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Wow, I tried to search the group archives for compressor, and there
were no results. Anyway, I've always wanted to get a compressor, but have yet to have a good enough reason to get one. I'll be replacing the roof on the house next weekend, so this is the perfect time. The way I see it, there are two main categories of compressors: large tank/high air volume and portable tank/low volume. A large tank will be expensive and allow the use of tools such as paint sprayers, sanders and sand blasting equipment (just a few, but things I can see myself using). A small tank will be less costly and easy to move around. Ideally, I'd like to have one of each: a big stationary monster for the shop, and a small unit to use outside the shop. My roof project sort of dictates portability, so I'm looking at a small tank. So, any recommendations on small compressors primarily for running nail guns? Aside from the doing the roof, I'd say the majority of the usage will be with brad/finish nailers, and filling the occasional tire or toy. One that I've looked at recently was a Bostich kit at Lowe's for $199 - includes a pancake style tank and a brad nailer. |
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On May 3, 11:20*am, Mike wrote:
Wow, I tried to search the group archives for compressor, and there were no results. Anyway, I've always wanted to get a compressor, but have yet to have a good enough reason to get one. I'll be replacing the roof on the house next weekend, so this is the perfect time. The way I see it, there are two main categories of compressors: large tank/high air volume and portable tank/low volume. A large tank will be expensive and allow the use of tools such as paint sprayers, sanders and sand blasting equipment (just a few, but things I can see myself using). A small tank will be less costly and easy to move around. Ideally, I'd like to have one of each: a big stationary monster for the shop, and a small unit to use outside the shop. My roof project sort of dictates portability, so I'm looking at a small tank. So, any recommendations on small compressors primarily for running nail guns? Aside from the doing the roof, I'd say the majority of the usage will be with brad/finish nailers, and filling the occasional tire or toy. One that I've looked at recently was a Bostich kit at Lowe's for $199 - includes a pancake style tank and a brad nailer. Rent a pancake compressor for the roof and shop the honest-to-gosh compressor stores for a decent large compressor. Many 'small' trade- ins from body shops can be had, some needing a conversion from three phase to single phase power. Say $200 for a nice big older compressor and a new 5 HP motor at $150 and you've got something unmatchable in today's box stores. Those old cast iron two cylinder brutes have different size cylinders, a low pressure side feeding the higher pressure output. That's exactly what you need to run a HVLP spray gun off your own air system. Unlike the Chinese box store offerings, these old timers are readily rebuildable. In my experience, the time between rebuilds is about 35 years. While you're at it, lay in a supply of high flow V type air fitting from Milton or the similar knock-offs from Harbor freight. Never use a 1/4" air hose, and always use 3/4" black iron for your shop plumbing. IMO, Senco has the best nailing guns and fasteners, but all are pretty decent these days. Enough for now. Have fun shopping. Joe |
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Mike wrote:
Wow, I tried to search the group archives for compressor, and there were no results. Anyway, I've always wanted to get a compressor, but have yet to have a good enough reason to get one. I'll be replacing the roof on the house next weekend, so this is the perfect time. The way I see it, there are two main categories of compressors: large tank/high air volume and portable tank/low volume. A large tank will be expensive and allow the use of tools such as paint sprayers, sanders and sand blasting equipment (just a few, but things I can see myself using). A small tank will be less costly and easy to move around. Ideally, I'd like to have one of each: a big stationary monster for the shop, and a small unit to use outside the shop. My roof project sort of dictates portability, so I'm looking at a small tank. So, any recommendations on small compressors primarily for running nail guns? Aside from the doing the roof, I'd say the majority of the usage will be with brad/finish nailers, and filling the occasional tire or toy. One that I've looked at recently was a Bostich kit at Lowe's for $199 - includes a pancake style tank and a brad nailer. A few months ago I bought a Porter Cable pancake style compressor with 4 guns for about $280. HD had them on sale, but only available at one store for some reason. I have used it on my roof and for some craft projects. Seems to be just what I need. Check it out. |
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There are several good deals out there for small, portable compressors with accessories. I have seen Campbell Hausfeld, Husky and other portables for around $200-250 with nail guns. Any recognized brands in that price range might be a good deal. With that said, your comments indicate a down-stream desire for a larger machine for your shop. Unless your house is huge, why not drop the portable and go with a good, capable and higher capacity machine with more hose. We are in the process of finishing a new home. We served as general contractor for the framers, roofers, rockers, etc. We are doing most of the finish ourselves. We have seen lots of compressors come and go but none of them moved around very much. Our framer, who also did the siding and other work had an old, horizontal 20 gallon 2-stager that sat on our garage floor for a month or more. He had lots of hose and a couple of "T" fittings made from cast-iron plumbing "T"'s and quick-release air chucks. He moved hoses around our 60'x60' footprint but the compressor stayed put. Even the roofer dropped their pancake on the driveway and reached all points on the house with similar equipment. We can reach all points inside the first floor with our compressor in the garage and with two hoses. During an earlier house finish I plumbed black gas pipe through the basement wall into the garage and had an easy source to finish the basement using the garage compressor. Our compressor is an older Campbell Hausfeld hybrid. It is portable (on wheels) but not light. The tank is similar to the big CH 60-80 gallon uprights but shortened to about 35 gallon capacity. It is a 5 HP, two stage machine and It provides flow rate for nearly all common shop tools but does require occasional pause for spraying or continuous sanding. My personal preference is the oiled, 2 stage because I think they are more reliable in the long run (They do cost more). Besides the noise of the oil-less machines make my hair hurt. More hose and a few fittings might be your answer. Hope this helps. RonB |
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Mike wrote:
Wow, I tried to search the group archives for compressor, and there were no results. Anyway, I've always wanted to get a compressor, but have yet to have a good enough reason to get one. I'll be replacing the roof on the house next weekend, so this is the perfect time. The way I see it, there are two main categories of compressors: large tank/high air volume and portable tank/low volume. A large tank will be expensive and allow the use of tools such as paint sprayers, sanders and sand blasting equipment (just a few, but things I can see myself using). A small tank will be less costly and easy to move around. Ideally, I'd like to have one of each: a big stationary monster for the shop, and a small unit to use outside the shop. My roof project sort of dictates portability, so I'm looking at a small tank. So, any recommendations on small compressors primarily for running nail guns? Aside from the doing the roof, I'd say the majority of the usage will be with brad/finish nailers, and filling the occasional tire or toy. One that I've looked at recently was a Bostich kit at Lowe's for $199 - includes a pancake style tank and a brad nailer. You're on the right track. I watched my neighbor's roof being re-done. They had four guys, three with hammers and one with an air-nailer. The guy with the air-nailer was putting down shingles as fast as the other three guys combined. Frankly, for puttering around the shop, just about any compressor will do the job. I got one and use it for just about everything, including replacing about 400' of baseboards. It's gotten so I hate hammers! |
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"Mike" wrote in message ... Wow, I tried to search the group archives for compressor, and there were no results. Anyway, I've always wanted to get a compressor, but have yet to have a good enough reason to get one. I'll be replacing the roof on the house next weekend, so this is the perfect time. The way I see it, there are two main categories of compressors: large tank/high air volume and portable tank/low volume. A large tank will be expensive and allow the use of tools such as paint sprayers, sanders and sand blasting equipment (just a few, but things I can see myself using). A small tank will be less costly and easy to move around. Ideally, I'd like to have one of each: a big stationary monster for the shop, and a small unit to use outside the shop. My roof project sort of dictates portability, so I'm looking at a small tank. So, any recommendations on small compressors primarily for running nail guns? Aside from the doing the roof, I'd say the majority of the usage will be with brad/finish nailers, and filling the occasional tire or toy. One that I've looked at recently was a Bostich kit at Lowe's for $199 - includes a pancake style tank and a brad nailer. Something to consider, if you are strictly going to use it around "your" house you can get away with a larger less portable compressor and do anything. You do not need portability to do your roof. In fact the closer to the electrical outlet that your compressor is the better it is going to run. For about $10 you can buy a "cheap" 100' hose from HD. In most cases two of those hoses will get you to just about any part of your home. So if you are strictly going to be working around the house with the compressor save your money on the small compressor and go towards the larger one. Having said that, I have used a spray paint gun to paint a 12' x 16' tall steel roll up garage door. using an 11 gal direct drive compressor. I did in deed have to stop every few minutes to let the compressor cycle but as often as we needed to paint that was fine. I personally use a 20 gal compressor and it does every thing I want it to do and has for the last 15 years. The medium sized compressors will do the high volume work if you allow time to let them cycle. If you see your self using the large volume tool on a regular basis go with the large compressor. If not, the 20 gallon size should suite your needs. The more Iron in the compressor, tank, and pump, the quieter it will operate. Take a magnet with you shopping to check the compressor pump block, cylinder, and head. The more of those components that the magnet sticks to the quieter it will operate and quieter is oh so much more of a pleasure to work around. |
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On Sun, 3 May 2009 09:20:26 -0700 (PDT), Mike wrote:
Wow, I tried to search the group archives for compressor, and there were no results. Anyway, I've always wanted to get a compressor, but have yet to have a good enough reason to get one. I'll be replacing the roof on the house next weekend, so this is the perfect time. The way I see it, there are two main categories of compressors: large tank/high air volume and portable tank/low volume. A large tank will be expensive and allow the use of tools such as paint sprayers, sanders and sand blasting equipment (just a few, but things I can see myself using). A small tank will be less costly and easy to move around. Ideally, I'd like to have one of each: a big stationary monster for the shop, and a small unit to use outside the shop. My roof project sort of dictates portability, so I'm looking at a small tank. So, any recommendations on small compressors primarily for running nail guns? Aside from the doing the roof, I'd say the majority of the usage will be with brad/finish nailers, and filling the occasional tire or toy. One that I've looked at recently was a Bostich kit at Lowe's for $199 - includes a pancake style tank and a brad nailer. A couple of years ago I had a bunch of woodwork to repair and was getting nowhere with a hammer (smiles galore) so bought a PC pancake with three finishing nailers. It worked great but I quickly outgrew it so recently (after retiring, move, and a new job ;-) bought a DeWalt upright portable (D55168). Bottom line, I'm not sure a pancake will be enough for a roofing nailer and I think you'll be buying another one (not necessarily a bad thing ;-) if you go with the pancake. |
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A couple of years ago I had a bunch of woodwork to repair and was getting nowhere with a hammer (smiles galore) so bought a PC pancake with three finishing nailers. *It worked great but I quickly outgrew it so recently (after retiring, move, and a new job ;-) *bought a DeWalt upright portable (D55168). *Bottom line, I'm not sure a pancake will be enough for a roofing nailer and I think you'll be buying another one (not necessarily a bad thing ;-) if you go with the pancake. * Well, I went around and looked at various compressors today. I've come to the same conclusion - better to go with a bigger one and plan to keep it stationary in the shop. I've got three models in mind: 1. Craftsman Pro 25 gal. horizontal 2. Dewalt D55168 15 gal vertical (200PSI) 3. Campbell Hausfeld 60 gal (Lowes) All three are similar in price, although the Lowes model will require a regulator and doesn't come with any hoses or extras. Anyone have experience with any of these? |
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A nice big one for the shop is the way to go. And go by a pawn shop
for a smaller portable. The small one for nail guns just needs pressure and a small volume. A small tank can be made from a propane tank and with a few dollars of adapters you have a portable tank. Charge it up with the big one and off you go for hours on the house. For 40 years I've used a converted Freon tank for just that. At first I had a small pump to charge it. I have a large tank that can handle everything and a small tank I can charge and a CO2 tank that I use when using my fence gun away from power or when it is handy. Martin Mike wrote: Wow, I tried to search the group archives for compressor, and there were no results. Anyway, I've always wanted to get a compressor, but have yet to have a good enough reason to get one. I'll be replacing the roof on the house next weekend, so this is the perfect time. The way I see it, there are two main categories of compressors: large tank/high air volume and portable tank/low volume. A large tank will be expensive and allow the use of tools such as paint sprayers, sanders and sand blasting equipment (just a few, but things I can see myself using). A small tank will be less costly and easy to move around. Ideally, I'd like to have one of each: a big stationary monster for the shop, and a small unit to use outside the shop. My roof project sort of dictates portability, so I'm looking at a small tank. So, any recommendations on small compressors primarily for running nail guns? Aside from the doing the roof, I'd say the majority of the usage will be with brad/finish nailers, and filling the occasional tire or toy. One that I've looked at recently was a Bostich kit at Lowe's for $199 - includes a pancake style tank and a brad nailer. |
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I got a finish nailer some years ago and tried it on a bird house. WOW!
The house was to 'light' to hammer on and I needed more hands... I could hold it with one hand, shoot with the other and it was not blasting across a table with each blow. A simple nail gun can really make a difference considering the elbow and wrist issues by hammers. Martin HeyBub wrote: Mike wrote: Wow, I tried to search the group archives for compressor, and there were no results. Anyway, I've always wanted to get a compressor, but have yet to have a good enough reason to get one. I'll be replacing the roof on the house next weekend, so this is the perfect time. The way I see it, there are two main categories of compressors: large tank/high air volume and portable tank/low volume. A large tank will be expensive and allow the use of tools such as paint sprayers, sanders and sand blasting equipment (just a few, but things I can see myself using). A small tank will be less costly and easy to move around. Ideally, I'd like to have one of each: a big stationary monster for the shop, and a small unit to use outside the shop. My roof project sort of dictates portability, so I'm looking at a small tank. So, any recommendations on small compressors primarily for running nail guns? Aside from the doing the roof, I'd say the majority of the usage will be with brad/finish nailers, and filling the occasional tire or toy. One that I've looked at recently was a Bostich kit at Lowe's for $199 - includes a pancake style tank and a brad nailer. You're on the right track. I watched my neighbor's roof being re-done. They had four guys, three with hammers and one with an air-nailer. The guy with the air-nailer was putting down shingles as fast as the other three guys combined. Frankly, for puttering around the shop, just about any compressor will do the job. I got one and use it for just about everything, including replacing about 400' of baseboards. It's gotten so I hate hammers! |
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#3 is cast iron double head ? - long lasting design.
The small volume ones are likely plenty for guns but if you run sanders or other air tools their volume at pressure may not be enough. Remember horizontal ones take horizontal space and in most shops verticle space is cheap - horizontal space is expensive. I got the all green on the front model... But I use a lot of air at 75 psi. It can generate more than I need but it turns on once or twice a job. I drive a Plasma CNC table with mine and through a refrigeration dryer as well. You need to determine the use and flow at what pressure. If only nail guns - then most any. A twin pump with a motor drive makes MUCH less noise than the small noisy single piston ones. Noise might be an issue. Martin Mike wrote: A couple of years ago I had a bunch of woodwork to repair and was getting nowhere with a hammer (smiles galore) so bought a PC pancake with three finishing nailers. It worked great but I quickly outgrew it so recently (after retiring, move, and a new job ;-) bought a DeWalt upright portable (D55168). Bottom line, I'm not sure a pancake will be enough for a roofing nailer and I think you'll be buying another one (not necessarily a bad thing ;-) if you go with the pancake. Well, I went around and looked at various compressors today. I've come to the same conclusion - better to go with a bigger one and plan to keep it stationary in the shop. I've got three models in mind: 1. Craftsman Pro 25 gal. horizontal 2. Dewalt D55168 15 gal vertical (200PSI) 3. Campbell Hausfeld 60 gal (Lowes) All three are similar in price, although the Lowes model will require a regulator and doesn't come with any hoses or extras. Anyone have experience with any of these? |
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On May 3, 12:20*pm, Mike wrote:
Wow, I tried to search the group archives for compressor, and there were no results. Anyway, I've always wanted to get a compressor, but have yet to have a good enough reason to get one. I'll be replacing the roof on the house next weekend, so this is the perfect time. The way I see it, there are two main categories of compressors: large tank/high air volume and portable tank/low volume. A large tank will be expensive and allow the use of tools such as paint sprayers, sanders and sand blasting equipment (just a few, but things I can see myself using). A small tank will be less costly and easy to move around. Ideally, I'd like to have one of each: a big stationary monster for the shop, and a small unit to use outside the shop. My roof project sort of dictates portability, so I'm looking at a small tank. So, any recommendations on small compressors primarily for running nail guns? Aside from the doing the roof, I'd say the majority of the usage will be with brad/finish nailers, and filling the occasional tire or toy. One that I've looked at recently was a Bostich kit at Lowe's for $199 - includes a pancake style tank and a brad nailer. I was at a jobsite recently where a trim carpenter had a small Senco piston compressor. It sounded like a sweet small sewing machine. I want one, so I can get rid of my PC pancake. My PCpancake has been flawless in service, but man is it L O U D. He said he paid around 200 dollars for it at Lowe's. It was not oil- less, btw. |
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Well, I went around and looked at various compressors today. I've come
to the same conclusion - better to go with a bigger one and plan to keep it stationary in the shop. I've got three models in mind: 1. Craftsman Pro 25 gal. horizontal 2. Dewalt D55168 15 gal vertical (200PSI) 3. Campbell Hausfeld 60 gal (Lowes) I don't know what prices are for the three, but Campbell Hausfeld is a good brand and I don't think you can go wrong. They have been building industrial, farm and home air compression equipment for years. Dewalt builds good equipment too but I suspect someone else builds their compressor. Choice #1 started burning me, and a lot of others in my age range, 20-30 years ago and I wouldn't recommend them. BTW, the big tank verticals, like #3 might actually take up less floor space than some of the smaller horizontals. RonB |
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Mike wrote:
.... Well, I went around and looked at various compressors today. I've come to the same conclusion - better to go with a bigger one and plan to keep it stationary in the shop. I've got three models in mind: 1. Craftsman Pro 25 gal. horizontal 2. Dewalt D55168 15 gal vertical (200PSI) 3. Campbell Hausfeld 60 gal (Lowes) All three are similar in price, although the Lowes model will require a regulator and doesn't come with any hoses or extras. Anyone have experience with any of these? That's like comparing a local juco to the state uni to (say) Stanford -- they're completely different styles/types of beasts. -- |
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On May 4, 8:46*am, dpb wrote:
Mike wrote: ... Well, I went around and looked at various compressors today. I've come to the same conclusion - better to go with a bigger one and plan to keep it stationary in the shop. I've got three models in mind: 1. Craftsman Pro 25 gal. horizontal 2. Dewalt D55168 15 gal vertical (200PSI) 3. Campbell Hausfeld 60 gal (Lowes) All three are similar in price, although the Lowes model will require a regulator and doesn't come with any hoses or extras. Anyone have experience with any of these? That's like comparing a local juco to the state uni to (say) Stanford -- they're completely different styles/types of beasts. -- www.eatoncompressor.com . No affiliation, just a very happy customer. Very high quality components, comparatively itty bitty price. I recommend a small very portable one (the lighter the better) and a monster for the shop. I bought the 60 gallon 5 horse two stage for less than $1500.00 (delivered) and I couldn't be happier. It's a true five horse motor (huge) not five peak horsepower it's a 1725rpm so it runs less which means it will last longer and the pump is a cast iron monster. I think the price has gone up 200 bucks since I bought mine (5 yrs ago) but it's still a deal when you compare apples to apples. Eaton makes a very nice portable also. Give them a look. bc |
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On May 4, 8:46*am, dpb wrote:
Mike wrote: ... Well, I went around and looked at various compressors today. I've come to the same conclusion - better to go with a bigger one and plan to keep it stationary in the shop. I've got three models in mind: 1. Craftsman Pro 25 gal. horizontal 2. Dewalt D55168 15 gal vertical (200PSI) 3. Campbell Hausfeld 60 gal (Lowes) All three are similar in price, although the Lowes model will require a regulator and doesn't come with any hoses or extras. Anyone have experience with any of these? That's like comparing a local juco to the state uni to (say) Stanford -- they're completely different styles/types of beasts. -- ps when u choose the small one just make sure the average air consumption for your nailer is at or preferably below the displacement rating for the compressor wich is 5.5 cfm @90 psi for the small eaton unit |
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"Robatoy" wrote in message I was at a jobsite recently where a trim carpenter had a small Senco piston compressor. It sounded like a sweet small sewing machine. I want one, so I can get rid of my PC pancake. My PCpancake has been flawless in service, but man is it L O U D. Any chance you got a model number of found out what its maximum compression was? |
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wrote in message ... I don't know what prices are for the three, but is a good brand and I don't think you can go wrong. They have been building industrial, farm and home air compression equipment for years. The last Campbell Hausfeld compressor that I looked at was made in Taiwan. They probably still make the industrial sized ones though. |
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If there ever was a tool you only want to buy ONCE, it is an air compressor. The biggest package a home shop can support based on having only single phase power available is as follows: 5 HP, cap start, cap run, 240VAC/1PH/60HZ, motor. 2 stage compressor with intercooler. 80 gallon receiver, vertical mount. Current price is about $1100-$1200 plus installation which will add about $300. IOW, $1500 buys a lifetime compressor. Compared to the cost of a cabinet saw, it is a bargain. YMMV Lew |
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"Mike" wrote in message ... Wow, I tried to search the group archives for compressor, and there were no results. Really? I looked and there are a ton of compressor topics in the archives. Anyway, I've always wanted to get a compressor, but have yet to have a good enough reason to get one. I'll be replacing the roof on the house next weekend, so this is the perfect time. The way I see it, there are two main categories of compressors: large tank/high air volume and portable tank/low volume. A large tank will be expensive and allow the use of tools such as paint sprayers, sanders and sand blasting equipment (just a few, but things I can see myself using). A small tank will be less costly and easy to move around. Ideally, I'd like to have one of each: a big stationary monster for the shop, and a small unit to use outside the shop. My roof project sort of dictates portability, so I'm looking at a small tank. So, any recommendations on small compressors primarily for running nail guns? Aside from the doing the roof, I'd say the majority of the usage will be with brad/finish nailers, and filling the occasional tire or toy. One that I've looked at recently was a Bostich kit at Lowe's for $199 - includes a pancake style tank and a brad nailer. If you're looking for one of each, then any pancake compressor will serve your needs for a nail gun. You might also want to consider either a simple tank that you fill and take up on the roof and use until it needs a re-charge, or simply a few more lengths of air hose that you connect to one big compressor. If you anticipate a lot of need for portability, then obviously the pancake is a good idea, but if you really don't see yourself having to load up the car/truck and head out to a site to do work, then it's really not all that necessary. Another consideration is the small horizontal tank type compressor that HF sells. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=40400 My son bought one very similar to this for $99 at HF, and has used it for a few years now. Works just fine and is easy to load and move around. -- -Mike- |
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"Joe Brophy" wrote in message ... On Sun, 3 May 2009 09:20:26 -0700 (PDT), Mike wrote: Air Compressors, pressure washers, and most other continuous operation types of equipment should be selected using the following "rule of thumb": Buy the largest you can afford or else you will probably be disappointed. Like the other guy in this thread who had a medium size compressor and had to "wait" for the unit to catch up while spray painting, I too had a smaller unit to start with, although not by my choice. In stark contrast to the other posters comment implying that it was "ok" to wait (stopping using the compressor) until it caught up, for me, after a couple of times "waiting" I started using this down time to plot how I was to get rid of this compressor and get one that was adequate to perform the jobs I needed it to without having to make me wait. I quickly regretted rationalizing that my under sized compressor unit would "probably be ok" when called upon to deliver air pressure at a rate it simply was not capable of doing, at about this same time I recognized that "waiting" was about as fun as "waiting" for your wife to finish her shopping at the mall after you have: 1) finished your shopping, 2) Already became bored window shopping and other conjured up means to kill time, 3) Kicked yourself for not establishing a way of communicating with each other prior to the agreed to end time, should the need arise. Yep, just like having to wait on that compressor. Even worse if your neighbor comes over and sees you playing solitaire while your compressor is running to "catch up". Nope, not even close to being "ok" from my perspective. I was at least one of the other persons that mentioned using a spray painter with a "small" 11 gal. direct drive not medium sized compressor. The wait was approximately 15-20 seconds. If you want the larger compressor and have no wait time that is OK. I have personally had the larger 80 gallon compressor and a 25 and currently have a 20 and also have a 3 gal. For most doing recreational wood working this is more than enough especially for the occasionally spray painting. I use the 3 gal compressor for on the job fence jobs and leave the portable 20 gal unit in place, it is still to big to be hauling to another location IMHO. The 80 gallon unit was an Albatross in the shop. For a wood working shop it was rarely used any where near capacity. I was glad to get rid if it. You bring up good points but when buying I think you will waste a lot of money if you buy the biggest you can afford. Personally I can easily afford a $10,000 compressor. I personally have probably gone over board on machine purchases but that was my choice. I have gone over board on compressors also and prefer the smaller quieter units for woodworking. |
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"Leon" revealed this about himself... I personally have probably gone over board on machine purchases but that was my choice. Say it ain't so Leon. Doncha know that saying things like this in a woodworking group is blasphemy? Repeat after me. I make wise tool buying decisions. I am at peace with my tool buying decisions. I love my tools. My tools love me. I talk to my tools. My tools talk to me. I am wise in the way of tools. No go fondle some of your tools. And realize that everything is right with the world. VBG |
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"Leon" wrote in message also and prefer the smaller quieter units for woodworking. In regards to those quieter compressors, have you (or anybody else) come across any listings of the decibel levels of compressors? I know I can go and find out compressor decibel ratings for them singly, but that takes time. It would be easier if someone has already compiled a list. |
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"Upscale" wrote in message ... "Leon" wrote in message also and prefer the smaller quieter units for woodworking. In regards to those quieter compressors, have you (or anybody else) come across any listings of the decibel levels of compressors? I know I can go and find out compressor decibel ratings for them singly, but that takes time. It would be easier if someone has already compiled a list. I do not recall seeing a decibel rating on compressors although my current 20 gallon compressor with belt drive twin piston and cast iron block and cylinder is quiet enough to have a conversation 3-4 feet away. The head is aluminum. The 3 gal direct drive model is considerably more noisy but recharges pretty quickly, in the 10 second range IIRC. And then there is the motor speed that can make more noise. It seems that a slower running but louder compressor is less irritating than a quieter and higher pitched fast running compressor. |
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"Lee Michaels" wrote in message ... "Leon" revealed this about himself... I personally have probably gone over board on machine purchases but that was my choice. Say it ain't so Leon. Doncha know that saying things like this in a woodworking group is blasphemy? Repeat after me. I make wise tool buying decisions. I am at peace with my tool buying decisions. I love my tools. My tools love me. I talk to my tools. My tools talk to me. I am wise in the way of tools. No go fondle some of your tools. And realize that everything is right with the world. VBG The Laguna and the Festool equipment have certainly been purchases where I went speeding past the adequate requirements however the BS requires no, "fiddl'n" with, for it to turn out great results and to eat what ever I throw at it. The Festool, well I certainly do not have much fine dust floating around in the air any more when sanding and the Domino is like a biscuit cutter on MEGA Steroids. I did not need any of those tools but they certainly make life easier in the shop. |
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"Leon" wrote in message The 3 gal direct drive model is considerably more noisy but recharges pretty quickly, in the 10 second range IIRC. http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/...406/i2846.html I'm considering something along the lines of the one above. It's listed at 55 decibels or about the level of an average conversation and weighs in close to 50 lbs. That's a little heavier than what I had in mind, but I'm not ready to exclude it yet. |
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"Upscale" wrote in message ... "Leon" wrote in message The 3 gal direct drive model is considerably more noisy but recharges pretty quickly, in the 10 second range IIRC. http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/...406/i2846.html I'm considering something along the lines of the one above. It's listed at 55 decibels or about the level of an average conversation and weighs in close to 50 lbs. That's a little heavier than what I had in mind, but I'm not ready to exclude it yet. I am not sure what your CFM requirements are but DeWalt has a couple of small belt drive units that weigh 24 lb and 30 lb. D55140 and D55141 respectively. http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/To...il_Compare.asp |
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On May 6, 8:55*am, "Lee Michaels"
wrote: "Leon" revealed this about himself... I personally have probably gone over board on machine purchases but that was my choice. Say it ain't so Leon. *Doncha know that saying things like this in a woodworking group is blasphemy? Repeat after me. *I make wise tool buying decisions. I am at peace with my tool buying decisions. I love my tools. My tools love me. I talk to my tools. *My tools talk to me. I am wise in the way of tools. No go fondle some of your tools. And realize that everything is right with the world. VBG Right on! Couldn't have said it better. Cheers, Joe |
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"Leon" wrote in message ... You bring up good points but when buying I think you will waste a lot of money if you buy the biggest you can afford. Personally I can easily afford a $10,000 compressor. I personally have probably gone over board on machine purchases but that was my choice. I have gone over board on compressors also and prefer the smaller quieter units for woodworking. Leon - did your wife put you up to saying this? -- -Mike- |
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"Mike Marlow" wrote in message ... "Leon" wrote in message ... You bring up good points but when buying I think you will waste a lot of money if you buy the biggest you can afford. Personally I can easily afford a $10,000 compressor. I personally have probably gone over board on machine purchases but that was my choice. I have gone over board on compressors also and prefer the smaller quieter units for woodworking. Leon - did your wife put you up to saying this? LOL, No, actually she has almost as many $'s invested in fancy machines as I do. |
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"Leon" wrote in message I am not sure what your CFM requirements are but DeWalt has a couple of small belt drive units that weigh 24 lb and 30 lb. D55140 and D55141 respectively. Thanks, they're more along the lines of what I'm looking for. I let you know what I get. |
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