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Zenni, my first bifocal
The order from 2/1/12 arrived, today, 2/21/12. They got the correct number,
and style of frames. A couple of them seem a bit stronger, a couple a bit weaker. I don't have a gadget to measure the correction. Who can tell? I did a primitive test of trying to read some text typed on a sheet, on the far wall. Maybe 16 point text, at 8 feet. The bifocals are a bit odd. The reading part is OK out to about 8 or 10 inches. Didn't actually measure. the distance lenses seem OK from maybe 10 inches, on out. The reason I've always had to get new glasses, is hard time reading the street name signs on the poles "MAIN STREET" and the other street. Will have to go take a drive, and see if these are any better. For the price, I can't compain too much. Would be nice if the reading focuss part was in focuss to my fingers on the computer, at least. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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Zenni, my first bifocal
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:37:15 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: The order from 2/1/12 arrived, today, 2/21/12. They got the correct number, and style of frames. A couple of them seem a bit stronger, a couple a bit weaker. I don't have a gadget to measure the correction. Who can tell? I did a primitive test of trying to read some text typed on a sheet, on the far wall. Maybe 16 point text, at 8 feet. The bifocals are a bit odd. The reading part is OK out to about 8 or 10 inches. Didn't actually measure. the distance lenses seem OK from maybe 10 inches, on out. The reason I've always had to get new glasses, is hard time reading the street name signs on the poles "MAIN STREET" and the other street. Will have to go take a drive, and see if these are any better. For the price, I can't compain too much. Would be nice if the reading focuss part was in focuss to my fingers on the computer, at least. With my eyes, that's the hard part. Reading corrections are too strong for computer use, and vice versa. So I have computer glasses and reading glasses. I also have some $880 progressives, which are good for shopping and little else. They will cover anything in a pinch, but these are the best you can get, and they have real limitations. If you're tempted to go for progressives, check in first. -- Ed Huntress Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . |
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Zenni, my first bifocal
On Feb 21, 4:44*pm, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:37:15 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: The order from 2/1/12 arrived, today, 2/21/12. They got the correct number, and style of frames. A couple of them seem a bit stronger, a couple a bit weaker. I don't have a gadget to measure the correction. Who can tell? I did a primitive test of trying to read some text typed on a sheet, on the far wall. Maybe 16 point text, at 8 feet. The bifocals are a bit odd. The reading part is OK out to about 8 or 10 inches. Didn't actually measure. the distance lenses seem OK from maybe 10 inches, on out. The reason I've always had to get new glasses, is hard time reading the street name signs on the poles "MAIN STREET" and the other street. Will have to go take a drive, and see if these are any better. For the price, I can't compain too much. Would be nice if the reading focuss part was in focuss to my fingers on the computer, at least. With my eyes, that's the hard part. Reading corrections are too strong for computer use, and vice versa. So I have computer glasses and reading glasses. I also have some $880 progressives, which are good for shopping and little else. They will cover anything in a pinch, but these are the best you can get, and they have real limitations. If you're tempted to go for progressives, check in first. -- Ed Huntress I have two different progressive prescriptions. One "regular" pair, with the distance part at infinity, and one "computer" pair, with the distance part at screen distance. I have tried regular bifocals and I couldn't stand them. I'm lost without the progressives. I have ordered (and it will be here in a few days) a set of trial lenses and a trial frame. I've never been totally satisfied that the prescriptions I've gotten at the eye doctor have been as good as they could be. That's especially so for the computer glasses, for which the doctor never asked how far it is to my monitor. I intend to make up prescriptions for new glasses for working at the computer, watching TV, working on the lathe, driving, reading and any other tasks I can think of that require vision at different distances. I'll also make a pair of magnified (3x or 4x) lenses for close-up work (I do some pretty tiny electronics). The progressives I've bought from Zenni (about 80 bucks, all up) are as good as or better than the $800+ glasses I've bought from the local "specialist," and that includes a pair I had made with name-brand Varilux lenses. Furthermore, most health insurers no longer cover the refraction (prescription) part of an eye exam. They only cover the medical part. THe last time I went, it was $60 to get a new, almost good, prescription. Between my wife and me, the trial lenses will have paid for themselves very quickly. |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:08:09 -0800 (PST), rangerssuck
wrote: On Feb 21, 4:44*pm, Ed Huntress wrote: On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:37:15 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: The order from 2/1/12 arrived, today, 2/21/12. They got the correct number, and style of frames. A couple of them seem a bit stronger, a couple a bit weaker. I don't have a gadget to measure the correction. Who can tell? I did a primitive test of trying to read some text typed on a sheet, on the far wall. Maybe 16 point text, at 8 feet. The bifocals are a bit odd. The reading part is OK out to about 8 or 10 inches. Didn't actually measure. the distance lenses seem OK from maybe 10 inches, on out. The reason I've always had to get new glasses, is hard time reading the street name signs on the poles "MAIN STREET" and the other street. Will have to go take a drive, and see if these are any better. For the price, I can't compain too much. Would be nice if the reading focuss part was in focuss to my fingers on the computer, at least. With my eyes, that's the hard part. Reading corrections are too strong for computer use, and vice versa. So I have computer glasses and reading glasses. I also have some $880 progressives, which are good for shopping and little else. They will cover anything in a pinch, but these are the best you can get, and they have real limitations. If you're tempted to go for progressives, check in first. -- Ed Huntress I have two different progressive prescriptions. One "regular" pair, with the distance part at infinity, and one "computer" pair, with the distance part at screen distance. I have tried regular bifocals and I couldn't stand them. I'm lost without the progressives. I've he;ard that the "computer" progressives are very nice. Mine are all-'round types. The "corridor," as they call it, is narrow for my wide peripheral vision, even though these glasses are reputed to have the broadest corridor of any. I have ordered (and it will be here in a few days) a set of trial lenses and a trial frame. I've never been totally satisfied that the prescriptions I've gotten at the eye doctor have been as good as they could be. That's especially so for the computer glasses, for which the doctor never asked how far it is to my monitor. I intend to make up prescriptions for new glasses for working at the computer, watching TV, working on the lathe, driving, reading and any other tasks I can think of that require vision at different distances. I'll also make a pair of magnified (3x or 4x) lenses for close-up work (I do some pretty tiny electronics). The progressives I've bought from Zenni (about 80 bucks, all up) are as good as or better than the $800+ glasses I've bought from the local "specialist," and that includes a pair I had made with name-brand Varilux lenses. Mine are Varilux Physio polycarbonate. They're slick, but I still don't like the narrow corridor I've seen with all the progressives I've tried. Furthermore, most health insurers no longer cover the refraction (prescription) part of an eye exam. They only cover the medical part. THe last time I went, it was $60 to get a new, almost good, prescription. Between my wife and me, the trial lenses will have paid for themselves very quickly. Good luck. For a while I had two optical insurance programs, which together paid for any glasses I wanted. Now I have one. I don't think I'll be going for Varilux again soon. d8-) -- Ed Huntress |
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On 2/21/2012 2:37 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
The order from 2/1/12 arrived, today, 2/21/12. They got the correct number, and style of frames. A couple of them seem a bit stronger, a couple a bit weaker. I don't have a gadget to measure the correction. Who can tell? I did a primitive test of trying to read some text typed on a sheet, on the far wall. Maybe 16 point text, at 8 feet. The bifocals are a bit odd. The reading part is OK out to about 8 or 10 inches. Didn't actually measure. the distance lenses seem OK from maybe 10 inches, on out. The reason I've always had to get new glasses, is hard time reading the street name signs on the poles "MAIN STREET" and the other street. Will have to go take a drive, and see if these are any better. For the price, I can't compain too much. Would be nice if the reading focuss part was in focuss to my fingers on the computer, at least. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . almost any eyeglass place will measure your glasses to see whether they're the correct prescription. |
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In article ,
Ed Huntress wrote: Mine are Varilux Physio polycarbonate. They're slick, but I still don't like the narrow corridor I've seen with all the progressives I've tried. I've got a pair of progressive lenses sitting in some nice frames. Waste of frames. If I blacked out all but a 2-3mm strip from top to bottom of the lenses they might be of some use (when wearing blinders was OK, which is not often.) The beer-goggle-bs going on at ether side is nauseating. That was a waste of money I won't make again. So, I have reading glasses, computer glasses, regular glasses, fiddly-work close-up glasses....perhaps I'll get frames that have a turret to rotate 4-5 different lenses into position. -- Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by Please don't feed the trolls. Killfile and ignore them so they will go away. |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:07:58 -0500, Ecnerwal
wrote: In article , Ed Huntress wrote: Mine are Varilux Physio polycarbonate. They're slick, but I still don't like the narrow corridor I've seen with all the progressives I've tried. I've got a pair of progressive lenses sitting in some nice frames. Waste of frames. If I blacked out all but a 2-3mm strip from top to bottom of the lenses they might be of some use (when wearing blinders was OK, which is not often.) The beer-goggle-bs going on at ether side is nauseating. That was a waste of money I won't make again. So, I have reading glasses, computer glasses, regular glasses, fiddly-work close-up glasses....perhaps I'll get frames that have a turret to rotate 4-5 different lenses into position. Ha-ha! Use M-codes and a pocket computer. I like your idea. Heck, I'm already wearing I don't know how many microprocessors, between the cell phone and the insulin pump. What's one more? d8-) -- Ed Huntress |
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Well, glad to hear you've had good results. I'm guessing thier customer
service will figure out a way to make it all good, for me. I figured out my reading Rx, and ordered a couple pair of reading glasses, in my last order. They arrived, and are just fine. They make excellent computer glasses. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "rangerssuck" wrote in message ... I have two different progressive prescriptions. One "regular" pair, with the distance part at infinity, and one "computer" pair, with the distance part at screen distance. I have tried regular bifocals and I couldn't stand them. I'm lost without the progressives. I have ordered (and it will be here in a few days) a set of trial lenses and a trial frame. I've never been totally satisfied that the prescriptions I've gotten at the eye doctor have been as good as they could be. That's especially so for the computer glasses, for which the doctor never asked how far it is to my monitor. I intend to make up prescriptions for new glasses for working at the computer, watching TV, working on the lathe, driving, reading and any other tasks I can think of that require vision at different distances. I'll also make a pair of magnified (3x or 4x) lenses for close-up work (I do some pretty tiny electronics). The progressives I've bought from Zenni (about 80 bucks, all up) are as good as or better than the $800+ glasses I've bought from the local "specialist," and that includes a pair I had made with name-brand Varilux lenses. Furthermore, most health insurers no longer cover the refraction (prescription) part of an eye exam. They only cover the medical part. THe last time I went, it was $60 to get a new, almost good, prescription. Between my wife and me, the trial lenses will have paid for themselves very quickly. |
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You're the second person to mention that, and thank you. I figure to take my
Zennis to an optician perhaps tomorrow, and ask them to put them on their gadget. It's possible the Zenni guys mixed up something, some how. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "chaniarts" wrote in message ... almost any eyeglass place will measure your glasses to see whether they're the correct prescription. |
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Ecnerwal wrote: I've got a pair of progressive lenses sitting in some nice frames. Waste of frames. If I blacked out all but a 2-3mm strip from top to bottom of the lenses they might be of some use (when wearing blinders was OK, which is not often.) The beer-goggle-bs going on at ether side is nauseating. That was a waste of money I won't make again. So, I have reading glasses, computer glasses, regular glasses, fiddly-work close-up glasses....perhaps I'll get frames that have a turret to rotate 4-5 different lenses into position. Don't forget the telephoto zoom lenses, with autofocus! ;-) -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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Zenni, my first bifocal
For trips to the beach?
Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... Don't forget the telephoto zoom lenses, with autofocus! ;-) -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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Stormin Mormon wrote: For trips to the beach? For reading street signs a block or two away. You'd scare off all the beach bunnes with those glasses. -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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On Feb 21, 6:46*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: You're the second person to mention that, and thank you. I figure to take my Zennis to an optician perhaps tomorrow, and ask them to put them on their gadget. It's possible the Zenni guys mixed up something, some how. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus *www.lds.org . "chaniarts" wrote in message ... almost any eyeglass place will measure your glasses to see whether they're the correct prescription. Of course, you're assuming that your prescription was correct in the first place. At least once, I'm absolutely sure that my prescription was written down wrong. I had two (very expensive) pairs of glasses made from that prescription, at two different opticians. Both had the same problem. In the left eye, the astigmatism angle was wrong - I could see much more clearly if I rotated the lens about 30 degrees. |
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Zenni, my first bifocal "taint not rot!"
RCM only
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:44:46 -0800, CS wrote: On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:54:59 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: I took my Zennis out for a drive. There is fading daylight, but plenty enough to see. The bifocals I bought for "daily wear" are not strong enough to read street signs. Each time I'd had to buy new glasses, it was because I could not read street signs. I'd have to get close, a couple car lengths from the sign, before it was in focuss. Well, guess what, that's exactly what these glasses do. Not enough correction for me to read street signs. Not much benefit for my money. I have emailed the Zenni service email adress, and will let you know what I hear. And, I'm going to put my old eye glasses back on. Makes a person wonder if you were wearing your glasses when you entered the prescription on the Zenni site... Don't hold your breath. http://www.resellerratings.com/store...llareyeglasses Seems their customer service is very hit or miss. When I get around to it I'll give them a try. It's always a gamble buying from cut rate places like this, but for $20 or so it isn't the end of the world if it doesn't pan out. There's no substitute for a good pair of glasses, though. If they send the perfect pair, they'll be backups. I have Oakley's coming from an Ebay seller. I'll have my own shop put lenses in them. Oakley makes the best frames and optics I've ever seen. They're damn expensive, but frames on Ebay are fairly priced. Zenni is fairly priced. I just now ordered 3 sets of eyeglasses for a $76.95 total. Two pair of stainless steel bifocals and one stainless steel single vision. (my skin rots temples) Shipping was $4.95 and the third pair was free. This is my third shipment from Zenni and there have been two problems. The first was a stripped frame (lens fell out and the screw wouldn't tighten at all) and they sent a replacement at no charge. The second I didn't even have them fix. It's a loose lens in the pair I use on the computer. The lens was ground just a wee bit too heavily so I can feel it move a little in the frame when cleaning the lenses. It has never fallen out, so I ignore it. The last American eye doctor charged me over $550 for the same setup with Monel frames. -- Every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life are based on the labors of other men, living and dead, and that I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received and am still receiving. -- Albert Einstein |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:37:15 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: The order from 2/1/12 arrived, today, 2/21/12. They got the correct number, and style of frames. A couple of them seem a bit stronger, a couple a bit weaker. I don't have a gadget to measure the correction. Who can tell? I did a primitive test of trying to read some text typed on a sheet, on the far wall. Maybe 16 point text, at 8 feet. The bifocals are a bit odd. The reading part is OK out to about 8 or 10 inches. Didn't actually measure. the distance lenses seem OK from maybe 10 inches, on out. The reason I've always had to get new glasses, is hard time reading the street name signs on the poles "MAIN STREET" and the other street. Will have to go take a drive, and see if these are any better. For the price, I can't compain too much. Would be nice if the reading focuss part was in focuss to my fingers on the computer, at least. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . ================ Sounds like its time for computer glasses and reading glasses. Send Zini an email and they will calculate your reading and computer glasses correction from your prescription. I suggest getting a yellow tint for both the reading and computer glasses, particularly if you are working under fluorescent lighting. I got 50% yellow (slightly less dark than Kalichrome C shooting glasses) and this works well for me for both computer and reading glasses. -- Unka' George "Gold is the money of kings, silver is the money of gentlemen, barter is the money of peasants, but debt is the money of slaves" -Norm Franz, "Money and Wealth in the New Millenium" |
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