On the assumption that owing to age and lack of any parts I'll find the
aforementioned Sanborn is beyond hope, I'll throw the floor open for
nominations for a replacement for 5hp, 140 lb-rated 60 gal vertical
tank. More is always better in volume, of course, within reason.

This is primarily farm use intermittent--large tractor/combine tires are
low pressure but very large volumes so that's a major use as well is the
air hose for blowing dirt from radiators, etc., which is also fairly
high. Air tools are probably third on the use list.

As a secondary, I have brought the w-working shop back and sufficient
for air sanders, etc., is also good.

There appears to be no published spec's on the Sanborn other than the 5
hp/140 lb. I found the owner manual in Dad's cache of stuff for what
it's worth (not a lot altho is parts diagram but they're unobtanium it
appears) but it gives no performance spec at all.

It's model 500A60V -- 5.00 hp, A series, 60 gal vertical tank
apparently. In a rarity, the in service date wasn't written on it; Dad
almost always would do that. Manual print date is apparently 1984 which
I'd guess is reasonable for time frame. It's a replacement of the one
which was here when I went away to school and on to work away from the
farm for 30 yrs in '63-68 but I couldn't remember when that one went away...

--

I think you were the fellow who wrote, and had one that over heated? That
being the case, you may save a lot of bucks, and buy just the compressor.
Harbor Fright, or Northern Tools should have such. Might even get one with
similar bolt holes, and make a fairly easy swap out. Seeing as how you have
the tank, motor, belts, etc.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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..

"dpb" wrote in message ...
On the assumption that owing to age and lack of any parts I'll find the
aforementioned Sanborn is beyond hope, I'll throw the floor open for
nominations for a replacement for 5hp, 140 lb-rated 60 gal vertical
tank. More is always better in volume, of course, within reason.

This is primarily farm use intermittent--large tractor/combine tires are
low pressure but very large volumes so that's a major use as well is the
air hose for blowing dirt from radiators, etc., which is also fairly
high. Air tools are probably third on the use list.

As a secondary, I have brought the w-working shop back and sufficient
for air sanders, etc., is also good.

There appears to be no published spec's on the Sanborn other than the 5
hp/140 lb. I found the owner manual in Dad's cache of stuff for what
it's worth (not a lot altho is parts diagram but they're unobtanium it
appears) but it gives no performance spec at all.

It's model 500A60V -- 5.00 hp, A series, 60 gal vertical tank
apparently. In a rarity, the in service date wasn't written on it; Dad
almost always would do that. Manual print date is apparently 1984 which
I'd guess is reasonable for time frame. It's a replacement of the one
which was here when I went away to school and on to work away from the
farm for 30 yrs in '63-68 but I couldn't remember when that one went away...

--

http://www.harborfreight.com/145-psi...ump-67697.html
Only three HP, but they do sell fives. Maybe someone with better google fu
can find the unit you can use.

Some from Northern:
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...mpressor-pumps

If you don't need a lot of recovery speed, a HVAC compressor can be used,
after you change out the mineral oil and put in ND-30.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"dpb" wrote in message ...
On the assumption that owing to age and lack of any parts I'll find the
aforementioned Sanborn is beyond hope, I'll throw the floor open for
nominations for a replacement for 5hp, 140 lb-rated 60 gal vertical
tank. More is always better in volume, of course, within reason.

This is primarily farm use intermittent--large tractor/combine tires are
low pressure but very large volumes so that's a major use as well is the
air hose for blowing dirt from radiators, etc., which is also fairly
high. Air tools are probably third on the use list.

As a secondary, I have brought the w-working shop back and sufficient
for air sanders, etc., is also good.

There appears to be no published spec's on the Sanborn other than the 5
hp/140 lb. I found the owner manual in Dad's cache of stuff for what
it's worth (not a lot altho is parts diagram but they're unobtanium it
appears) but it gives no performance spec at all.

It's model 500A60V -- 5.00 hp, A series, 60 gal vertical tank
apparently. In a rarity, the in service date wasn't written on it; Dad
almost always would do that. Manual print date is apparently 1984 which
I'd guess is reasonable for time frame. It's a replacement of the one
which was here when I went away to school and on to work away from the
farm for 30 yrs in '63-68 but I couldn't remember when that one went away...

--

On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:59:53 -0500, dpb wrote:

On the assumption that owing to age and lack of any parts I'll find the
aforementioned Sanborn is beyond hope, I'll throw the floor open for
nominations for a replacement for 5hp, 140 lb-rated 60 gal vertical
tank. More is always better in volume, of course, within reason.

This is primarily farm use intermittent--large tractor/combine tires are
low pressure but very large volumes so that's a major use as well is the
air hose for blowing dirt from radiators, etc., which is also fairly
high. Air tools are probably third on the use list.

As a secondary, I have brought the w-working shop back and sufficient
for air sanders, etc., is also good.

There appears to be no published spec's on the Sanborn other than the 5
hp/140 lb. I found the owner manual in Dad's cache of stuff for what
it's worth (not a lot altho is parts diagram but they're unobtanium it
appears) but it gives no performance spec at all.

It's model 500A60V -- 5.00 hp, A series, 60 gal vertical tank
apparently. In a rarity, the in service date wasn't written on it; Dad
almost always would do that. Manual print date is apparently 1984 which
I'd guess is reasonable for time frame. It's a replacement of the one
which was here when I went away to school and on to work away from the
farm for 30 yrs in '63-68 but I couldn't remember when that one went away...

IF you only need a compressor, this one is $200 (plus shipping), rated
at 3CFM, max of 140psi, and requires 3/4HP to drive it.
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.as...-1470&catname=

Surplus Center has lots of motors, compressors, and pumps.

On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:59:53 -0500, dpb wrote:

On the assumption that owing to age and lack of any parts I'll find the
aforementioned Sanborn is beyond hope, I'll throw the floor open for
nominations for a replacement for 5hp, 140 lb-rated 60 gal vertical
tank. More is always better in volume, of course, within reason.

This is primarily farm use intermittent--large tractor/combine tires are
low pressure but very large volumes so that's a major use as well is the
air hose for blowing dirt from radiators, etc., which is also fairly
high. Air tools are probably third on the use list.

As a secondary, I have brought the w-working shop back and sufficient
for air sanders, etc., is also good.

There appears to be no published spec's on the Sanborn other than the 5
hp/140 lb. I found the owner manual in Dad's cache of stuff for what
it's worth (not a lot altho is parts diagram but they're unobtanium it
appears) but it gives no performance spec at all.

It's model 500A60V -- 5.00 hp, A series, 60 gal vertical tank
apparently. In a rarity, the in service date wasn't written on it; Dad
almost always would do that. Manual print date is apparently 1984 which
I'd guess is reasonable for time frame. It's a replacement of the one
which was here when I went away to school and on to work away from the
farm for 30 yrs in '63-68 but I couldn't remember when that one went away...

I suggest you shop around for a used quincy. if your father had bought
that in 1963, it would just now be broke in.

The air pump can be had for reasonable. if you're in a hurry, might
look at eBay or ask Iggy on this NG. He seems to always have one
around.

Karl

Karl Townsend fired this volley in
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The air pump can be had for reasonable.

These won't be in until July, but have good reviews:

http://www.eatoncompressor.com/catal...643/547020.htm


Lloyd

On 6/6/2012 4:21 PM, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
Karl fired this volley in
:

The air pump can be had for reasonable.

These won't be in until July, but have good reviews:

http://www.eatoncompressor.com/catal...643/547020.htm

That's interesting, indeed...thanks.

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On 6/6/2012 4:15 PM, Karl Townsend wrote:
....

I suggest you shop around for a used quincy. if your father had bought
that in 1963, it would just now be broke in.

The air pump can be had for reasonable. if you're in a hurry, might
look at eBay or ask Iggy on this NG. He seems to always have one
around.

Would like have been 3X the cost of this one, too...

I'm certain this one was probably what was available at local farm
supply when the previous one probably died (likely during harvest or
other critical use time).

If Iggy's got something suitable, I'll be glad to hear. I've yet to
figure out how to find out what he's got available so have given up that
route.

I'd searched eBay and not found anything particularly interesting altho
it's a never-ending search given the volume of listings and the
propensity for things other than what looking for to show up in a category.

I did get the head off and I may have gotten lucky...gasket blown
between the two cylinders. I'll have to wait to go to town in the
morning as I didn't have a suitable gasket material on hand. I've got
it cleaned up and waiting...

--

I did get the head off and I may have gotten lucky...gasket blown
between the two cylinders. I'll have to wait to go to town in the
morning as I didn't have a suitable gasket material on hand. I've got
it cleaned up and waiting...

bet you get it going again for just a couple bucks. You'd be wise to
consider this a warning and watch for a quincy. Fairly common at
auction with three phase motors which holds the price down.

On 6/6/2012 6:23 PM, Karl Townsend wrote:

I did get the head off and I may have gotten lucky...gasket blown
between the two cylinders. I'll have to wait to go to town in the
morning as I didn't have a suitable gasket material on hand. I've got
it cleaned up and waiting...

bet you get it going again for just a couple bucks. You'd be wise to
consider this a warning and watch for a quincy. Fairly common at
auction with three phase motors which holds the price down.

I'm thinking so too at least for a while. It doesn't appear to have
done any other damage so I'll change the oil (which in all likelihood
has never been ) and put it back in service and see how long it
goes...one piston wall is a little scuffed, but not terribly so.

As for watching auctions, that kinda' presumes one has auctions of
suitable-type stuff to watch and that just doesn't happen much within
250 miles of here on anything that wouldn't be far bigger than I have
power for...my experience at farm auctions is that most or this kind of
stuff goes for more than a bargain if it's of roughly the size and
appears to be decent.

And, by the time one ships, most of any savings are gone ime and there's
the question then for used stuff of what you're actually getting...

--

In article , dpb wrote:

On the assumption that owing to age and lack of any parts I'll find the
aforementioned Sanborn is beyond hope, I'll throw the floor open for
nominations for a replacement for 5hp, 140 lb-rated 60 gal vertical
tank. More is always better in volume, of course, within reason.

This is primarily farm use intermittent--large tractor/combine tires are
low pressure but very large volumes so that's a major use as well is the
air hose for blowing dirt from radiators, etc., which is also fairly
high. Air tools are probably third on the use list.

Step one, save the tank, unless it has issues. But don't mount the new
compressor pump to it - it's common, and it's a bad idea, like so many
common things. The vibration is not good for the tank's life (though
more usually a problem for horizontal tanks - they crack around the
mounting for the motor - on a vertical, that part of the tank will be
thicker, normally) and you'll do yourself a big favor if you have a long
downhill run from the pump to the tank, with a big drain leg before the
tank, to help cool things off and dry them out before you ever hit the
tank.

If you don't have leaks and your compressor is not a joke (ie, not a
modern cheapy that won't run continuously without overheating), more
tank is always good. Your compressor should not be a joke, given your
uses. Collect good tanks from broken compressors and add them to your
system - helps immensely with the big tires, etc.

Quincy seems to be the best regarded "buy once" compressor brand around
here. Though I'm not sure you need to do anything more than cut a head
gasket from what you wrote in the other thread, so this may be premature
anyway...

On the other end of the spectrum, $145 or less will get you "something"
from ebay that is almost certainly chinese and probably is also crap, in
the long term - but you might get lucky. The $145 one I was looking at
claimed 5-5.5 HP and 145PSI, so it would slot right in. Horrible Fright
is another option if they have a local store so that returning the DOA
units is easy while their warranty holds.

--
Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by
Please don't feed the trolls. Killfile and ignore them so they will go away.

Wait and look for a decent compressor, they are out there.

I bought my 10 HP Quincy for $200.

i

"dpb" wrote in message ...
On 6/6/2012 6:23 PM, Karl Townsend wrote:

I did get the head off and I may have gotten lucky...gasket blown
between the two cylinders. I'll have to wait to go to town in the
morning as I didn't have a suitable gasket material on hand. I've got
it cleaned up and waiting...

bet you get it going again for just a couple bucks. You'd be wise to
consider this a warning and watch for a quincy. Fairly common at
auction with three phase motors which holds the price down.

I'm thinking so too at least for a while. It doesn't appear to have done
any other damage so I'll change the oil (which in all likelihood has never
been ) and put it back in service and see how long it goes...one piston
wall is a little scuffed, but not terribly so.

As for watching auctions, that kinda' presumes one has auctions of
suitable-type stuff to watch and that just doesn't happen much within 250
miles of here on anything that wouldn't be far bigger than I have power
for...my experience at farm auctions is that most or this kind of stuff
goes for more than a bargain if it's of roughly the size and appears to be
decent.

And, by the time one ships, most of any savings are gone ime and there's
the question then for used stuff of what you're actually getting...


Craigslist is often a good place to look where shipping would otherwise be
prohibitive.

On 6/6/2012 10:19 PM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:
....

Craigslist is often a good place to look where shipping would otherwise be
prohibitive.

That also presumes there's a metro area of sufficient size that there
_is_ a local or close-by list or such items that would be on it if there
were...again it's 200+ to any sizable location at all...

--

On 6/6/2012 9:58 PM, Ignoramus30414 wrote:
Wait and look for a decent compressor, they are out there.

I bought my 10 HP Quincy for $200.

And you're in an area w/ a lot of folks...there aren't that many in the
entire state out here.

--

"dpb" wrote in message ...
On 6/6/2012 10:19 PM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:
...

Craigslist is often a good place to look where shipping would otherwise
be
prohibitive.

That also presumes there's a metro area of sufficient size that there _is_
a local or close-by list or such items that would be on it if there
were...again it's 200+ to any sizable location at all...


Make a new gasket from an old shoe box and be done with it then

On 2012-06-07, dpb wrote:
On 6/6/2012 9:58 PM, Ignoramus30414 wrote:
Wait and look for a decent compressor, they are out there.

I bought my 10 HP Quincy for $200.

And you're in an area w/ a lot of folks...there aren't that many in the
entire state out here.

What state is it?

On 6/6/2012 11:52 PM, Ignoramus30414 wrote:
On 2012-06-07, wrote:
On 6/6/2012 9:58 PM, Ignoramus30414 wrote:
Wait and look for a decent compressor, they are out there.

I bought my 10 HP Quincy for $200.

And you're in an area w/ a lot of folks...there aren't that many in the
entire state out here.

What state is it?

KS 2.8M
Cook County, IL 5+M

And, 75% of the total KS population is in roughly 25% of the area
concentrated in the eastern fifth and around the Wichita metro area
which is also 2/3rds the way east geographically. We're located in the
far SW, closer to Denver than KC. There just aren't many folks out here
so the number of locations for finding used industrial-type goods that
are what one might be looking for in particular are quite few and far
between.

Not intended as complaint; simply fact of geography and that what many
(most?) are accustomed to in terms of availability of goods and services
in more populated areas just isn't that way where there aren't the
numbers and businesses to support it.

We're about 10 mi out of one of the larger service areas in the corner
of the state that services an economic area of 80-100 mi radius that
extends into OK and TX panhandles, SE CO and NE NM. But the total
population in that area is well under 50,000, roughly 25K of whom are in
the one county and 80% of those are in town.

On weekends it's not uncommon for the Super Center parking lot to have
as many out of state plates as local as there just isn't another one
within 100-150 miles in three of the four compass directions and it's 60
miles in the fourth.

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On 6/6/2012 11:42 PM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:
wrote in message ...
On 6/6/2012 10:19 PM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:
...

Craigslist is often a good place to look where shipping would otherwise
be
prohibitive.

That also presumes there's a metro area of sufficient size that there _is_
a local or close-by list or such items that would be on it if there
were...again it's 200+ to any sizable location at all...


Make a new gasket from an old shoe box and be done with it then

Well, when I go to town today I'll get some gasket material and do...

Just commenting that there are places where one doesn't have all the
amenities handy that might be at hand in more populated areas (some more
geo details in response to Iggy).

--

dpb fired this volley in news:jqqbub$rob$1
@speranza.aioe.org:

Just commenting that there are places where one doesn't have all the
amenities handy that might be at hand in more populated areas (some more
geo details in response to Iggy).

heh! I'm 10 miles from the nearest _town_, and it's fairly poorly equipped
to meet the needs of a machine shop.

My best resource there is the local ACE hardware. They knowingly stock a
lot of stuff local craftsmen need.

Lloyd

On 2012-06-07, dpb wrote:
On 6/6/2012 11:42 PM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:
wrote in message ...
On 6/6/2012 10:19 PM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:
...

Craigslist is often a good place to look where shipping would otherwise
be
prohibitive.

That also presumes there's a metro area of sufficient size that there _is_
a local or close-by list or such items that would be on it if there
were...again it's 200+ to any sizable location at all...


Make a new gasket from an old shoe box and be done with it then

Well, when I go to town today I'll get some gasket material and do...

Just commenting that there are places where one doesn't have all the
amenities handy that might be at hand in more populated areas (some more
geo details in response to Iggy).

--

Yes, Kansas, it is a little less populated. I lived in Tulsa, OK for
two years. It was actually great, but at that time I did not yet deal
with industrial equipment.

On 6/7/2012 10:11 AM, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
fired this volley in news:jqqbub$rob$1
@speranza.aioe.org:

Just commenting that there are places where one doesn't have all the
amenities handy that might be at hand in more populated areas (some more
geo details in response to Iggy).

heh! I'm 10 miles from the nearest _town_, and it's fairly poorly equipped
to meet the needs of a machine shop.

My best resource there is the local ACE hardware. They knowingly stock a
lot of stuff local craftsmen need.
....

We're about the same; just a little nearer. Being the market center for
a sizable geographic area, it does have several jobbing houses that
serve the ag and oil markets for routine consumables and the like at
least. But a home-based machine shop guy would either have little luck
or would pay a premium indeed as the only supply for that kind of thing
would be one of the local machine shops themselves; there's no retail
outlet that would have much in that regard.

While in TN, did get somewhat spoiled by the proximity to the industrial
supply facilities and of course the number and quantity of small and
one-man machine shops was quite high owing in large part to the DOE
facilities there that have much outsourced work. Nothing even remotely
like that here.

--

We're about 10 mi out of one of the larger service areas in the corner
of the state that services an economic area of 80-100 mi radius that
extends into OK and TX panhandles, SE CO and NE NM. But the total
population in that area is well under 50,000, roughly 25K of whom are in
the one county and 80% of those are in town.

On weekends it's not uncommon for the Super Center parking lot to have
as many out of state plates as local as there just isn't another one
within 100-150 miles in three of the four compass directions and it's 60
miles in the fourth.


I grew up in KS, dated a gal from Garden City, not too far from you.
Combined 1000s of acres of wheat in the days before cabs. Did you get
enough rain for a good crop this year?

Karl

On 6/7/2012 10:13 AM, Ignoramus29973 wrote:
....
Yes, Kansas, it is a little less populated. I lived in Tulsa, OK for
two years. It was actually great, but at that time I did not yet deal
with industrial equipment.

A little less, yes...

OK is about 30% more populous than KS and has a similar geographic
distribution of most of the population is in the eastern third w/ the
exception of OKC/Norman/Stillwater somewhat similar to Wichita area in
KS at least towards the center of the state if not there yet...

For us, instead of Tulsa, in OK think more in terms of Guymon and/or
Woodward... altho we serve as the "large" trade center for Guymon,
Woodward is on the border between here and just going to OKC.

--

On 6/7/2012 11:52 AM, Karl Townsend wrote:
.....

I grew up in KS, dated a gal from Garden City, not too far from you.
Combined 1000s of acres of wheat in the days before cabs. Did you get
enough rain for a good crop this year?

Indeed, Garden is the closest next larger/equivalent place at about 60
mi N...

That's kewl--wheat wasn't too bad; what I hated was milo when so cold
couldn't stand to make a half mile round--Dad, my brother and I swapped
off by having truck at each end and in middle and we'd trade of at the
next vehicle...

It's spotty (as usual). Appeared to be no chance all winter as it was
so dry but got a couple good snows and another couple inches of rain in
early March that let a lot that didn't look like it had any chance at
all come out. In April looked like could have a bumper crop but then we
got virtually nothing since and turned very hot and windy and the heads
didn't fill fully or what did fill was/is very small berries. Here at
the house we had only 0.05" the month of May. Got about an inch two
weeks ago but we're getting where "any time now" would be good again...

This far west most of the dryland I've heard of has only been in the
20-25 bu range although there's some small acreages that probably did do
60 where they caught some other local t-showers. We drove thru OK three
weeks ago on way to/from TN/NC and there was some really good-looking
wheat starting from roughly Buffalo and east (about 80 mi east of us).
Same in KS; they always get more moisture from Dodge and east altho
they've had some serious hail this spring as well.

Overall, a much better year than last two but not what looked like it
could be earlier...at least about everybody had some to cut this year;
not so previous two where there simply was none.

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