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On 2/3/2012 4:27 PM, technomaNge wrote:
Awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xohy9gWz7kk Bigger the caliber, the smaller the dick on the shooter. gummer will be looking for one of these. |
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On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:33:25 -0800, Robert Recton üt wrote:
On 2/3/2012 4:27 PM, technomaNge wrote: Awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xohy9gWz7kk Bigger the caliber, the smaller the dick on the shooter. gummer will be looking for one of these. Odd that my favorite is a .30 Gunner One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch |
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On 2/3/2012 7:43 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:33:25 -0800, Robert üt wrote: On 2/3/2012 4:27 PM, technomaNge wrote: Awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xohy9gWz7kk Bigger the caliber, the smaller the dick on the shooter. gummer will be looking for one of these. Odd that I can whistle "Wabash Cannonball" through my anus I'd say so. |
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technomaNge wrote:
Awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xohy9gWz7kk Why? What are the ballistics like? The range? Is there anything that this can kill that a .50 or a .30 can't with one shot? Keep in mind, you'll be getting back up off your ass after the first round misses, while your game/target runs for cover. -- Paul Hovnanian ------------------------------------------------------------------ Optimist: "The glass is half-full." Pessimist: "The glass is half-empty." Engineer: "The glass is twice as big as it needs to be." |
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"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote in message .. . technomaNge wrote: Awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xohy9gWz7kk Why? What are the ballistics like? The range? Is there anything that this can kill that a .50 or a .30 can't with one shot? Keep in mind, you'll be getting back up off your ass after the first round misses, while your game/target runs for cover. Paul Hovnanian The likely target would be an enraged bull WW1 tank. (They did have 'male' and 'female' versions) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_IV_tank http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lahti_L-39 For civilians those are just toys, of no more practical use than bass boats. Want to pack an even bigger gun? http://mjm.luckygunner.com/2011/02/1...-at-the-101st/ |
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On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 09:54:24 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
wrote: technomaNge wrote: Awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xohy9gWz7kk Why? What are the ballistics like? The range? Is there anything that this can kill that a .50 or a .30 can't with one shot? Yeah. The shooter. Keep in mind, you'll be getting back up off your ass after the first round misses, while your game/target runs for cover. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 09:54:24 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
wrote: technomaNge wrote: Awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xohy9gWz7kk Why? What are the ballistics like? The range? Is there anything that this can kill that a .50 or a .30 can't with one shot? Keep in mind, you'll be getting back up off your ass after the first round misses, while your game/target runs for cover. If...if it misses. Gunner One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch |
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Gunner Asch on Sat, 04 Feb 2012 13:15:26 -0800
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 09:54:24 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote: technomaNge wrote: Awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xohy9gWz7kk Why? What are the ballistics like? The range? Is there anything that this can kill that a .50 or a .30 can't with one shot? Keep in mind, you'll be getting back up off your ass after the first round misses, while your game/target runs for cover. If...if it misses. I'd have to say that the first few rounds one fires are likely to be "flyers" - as one learns to handle the recoil. But after that ... like the old Henry Martini in .45 - once you learn to handle it, those you shoot at will hurt more than you. -- pyotr Go not to the Net for answers, for it will tell you Yes and no. And you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers does it take to change a lightbulb. |
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On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 13:23:15 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote: Gunner Asch on Sat, 04 Feb 2012 13:15:26 -0800 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 09:54:24 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote: technomaNge wrote: Awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xohy9gWz7kk Why? What are the ballistics like? The range? Is there anything that this can kill that a .50 or a .30 can't with one shot? Keep in mind, you'll be getting back up off your ass after the first round misses, while your game/target runs for cover. If...if it misses. I'd have to say that the first few rounds one fires are likely to be "flyers" - as one learns to handle the recoil. But after that ... like the old Henry Martini in .45 - once you learn to handle it, those you shoot at will hurt more than you. Ayup. Watching the various videos, one can spot the guy or 3 that handles the recoil properly, leans in, takes the shot, recovers and would be ready to go again. No spazzing around, falling over backwards and so forth. And NOT the big guys either. Just some normal sized guys who obviously have put some rounds down range in the past. -- pyotr Go not to the Net for answers, for it will tell you Yes and no. And you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers does it take to change a lightbulb. One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch |
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"technomaNge" wrote in message ... Awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xohy9gWz7kk technomaNge Someone here or on rec.guns posted about a 2 or 4 ga. shotgun. Percussion cap, IIRC. So big and long, it took two guys to carry it. Steve |
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"Steve B" wrote in message .. . "technomaNge" wrote in message ... Awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xohy9gWz7kk Someone here or on rec.guns posted about a 2 or 4 ga. shotgun. Percussion cap, IIRC. So big and long, it took two guys to carry it. Steve http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punt_gun Like shooting sitting ducks. |
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On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 13:31:29 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote in message .. . technomaNge wrote: Awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xohy9gWz7kk Why? Aw, that's no big thing. I've shot a large 20mm ball from a matchlock rifle. It used an old barrel from a Vulcan cannon. What are the ballistics like? The range? Is there anything that this can kill that a .50 or a .30 can't with one shot? Keep in mind, you'll be getting back up off your ass after the first round misses, while your game/target runs for cover. Paul Hovnanian The likely target would be an enraged bull WW1 tank. (They did have 'male' and 'female' versions) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_IV_tank Ugh! Too slow, unreliable, costly to run, and underarmed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lahti_L-39 For civilians those are just toys, of no more practical use than bass boats. Now you're talkin'! Big boy's toys. Want to pack an even bigger gun? http://mjm.luckygunner.com/2011/02/1...-at-the-101st/ One might take down the black helicopters with one, eh? -- Energy and persistence alter all things. --Benjamin Franklin |
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On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 22:08:07 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message . .. "technomaNge" wrote in message ... Awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xohy9gWz7kk Someone here or on rec.guns posted about a 2 or 4 ga. shotgun. Percussion cap, IIRC. So big and long, it took two guys to carry it. Steve http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punt_gun Like shooting sitting ducks. Har! I guess the Brits _can_ still have a spot of fun, after all. This thread has me thinking about rereading John Ross' book _Unintended Consequences_ again. Lahtis and 4-bores, anyone? -- Energy and persistence alter all things. --Benjamin Franklin |
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On 2/4/2012 9:14 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 13:31:29 -0500, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: Aw, that's no big thing. I've shot a large 20mm ball from a matchlock rifle. It used an old barrel from a Vulcan cannon. Aw, that's no big thing. I've shot a 40mm grenade launcher... Anybody shoulder fired a 75 mm recoiless? |
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Gunner Asch on Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:41:53 -0800
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 13:23:15 -0800, pyotr filipivich wrote: Gunner Asch on Sat, 04 Feb 2012 13:15:26 -0800 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 09:54:24 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote: technomaNge wrote: Awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xohy9gWz7kk Why? What are the ballistics like? The range? Is there anything that this can kill that a .50 or a .30 can't with one shot? Keep in mind, you'll be getting back up off your ass after the first round misses, while your game/target runs for cover. If...if it misses. I'd have to say that the first few rounds one fires are likely to be "flyers" - as one learns to handle the recoil. But after that ... like the old Henry Martini in .45 - once you learn to handle it, those you shoot at will hurt more than you. Ayup. Watching the various videos, one can spot the guy or 3 that handles the recoil properly, leans in, takes the shot, recovers and would be ready to go again. No spazzing around, falling over backwards and so forth. And NOT the big guys either. Just some normal sized guys who obviously have put some rounds down range in the past. I figure if 150 pound, five foot six Brits can go through some two thousand rounds with a Henry Martini in one long engagement (Roakes Drift) and still function, it should not be all that difficult for "a grown man" to handle a .940 caliber rifle. Might take some practice, but hey, if they can handle a .75 caliber gun (aka a 12 gauge shotgun firing slugs), what's another .19 caliber? -- pyotr Go not to the Net for answers, for it will tell you Yes and no. And you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers does it take to change a lightbulb. |
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On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 13:31:29 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote in message .. . technomaNge wrote: Awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xohy9gWz7kk Why? What are the ballistics like? The range? Is there anything that this can kill that a .50 or a .30 can't with one shot? Keep in mind, you'll be getting back up off your ass after the first round misses, while your game/target runs for cover. Paul Hovnanian The likely target would be an enraged bull WW1 tank. (They did have 'male' and 'female' versions) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_IV_tank http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lahti_L-39 For civilians those are just toys, of no more practical use than bass boats. Want to pack an even bigger gun? http://mjm.luckygunner.com/2011/02/1...-at-the-101st/ The first mention of the Cone Zone G An actually pretty effective weapon when properly employed. And with a load of flechetts...nasty nasty nasty. I saw an entire NVA squad once..frozen in time. Stuck to trees..like wax figures. It was quite odd. Nice!..but odd... Gunner One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch |
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On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:23:22 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 22:08:07 -0500, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message ... "technomaNge" wrote in message ... Awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xohy9gWz7kk Someone here or on rec.guns posted about a 2 or 4 ga. shotgun. Percussion cap, IIRC. So big and long, it took two guys to carry it. Steve http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punt_gun Like shooting sitting ducks. Har! I guess the Brits _can_ still have a spot of fun, after all. This thread has me thinking about rereading John Ross' book _Unintended Consequences_ again. Lahtis and 4-bores, anyone? This year..early..will be a VERY good time to read that book. So you know what and who to do when the time comes later in the year. Gunner One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch |
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"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message I figure if 150 pound, five foot six Brits can go through some two thousand rounds with a Henry Martini in one long engagement (Roakes Drift) and still function, it should not be all that difficult for "a grown man" to handle a .940 caliber rifle. Might take some practice, but hey, if they can handle a .75 caliber gun (aka a 12 gauge shotgun firing slugs), what's another .19 caliber? Better a sore shoulder than an assegai through the gut. Heavy double rifles were said to kill at one end and maim at the other. jsw |
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On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 22:04:46 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote: But after that ... like the old Henry Martini in .45 - once you learn to handle it, those you shoot at will hurt more than you. Ayup. Watching the various videos, one can spot the guy or 3 that handles the recoil properly, leans in, takes the shot, recovers and would be ready to go again. No spazzing around, falling over backwards and so forth. And NOT the big guys either. Just some normal sized guys who obviously have put some rounds down range in the past. I figure if 150 pound, five foot six Brits can go through some two thousand rounds with a Henry Martini in one long engagement (Roakes Drift) and still function, it should not be all that difficult for "a grown man" to handle a .940 caliber rifle. Might take some practice, but hey, if they can handle a .75 caliber gun (aka a 12 gauge shotgun firing slugs), what's another .19 caliber? -- pyotr Indeed. Though there is a huge difference between a 45/577 firing black powder or cordite and that .950...but shrug.... Gunner One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch |
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When I worked for a small outfit in the late 70's, I went to a customer
that was located in the blue ridge valleys. Way up. They were an REA Co-oP. The guys and gals made rifles in the shop 'to keep their skill up'. One of the men had just finished his .50 black power gun and the other supervisor was working on a tree gun. He was making a 1.00 a 100 cal black power gun. The work at this time was on the stock. The assembly was already tested on a sled. There was work going on at a fever pitch to get the stock milled out just right so there would be enough 'meat' to hold the assembly and barrel. A tree would act as the shoulder. The shooter would be prone near 90 degree angle to the barrel - putting the eye where it needs and not to take the kick back. Martin On 2/4/2012 3:15 PM, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 09:54:24 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote: technomaNge wrote: Awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xohy9gWz7kk Why? What are the ballistics like? The range? Is there anything that this can kill that a .50 or a .30 can't with one shot? Keep in mind, you'll be getting back up off your ass after the first round misses, while your game/target runs for cover. If...if it misses. Gunner One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch |
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Gunner Asch on Sun, 05 Feb 2012 15:13:37 -0800
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 22:04:46 -0800, pyotr filipivich wrote: But after that ... like the old Henry Martini in .45 - once you learn to handle it, those you shoot at will hurt more than you. Ayup. Watching the various videos, one can spot the guy or 3 that handles the recoil properly, leans in, takes the shot, recovers and would be ready to go again. No spazzing around, falling over backwards and so forth. And NOT the big guys either. Just some normal sized guys who obviously have put some rounds down range in the past. I figure if 150 pound, five foot six Brits can go through some two thousand rounds with a Henry Martini in one long engagement (Roakes Drift) and still function, it should not be all that difficult for "a grown man" to handle a .940 caliber rifle. Might take some practice, but hey, if they can handle a .75 caliber gun (aka a 12 gauge shotgun firing slugs), what's another .19 caliber? Indeed. Though there is a huge difference between a 45/577 firing black powder or cordite and that .950...but shrug.... "Details, details ..." -- pyotr Go not to the Net for answers, for it will tell you Yes and no. And you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers does it take to change a lightbulb. |
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"Kevin(Bluey)" wrote in message . au... On 2/5/2012 3:34 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote: I figure if 150 pound, five foot six Brits can go through some two thousand rounds with a Henry Martini in one long engagement (Roakes Drift) and still function, That would be Rourkes Drift. Kevin (Bluey) "I'm not young enough to know everything." Rorke's Drift The film is "Zulu". "Zulu Dawn" shows the nearly simultaneous battle of Isandlwana. http://www.amazon.com/Washing-Spears.../dp/0306808668 It's an excellent book if you can get through some of the necessarily tedious detail. AFAIK it's the only documented instance of a strong ruler forming a powerful military empire out of a diffuse subsistence economy, all others occurred in dim ancient prehistory. The short version: http://www.casebook.org/dissertations/dst-africa.html One of the participants inspired "the very model of a modern Major-General" in The Pirates of Penzance" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garnet_...count_Wolseley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSGWoXDFM64 Kevin Kline was superb as the Pirate King. jsw |
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