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Since my machines aren't being moved for at least a couple days I'm
going to spend the time making some rolling carts to replace most of
the benches in my shop. I have lots of 2 inch 1/8 wall square tubing
for the legs and plan on using 1x1x1/8 angle to make the shelf
supports and to tie it all together. 2 x3 feet is about the largest I
will be able to move around in the shop easily so that's my max size.
Any thoughts on shelf height and number? I will be using 3/8 ply for
the shelves with supports underneath. If I turn the angle up that
leaves a 1/2 inch tall lip. Think that's enough? Any advice?
Thanks,
Eric
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Since my machines aren't being moved for at least a couple days I'm
going to spend the time making some rolling carts to replace most of
the benches in my shop. I have lots of 2 inch 1/8 wall square tubing
for the legs and plan on using 1x1x1/8 angle to make the shelf
supports and to tie it all together. 2 x3 feet is about the largest I
will be able to move around in the shop easily so that's my max size.
Any thoughts on shelf height and number? I will be using 3/8 ply for
the shelves with supports underneath. If I turn the angle up that
leaves a 1/2 inch tall lip. Think that's enough? Any advice?
Thanks,
Eric

A few thoughts (mostly from things I didn't do one time or another,
and wished I had).

1:I would think a 1/2" lip is more than enough to keep things from
rolling/ sliding off, but the raised lip can act as a guillotine edge
when placing something heavy on the shelf.

2:I would also consider adding some way of clamping or bolting the
carts together so that they can act as a single bench/table if needed.

3:Adjustable levelers or feet. Do not leave them sitting on whatever
you will use to make it roll.

4:Paint the underside of the shelves white before you put them in.

5:If you ever want to comfortably sit or stand at it and do work, do
NOT bring the shelves/ supports out as far as you do the Top. i.e
leave an overhang.

6:Leave your bottom horizontal support in the front, at least 6"/ 10cm
up from the floor, so that you can get a broom, your arm, & Vacuum
cleaner hose under there! Other wise you can't clean it up, it won't
roll when you want it too. On the up side you will always know WHERE
that screw that fell went.
jk
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Since my machines aren't being moved for at least a couple days I'm
going to spend the time making some rolling carts to replace most of
the benches in my shop. I have lots of 2 inch 1/8 wall square tubing
for the legs and plan on using 1x1x1/8 angle to make the shelf
supports and to tie it all together. 2 x3 feet is about the largest I
will be able to move around in the shop easily so that's my max size.
Any thoughts on shelf height and number? I will be using 3/8 ply for
the shelves with supports underneath. If I turn the angle up that
leaves a 1/2 inch tall lip. Think that's enough? Any advice?
Thanks,
Eric

A few thoughts (mostly from things I didn't do one time or another,
and wished I had).

1:I would think a 1/2" lip is more than enough to keep things from
rolling/ sliding off, but the raised lip can act as a guillotine edge
when placing something heavy on the shelf.

2:I would also consider adding some way of clamping or bolting the
carts together so that they can act as a single bench/table if needed.

3:Adjustable levelers or feet. Do not leave them sitting on whatever
you will use to make it roll.

4:Paint the underside of the shelves white before you put them in.

5:If you ever want to comfortably sit or stand at it and do work, do
NOT bring the shelves/ supports out as far as you do the Top. i.e
leave an overhang.

6:Leave your bottom horizontal support in the front, at least 6"/ 10cm
up from the floor, so that you can get a broom, your arm, & Vacuum
cleaner hose under there! Other wise you can't clean it up, it won't
roll when you want it too. On the up side you will always know WHERE
that screw that fell went.
jk

Greetings JK,
I took some of your advice and built the bottom shelves 6 inches
above the floor. The carts don't need to have levelers because they
will be rolling around on thick rubber mats. I have tested the mats
already with a prototype cart loaded with over 200 lbs. After sitting
all night the cart still rolled easily and the mat didn't indent. The
mats are "horse mats" that I but at the local farm supply. The
prototype cart has a lip around all the shelves. I don't like it so
much so I built the next two without lips on the top shelf. I still
need to build 4 more at least and at least one more will have the lip
on the top shelf for parts that like to roll around but I think most
carts will be lipless. Thanks for your thoughts.
Eric
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