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Onan Engine, Lincoln Welder, good deal, fixable?
Saw this on Craigslist, not sure if it's a bargain or something to stay away
from. http://carbondale.craigslist.org/tls/2720575337.html I pass thru this town daily on my way to/from work. I figure if it's a great deal it's probably already gone, but I can check. RogerN |
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Onan Engine, Lincoln Welder, good deal, fixable?
Don't know for that era/model. In some of the later (unless that one's
just beat on to look old) models I'm sure that "runs but doesn't weld" is probably uneconomical to fix due to the way the electronics are done/priced - the sort of thing that becomes dubious to fix as soon as it's out of warranty due to overpriced parts and having to replace a large assembly to replace one or two failed parts. I got one of those fixed under warranty (just) and it was a relief that I wasn't paying for all the parts & the head scratching time as the guy (thinking to make a quick repair while I waited) swapped out every board he had a spare for with no effect, and then sent me on my way as he ordered the main board for it, and it was sent back to my local branch a week later. In general, I now know that (for gasoline models) the Kohler engine ones are better - not only longer life, but longer service intervals and better fuel economy (though I also now know to shop for a diesel if concerned in the slightest way with fuel economy in a generator/welder.) -- Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by Please don't feed the trolls. Killfile and ignore them so they will go away. |
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Onan Engine, Lincoln Welder, good deal, fixable?
On 2011-11-26, RogerN wrote:
Saw this on Craigslist, not sure if it's a bargain or something to stay away from. http://carbondale.craigslist.org/tls/2720575337.html I pass thru this town daily on my way to/from work. I figure if it's a great deal it's probably already gone, but I can check. A typical easy to fix problem with those are bad brushes on the generator. I would consider at $200. i |
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Onan Engine, Lincoln Welder, good deal, fixable?
On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 20:22:22 -0600, "RogerN"
wrote: Saw this on Craigslist, not sure if it's a bargain or something to stay away from. http://carbondale.craigslist.org/tls/2720575337.html I pass thru this town daily on my way to/from work. I figure if it's a great deal it's probably already gone, but I can check. RogerN You should stop by there and take a look at it anyway. The repair might be something simple and cheap that he has missed. Then offer him $225 for it and tell him you'll have to repair it to make it weld. He may be looking to just dump it and take a really low bid on it. You may be able to fix the boards yourself if you have a little electronics background and can find the schematics online. If you can fix it pretty inexpensively, that will make a nice machine. Dave |
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Onan Engine, Lincoln Welder, good deal, fixable?
"RogerN" wrote in message m... Saw this on Craigslist, not sure if it's a bargain or something to stay away from. http://carbondale.craigslist.org/tls/2720575337.html I pass thru this town daily on my way to/from work. I figure if it's a great deal it's probably already gone, but I can check. RogerN I bought one new, and it ran and ran and ran. Others said they had nothing but problems. But that was from new. It's a coin flip as to whether this one is a good one or not. What's that phrase there "runs good but does not weld"? I'd take a look at that and maybe rethink, unless you are going to use it for a straight emergency generator or such. Steve |
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Onan Engine, Lincoln Welder, good deal, fixable?
wrote in You may be able to fix the boards yourself if you have a little electronics background and can find the schematics online. If you can fix it pretty inexpensively, that will make a nice machine. Dave Had one from new, and it's a DAMN nice machine. Yes, if it can be revived for a good price, it would be a good deal. Just keep up with the maintenance ...... oil, filter, air filters, etc, just as you would for any fine machine. Funny, but they last a lot longer that way. It is nice that it said there are some rebuilt parts on there, although one can only hope the repairs were done right. But they are not that complicated. Steve |
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Onan Engine, Lincoln Welder, good deal, fixable?
"Ignoramus32097" wrote in message
... A typical easy to fix problem with those are bad brushes on the generator. I would consider at $200. i I don't know if this is right, but I'm thinking for the money, I could attempt to fix the welder, if it's too expensive I could part it or scrap the welder part (copper windings?) and get a generator to use with the Onan engine. I don't do much welding away from electrical power but it would be nice to have a good generator. RogerN |
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Onan Engine, Lincoln Welder, good deal, fixable?
"RogerN" wrote in message m... "Ignoramus32097" wrote in message ... A typical easy to fix problem with those are bad brushes on the generator. I would consider at $200. i I don't know if this is right, but I'm thinking for the money, I could attempt to fix the welder, if it's too expensive I could part it or scrap the welder part (copper windings?) and get a generator to use with the Onan engine. I don't do much welding away from electrical power but it would be nice to have a good generator. RogerN Keep in mind the engine will have a tapered output shaft. About all the engine is good for is a generator or welder, unless you can machine an adaptor. Greg O |
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Onan Engine, Lincoln Welder, good deal, fixable?
On 2011-11-27, RogerN wrote:
"Ignoramus32097" wrote in message ... A typical easy to fix problem with those are bad brushes on the generator. I would consider at $200. i I don't know if this is right, but I'm thinking for the money, I could attempt to fix the welder, if it's too expensive I could part it or scrap the welder part (copper windings?) and get a generator to use with the Onan engine. I don't do much welding away from electrical power but it would be nice to have a good generator. So, did you contact the seller? i |
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Onan Engine, Lincoln Welder, good deal, fixable?
I'm no welder expert, but that engine driven basic AC or maybe AC/DC welder
doesn't look like it would need/have any sophisticated electronics mounted on expensive circuit boards. When considering a multi-function stick AC/DC and MIG-TIG welder, there will be a higher likelyhood of some authorized repair center involvement. As far as the generator condition, I'd be especially interested in examining the condition of the armature's commutator bars, or any signs of overheated/burned wiring in the rig. -- WB .......... "RogerN" wrote in message m... Saw this on Craigslist, not sure if it's a bargain or something to stay away from. http://carbondale.craigslist.org/tls/2720575337.html I pass thru this town daily on my way to/from work. I figure if it's a great deal it's probably already gone, but I can check. RogerN |
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Onan Engine, Lincoln Welder, good deal, fixable?
"Ignoramus10577" wrote in message
... So, did you contact the seller? i Not yet, it looks like a pretty good buy to me, especially if they'd take $200 for it. I'm just not too excited about it because I don't have much of a place to put it or work on it, and I have plenty of projects. If I get a chance to call about it from work during break, I may take a look at it if the seller is home at that time. If it worked out I'd drive my truck to work and get it on the way home, but I really need to get my forklift running first so I can move it to get the welder in the shop door. Then I probably wouldn't work on it because my shop is at my old house 5 miles away. I'd like to have a shop here but it's going to cost around $18k for a 30 X 50 pole building with concrete floor, then a few thousand to get power to the building and get it wired. I'm 48 and am undecided about spending versus paying off everything, I'd like to have everything paid for to leave my wife in descent shape financially when I'm gone. This diabetes has been too difficult to control, I don't think I have many years left and don't know how many I'll be able to continue working. On the other hand I'd like to teach my son about machining, CNC, and electrical controls, it could benefit him in the future so maybe he won't have to flip burgers or bag groceries. Child support has left me devastated and I don't think I have enough life left to ever recover. If I don't go into any more debt I can pay off everything in about 5 years, but my house needs a floor and a roof, auto's need serviced, etc... RogerN |
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Onan Engine, Lincoln Welder, good deal, fixable?
On 2011-11-28, RogerN wrote:
"Ignoramus10577" wrote in message ... So, did you contact the seller? i Not yet, it looks like a pretty good buy to me, especially if they'd take $200 for it. I'm just not too excited about it because I don't have much of a place to put it or work on it, and I have plenty of projects. If I get a chance to call about it from work during break, I may take a look at it if the seller is home at that time. If it worked out I'd drive my truck to work and get it on the way home, but I really need to get my forklift running first so I can move it to get the welder in the shop door. Then I probably wouldn't work on it because my shop is at my old house 5 miles away. I'd like to have a shop here but it's going to cost around $18k for a 30 X 50 pole building with concrete floor, then a few thousand to get power to the building and get it wired. I'm 48 and am undecided about spending versus paying off everything, I'd like to have everything paid for to leave my wife in descent shape financially when I'm gone. This diabetes has been too difficult to control, I don't think I have many years left and don't know how many I'll be able to continue working. On the other hand I'd like to teach my son about machining, CNC, and electrical controls, it could benefit him in the future so maybe he won't have to flip burgers or bag groceries. Child support has left me devastated and I don't think I have enough life left to ever recover. If I don't go into any more debt I can pay off everything in about 5 years, but my house needs a floor and a roof, auto's need serviced, etc... RogerN Roger, I would buy it for $200, fix it and sell right away. If it cannot be easily fixed (read 3-4 hours), I would scrap the generator and sell the Onan engine. I would not drag this on for long, at $200 it is a winner either way. i |
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