. When the final cut made through, the beam heaved, rolled off the forks and fell on the scissor lift. And may I mention that it was a lot larger than the lift. Fortunately, it did not fall all the way, it was caught by a chain from the top of the telehandler boom, and so it rested on top of the scissor lift. The scissor lift almost toppled and the guy in it would, no doubt, be in big trouble. After this all ended, he was laughing hysterically, though it did not seem funny to me. i Some people lack rigging sense and each time they somehow survive their carelessness it just reinforces the carelessness. Eventually it catches up with them and they go splat, hopefully without any civilian casualties. Yep, its easy to cheat death. Trouble is, death only has to win once. |
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On 2012-07-12, Karl Townsend wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:23:40 -0500, "Pete C." wrote: Ignoramus21436 wrote: I was at a closed down factory today. The factory was bought out by a scrapper. I bought some ironworkers, angle cutters, hoists and such from him. One thing that I bought was a 7.5 ton bridge crane (lifting and runners only, no I-beams). The crane was about 80 feet wide and they were removing a huge I-beam that made up the bridge itself. They were supporting it in the middle with a telehandler. One side was already cut with oxygen. The worker was cutting another side, standing on a scissor lift. When the final cut made through, the beam heaved, rolled off the forks and fell on the scissor lift. And may I mention that it was a lot larger than the lift. Fortunately, it did not fall all the way, it was caught by a chain from the top of the telehandler boom, and so it rested on top of the scissor lift. The scissor lift almost toppled and the guy in it would, no doubt, be in big trouble. After this all ended, he was laughing hysterically, though it did not seem funny to me. i Some people lack rigging sense and each time they somehow survive their carelessness it just reinforces the carelessness. Eventually it catches up with them and they go splat, hopefully without any civilian casualties. Yep, its easy to cheat death. Trouble is, death only has to win once. If I may play a devil's advicate for a minute, I must say that this sort of stuff is naturally a very dangerous business. Doing that work properly would necessitate bringing in two telehandlers instead of one, which is, alas, very expensive. I am not advocating any unsafe things, but I am saying that this is a naturally very dangerous job that is not easy to make safe. i |
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If I may play a devil's advicate for a minute, I must say that this sort of stuff is naturally a very dangerous business. Doing that work properly would necessitate bringing in two telehandlers instead of one, which is, alas, very expensive. I am not advocating any unsafe things, but I am saying that this is a naturally very dangerous job that is not easy to make safe. i Yep, I'm rigger for a day tommorrow. bet us part timers without good equipment have even more accidents. The road trip starts at 0500 getting the kid his first CNC mill. Karl |
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Karl Townsend wrote:
Yep, I'm rigger for a day tommorrow. bet us part timers without good equipment have even more accidents. The road trip starts at 0500 getting the kid his first CNC mill. Well, they can be top-heavy, just make sure you keep it level and don't raise any higher than you have to. I've moved my Bridgeport twice with no oopses. Jon |
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 23:15:47 -0500, Ignoramus21436
wrote: I was at a closed down factory today. The factory was bought out by a scrapper. I bought some ironworkers, angle cutters, hoists and such from him. One thing that I bought was a 7.5 ton bridge crane (lifting and runners only, no I-beams). The crane was about 80 feet wide and they were removing a huge I-beam that made up the bridge itself. They were supporting it in the middle with a telehandler. One side was already cut with oxygen. The worker was cutting another side, standing on a scissor lift. When the final cut made through, the beam heaved, rolled off the forks and fell on the scissor lift. And may I mention that it was a lot larger than the lift. Fortunately, it did not fall all the way, it was caught by a chain from the top of the telehandler boom, and so it rested on top of the scissor lift. The scissor lift almost toppled and the guy in it would, no doubt, be in big trouble. After this all ended, he was laughing hysterically, though it did not seem funny to me. _Not_ an OSHA-controlled dismantling operation, I see. =:0 -- [Television is] the triumph of machine over people. -- Fred Allen |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 06:39:37 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 23:15:47 -0500, Ignoramus21436 wrote: I was at a closed down factory today. The factory was bought out by a scrapper. I bought some ironworkers, angle cutters, hoists and such from him. One thing that I bought was a 7.5 ton bridge crane (lifting and runners only, no I-beams). The crane was about 80 feet wide and they were removing a huge I-beam that made up the bridge itself. They were supporting it in the middle with a telehandler. One side was already cut with oxygen. The worker was cutting another side, standing on a scissor lift. When the final cut made through, the beam heaved, rolled off the forks and fell on the scissor lift. And may I mention that it was a lot larger than the lift. Fortunately, it did not fall all the way, it was caught by a chain from the top of the telehandler boom, and so it rested on top of the scissor lift. The scissor lift almost toppled and the guy in it would, no doubt, be in big trouble. After this all ended, he was laughing hysterically, though it did not seem funny to me. _Not_ an OSHA-controlled dismantling operation, I see. =:0 Someone got lucky when he rolled the Darwin dice. |
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On 2012-07-12, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 23:15:47 -0500, Ignoramus21436 wrote: I was at a closed down factory today. The factory was bought out by a scrapper. I bought some ironworkers, angle cutters, hoists and such from him. One thing that I bought was a 7.5 ton bridge crane (lifting and runners only, no I-beams). The crane was about 80 feet wide and they were removing a huge I-beam that made up the bridge itself. They were supporting it in the middle with a telehandler. One side was already cut with oxygen. The worker was cutting another side, standing on a scissor lift. When the final cut made through, the beam heaved, rolled off the forks and fell on the scissor lift. And may I mention that it was a lot larger than the lift. Fortunately, it did not fall all the way, it was caught by a chain from the top of the telehandler boom, and so it rested on top of the scissor lift. The scissor lift almost toppled and the guy in it would, no doubt, be in big trouble. After this all ended, he was laughing hysterically, though it did not seem funny to me. _Not_ an OSHA-controlled dismantling operation, I see. =:0 It was gypsy controlled. i |
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Saw a scary scene today
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 23:15:47 -0500, Ignoramus21436
wrote: After this all ended, he was laughing hysterically, though it did not seem funny to me. i A friend of mine and myself once did a 360 in a car going 75 MPH. We hit glare ice on an overpass and the car just lost any friction with the pavement whatsoever. Fortunately, this was on a divided highway (so no oncoming traffic) AND we ended up heading in the same direction as we started when we got to the end of the glare ice (so we didn't hit dry pavement going sideways and rollover). We stopped, pulled over onto the shoulder, and began to laugh hysterically. The laughing part was just a release of incredible nervous energy I think....same as your rigger guy who just about got killed. Dave |
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On Jul 11, 11:15*pm, Ignoramus21436 ignoramus21...@NOSPAM.
21436.invalid wrote: I was at a closed down factory today. The factory was bought out by a scrapper. I bought some ironworkers, angle cutters, hoists and such from him. One thing that I bought was a 7.5 ton bridge crane (lifting and runners only, no I-beams). The crane was about 80 feet wide and they were removing a huge I-beam that made up the bridge itself. They were supporting it in the middle with a telehandler. One side was already cut with oxygen. The worker was cutting another side, standing on a scissor lift. When the final cut made through, the beam heaved, rolled off the forks and fell on the scissor lift. And may I mention that it was a lot larger than the lift. Fortunately, it did not fall all the way, it was caught by a chain from the top of the telehandler boom, and so it rested on top of the scissor lift. The scissor lift almost toppled and the guy in it would, no doubt, be in big trouble. After this all ended, he was laughing hysterically, though it did not seem funny to me. i I am glad that no one died. If someone had and you were the proud owner of the item being worked on, would you have been held legally and financially accountable? If so, there goes any profit from the auction. TMT |
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