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I want to transport a fairly large amount of raw gold within the borders of
the US on an airliner. I wrote to TSA and specifically asked them about
precious metals, and they sent me the info on currency restrictions. I went
to the customs website, but it isn't working.

It's scary to think who's driving this bus.

Does anyone have any personal knowledge, info, or experience in transporting
more than $10k worth of precious metals through TSA, and customs, although
this would be a domestic flight?

Steve


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I want to transport a fairly large amount of raw gold within the
borders of the US on an airliner. I wrote to TSA and specifically
asked them about precious metals, and they sent me the info on
currency restrictions. I went to the customs website, but it isn't
working.

It's scary to think who's driving this bus.

Does anyone have any personal knowledge, info, or experience in
transporting more than $10k worth of precious metals through TSA,
and customs, although this would be a domestic flight?

Steve


I cast it into a bird statue, painted it black and declared it as art.

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Does anyone have any personal knowledge, info, or experience in transporting
more than $10k worth of precious metals through TSA, and customs, although
this would be a domestic flight?

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Certainly not I but I'd not even consider considering it in the current
environment. I'd use one of the for hire courier services and insure
the heck out of it.

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Does anyone have any personal knowledge, info, or experience in
transporting
more than $10k worth of precious metals through TSA, and customs,
although
this would be a domestic flight?

...


Certainly not I but I'd not even consider considering it in the
current environment. I'd use one of the for hire courier services
and insure the heck out of it.


Use it to buy an airplane and fly it empty. They'll never suspect a
thing.



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Does anyone have any personal knowledge,
info, or experience in transporting
more than $10k worth of precious metals
through TSA, and customs, although
this would be a domestic flight?

....

Certainly not I but I'd not even consider considering
it in the current environment. I'd use one of the for
hire courier services and insure the heck out of it.

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Does anyone have any personal knowledge, info, or experience in
transporting more than $10k worth of precious metals through TSA,
and customs, although this would be a domestic flight?

Steve


I cast it into a bird statue, painted it black and declared it as art.

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Whatever you do don't paint yourself with it. Ask me how I know.

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On 2012-05-13, dpb wrote:
On 5/13/2012 3:14 PM, Steve B wrote:
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Does anyone have any personal knowledge, info, or experience in transporting
more than $10k worth of precious metals through TSA, and customs, although
this would be a domestic flight?

...

Certainly not I but I'd not even consider considering it in the current
environment. I'd use one of the for hire courier services and insure
the heck out of it.

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What do those couries services do, walk with the gold all the way?

Or do they also fly?

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On 2012-05-13, wrote:
On 5/13/2012 3:14 PM, Steve B wrote:
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Does anyone have any personal knowledge, info, or experience in transporting
more than $10k worth of precious metals through TSA, and customs, although
this would be a domestic flight?

...

Certainly not I but I'd not even consider considering it in the current
environment. I'd use one of the for hire courier services and insure
the heck out of it.

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What do those couries services do, walk with the gold all the way?

Or do they also fly?


They probably just mail it.

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On Sun, 13 May 2012 13:14:53 -0700, "Steve B" wrote:

I want to transport a fairly large amount of raw gold within the borders of
the US on an airliner. I wrote to TSA and specifically asked them about
precious metals, and they sent me the info on currency restrictions. I went
to the customs website, but it isn't working.

It's scary to think who's driving this bus.

Does anyone have any personal knowledge, info, or experience in transporting
more than $10k worth of precious metals through TSA, and customs, although
this would be a domestic flight?

Steve

Gem merchants travel with a million dollars in diamonds regularly.

You may consider googling how they do it.

Gunner


But would diamonds show up like lead/gold on the airport scanner.

I had an uncle who actually was a jewelry trader before airport
scanners. In fact he mainly traveled by train and would just throw his
brief case on the rack as though it was only office papers etc
believing if it looked innocuous nobody would touch it.

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Ignoramus6213 wrote:
On 2012-05-13, wrote:
On 5/13/2012 3:14 PM, Steve B wrote:
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Does anyone have any personal knowledge, info, or experience in transporting
more than $10k worth of precious metals through TSA, and customs, although
this would be a domestic flight?
...

Certainly not I but I'd not even consider considering it in the current
environment. I'd use one of the for hire courier services and insure
the heck out of it.

--


What do those couries services do, walk with the gold all the way?

Or do they also fly?


They probably just mail it.

http://postalmuseum.si.edu/museum/1d...ondwrapper.jpg


I suspect the couriers have their own arrangements.

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Does anyone have any personal knowledge, info, or experience in transporting
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this would be a domestic flight?
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Many years ago when I still had money to invest, I bought $10,000 in
gold coins. They were mailed to me at a post office where I picked
them up. I was impressed at the time by how little it cost to make
the delivery. I mailed the coins to a buyer at a later date and was
very impressed by the cost of mailing and insuring the coins. The
company that shipped the coins to me obviously had a blanket policy to
cover any lost packages they mailed.

Send your valuables by mail, disclose the contents to the post office,
and pay for full insurance coverage.
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On 5/13/2012 7:35 PM, Ignoramus6213 wrote:
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What do those couries services do, walk with the gold all the way?

Or do they also fly?


They're set up w/ the security and processes to deal w/ it and not have
the potential questions source/destination that can arise w/ individual.

Probably worse on retrospect w/ large currency stashes than w/ the metal
altho even there w/ the problems of laundering, terrorism channels and
all it just seems terribly risky that some over-zealous TSA twerp could
decide you're a threat.

TSA indicates "no problem, just tell us" but I'm not that trusting of
good judgment by a random employee; witness the foolishness of the 4-yr
old recently.

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/assistant/editorial_1847.shtm

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What might that be? Was the kid foolish, or the TSA
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TSA indicates "no problem, just tell us" but I'm not that
trusting of good judgment by a random employee;
witness the foolishness of the 4-yr old recently.



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I had an uncle who actually was a jewelry trader before airport scanners.
In fact he mainly traveled by train and would just throw his brief case on
the rack as though it was only office papers etc believing if it looked
innocuous nobody would touch it.

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I was parking cars at the Desert Inn, about 1980. They allowed the "girls"
to come in and cruise the bar, as it was good for business. The "regulars"
would always try to make sure their Johns made it to the tables, so the
hotel got a crack at them. Then they had a "trick roll" where a guy lost
$700,000 in jewelry during the jewelry show. Slipped him a Mickey, IIRC.
After that, they cracked down on all the "girls". They had security at the
door, and if they made it past security, they didn't last more than ten
minutes. It really cut into our business, particularly on graveyard where
it was almost all hookers and lounge lizards.

I also worked the jewelry conventions in my last Teamster years, too old to
run for cars. It was the only show that had their own ARMED Pinkerton
guards. Stuff would come in those belly tanks that are wheeled right off
the plane. Lots of serious looking men, dressed all in black, wearing a
firearm, Taser, nighstick, and pepper spray. There were a few "incidents",
but not many at the conventions. Mainly teams working in harmony. There
were many more "incidents" away from the conventions at the hotels. Your
uncle, I am sure was a careful man, and probably had a good read on people.
But you do have to admit that the whole world has changed since then.

Steve


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How many wise 4-yr olds are there?

DAGS "TSA, Wichita, 4-yr old"

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What do those couries services do, walk with the gold all the way?

Or do they also fly?

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Saw a program one time about them. Seems like quite a high dollar
occupation, and one with long hours, considering intercontinental travel.
On the program I saw, they have a network of hitching rides on private
corporate jets at times because their clients have "pull", or just that the
jet would like a little something towards sharing the fuel.

Steve


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