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Interesting article on ammo for self defense.
http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_De..._FAQ/index.htm
For indoor use I wouldn't use a rifle unless I was 100% sure of backstop. The way my place sets I can shoot about 2 directions without a big problem, but the other two could cause neighbors to fire back !!! I have always liked a shotgun for indoors with a pistol as a get to the shotgun or easily portable weapon. For carry a VERY dependable handgun in a caliber that you can reliably shoot. Like I tell folks, Big bores are great for stopping power, BUT if you cannot shoot it well because of whatever reason you may as well grab a bat. -- Steve W. |
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Interesting article on ammo for self defense.
On Feb 26, 4:06*pm, "Steve W." wrote:
http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_De..._FAQ/index.htm For indoor use I wouldn't use a rifle unless I was 100% sure of backstop. The way my place sets I can shoot about 2 directions without a big problem, but the other two could cause neighbors to fire back !!! I have always liked a shotgun for indoors with a pistol as a get to the shotgun or easily portable weapon. For carry a VERY dependable handgun in a caliber that you can reliably shoot. Like I tell folks, Big bores are great for stopping power, BUT if you cannot shoot it well because of whatever reason you may as well grab a bat. -- Steve W. My favorite is the bullpup shotgun, easier to manage in confined quarters, harder to grab and take away. |
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Interesting article on ammo for self defense.
"Steve W." wrote in message ... http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_De..._FAQ/index.htm For indoor use I wouldn't use a rifle unless I was 100% sure of backstop. The way my place sets I can shoot about 2 directions without a big problem, but the other two could cause neighbors to fire back !!! I have always liked a shotgun for indoors with a pistol as a get to the shotgun or easily portable weapon. For carry a VERY dependable handgun in a caliber that you can reliably shoot. Like I tell folks, Big bores are great for stopping power, BUT if you cannot shoot it well because of whatever reason you may as well grab a bat. -- Steve W. __________________________________________________ _ One of the very best indoor SD weapons is a big-ass can of hornet spray. It will truly **** up an intruder yet wash off your walls. |
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Interesting article on ammo for self defense.
On 2/27/2012 9:31 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
"Steve W." wrote in message ... http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_De..._FAQ/index.htm For indoor use I wouldn't use a rifle unless I was 100% sure of backstop. The way my place sets I can shoot about 2 directions without a big problem, but the other two could cause neighbors to fire back !!! I have always liked a shotgun for indoors with a pistol as a get to the shotgun or easily portable weapon. For carry a VERY dependable handgun in a caliber that you can reliably shoot. Like I tell folks, Big bores are great for stopping power, BUT if you cannot shoot it well because of whatever reason you may as well grab a bat. They say that the measure of a man's intelligence is how well he agrees with you. It's nice to see someone who makes sense once in a while . |
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Interesting article on ammo for self defense.
Tom Gardner wrote: One of the very best indoor SD weapons is a big-ass can of hornet spray. It will truly **** up an intruder yet wash off your walls. That would be a violation of federal law, using the product in a manner inconsistent with it's labeling. Just shoot the SOB with a gun the correct legal way. |
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Interesting article on ammo for self defense.
Actually, not..... http://www.snopes.com/crime/prevent/waspspray.asp
This internet legend has been around for a bit too long. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Tom Gardner" wrote in message ... One of the very best indoor SD weapons is a big-ass can of hornet spray. It will truly **** up an intruder yet wash off your walls. |
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Interesting article on ammo for self defense.
On Feb 27, 10:31*pm, "Tom Gardner" wrote:
One of the very best indoor SD weapons is a big-ass can of hornet spray. *It will truly **** up an intruder yet wash off your walls. I agree with Richard, who said it very well. And now, on your suggestion, I just may pick up a can or two of hornet spray to keep around. Though I have (thankfully) never needed to use such stuff against hornets or humans, I have seen the local phone guys take out a hornet nest 20 feet up the pole while standing on the ground. Ought to be plenty powerful for indoor defense. |
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Interesting article on ammo for self defense.
On Feb 28, 7:30*am, "Pete C." wrote:
Tom Gardner wrote: One of the very best indoor SD weapons is a big-ass can of hornet spray.. *It will truly **** up an intruder yet wash off your walls. That would be a violation of federal law, using the product in a manner inconsistent with it's labeling. Just shoot the SOB with a gun the correct legal way. "Sorry, officer. I thought he was a bug." |
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Interesting article on ammo for self defense.
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:31:42 -0500, "Tom Gardner"
wrote: One of the very best indoor SD weapons is a big-ass can of hornet spray. It will truly **** up an intruder yet wash off your walls. ======================= I'm sceptical. I'm sure that if you get it in your eyes, it will burn. Like taking a head shot with a pistol, trying to hit someones eyes with the spray while under stress sounds like a long shot. It's something you could do if you had nothing else, but I think the likelihood is that you'd miss with the spray and since it doesn't make a bang, like a gun, the opponent is unlikely to be phased. If there's some documentation of its success, I'm all ears. RWL |
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Interesting article on ammo for self defense.
On 2/28/2012 8:01 PM, GeoLane at PTD dot NET wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:31:42 -0500, "Tom wrote: One of the very best indoor SD weapons is a big-ass can of hornet spray. It will truly **** up an intruder yet wash off your walls. ======================= I'm sceptical. I'm sure that if you get it in your eyes, it will burn. Like taking a head shot with a pistol, trying to hit someones eyes with the spray while under stress sounds like a long shot. It's something you could do if you had nothing else, but I think the likelihood is that you'd miss with the spray and since it doesn't make a bang, like a gun, the opponent is unlikely to be phased. If there's some documentation of its success, I'm all ears. RWL Dunno what you guys are doing with the attribution here.... Tom didn't say anything about bug spray. Neither did I. Tom simply said he would not use a rifle indoors for fear of his neighbors returning fire! And rightly so. That's exactly why I keep my little .380 by the bed. Also, there is little likelihood of me missing a head shot. It's more about which corner of which eye. If that seems unlikely to you, then may I suggest bug spray? |
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Interesting article on ammo for self defense.
Richard wrote: On 2/28/2012 8:01 PM, GeoLane at PTD dot NET wrote: On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:31:42 -0500, "Tom wrote: One of the very best indoor SD weapons is a big-ass can of hornet spray. It will truly **** up an intruder yet wash off your walls. ======================= I'm sceptical. I'm sure that if you get it in your eyes, it will burn. Like taking a head shot with a pistol, trying to hit someones eyes with the spray while under stress sounds like a long shot. It's something you could do if you had nothing else, but I think the likelihood is that you'd miss with the spray and since it doesn't make a bang, like a gun, the opponent is unlikely to be phased. If there's some documentation of its success, I'm all ears. RWL Dunno what you guys are doing with the attribution here.... Tom didn't say anything about bug spray. Neither did I. Tom simply said he would not use a rifle indoors for fear of his neighbors returning fire! And rightly so. That's exactly why I keep my little .380 by the bed. Also, there is little likelihood of me missing a head shot. It's more about which corner of which eye. If that seems unlikely to you, then may I suggest bug spray? Check the thread, you have it backwards. |
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Interesting article on ammo for self defense.
On 2/28/2012 9:04 PM, Pete C. wrote:
Richard wrote: On 2/28/2012 8:01 PM, GeoLane at PTD dot NET wrote: On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:31:42 -0500, "Tom wrote: One of the very best indoor SD weapons is a big-ass can of hornet spray. It will truly **** up an intruder yet wash off your walls. ======================= I'm sceptical. I'm sure that if you get it in your eyes, it will burn. Like taking a head shot with a pistol, trying to hit someones eyes with the spray while under stress sounds like a long shot. It's something you could do if you had nothing else, but I think the likelihood is that you'd miss with the spray and since it doesn't make a bang, like a gun, the opponent is unlikely to be phased. If there's some documentation of its success, I'm all ears. RWL Dunno what you guys are doing with the attribution here.... Tom didn't say anything about bug spray. Neither did I. Tom simply said he would not use a rifle indoors for fear of his neighbors returning fire! And rightly so. That's exactly why I keep my little .380 by the bed. Also, there is little likelihood of me missing a head shot. It's more about which corner of which eye. If that seems unlikely to you, then may I suggest bug spray? Check the thread, you have it backwards. Ok, I went back and checked. Tom's reply was below the sig line and got lopped off. Shame on you, Tom! |
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