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Competitive Cyclist Reviews SRAM XX Dome Cassette:

http://www.youtube.com/user/competit...98/ki24L0UHaEE

Video says this takes 9 hours to completely machine. That has got to
be a real piece of programming and a tricky batch of tooling.
Beautiful part though.
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On 10/25/2011 7:50 PM, lid wrote:
Competitive Cyclist Reviews SRAM XX Dome Cassette:

http://www.youtube.com/user/competit...98/ki24L0UHaEE

Video says this takes 9 hours to completely machine. That has got to
be a real piece of programming and a tricky batch of tooling.
Beautiful part though.
Dave


That was indeed a nice piece of work!
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On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:50:34 -0400, lid wrote:

Competitive Cyclist Reviews SRAM XX Dome Cassette:

http://www.youtube.com/user/competit...98/ki24L0UHaEE

Video says this takes 9 hours to completely machine. That has got to
be a real piece of programming and a tricky batch of tooling.
Beautiful part though.
Dave


Thats hardly a 9 hour part. Unless the guys are doing it with a manual
mill. In fact..on any modern machine..Id be surprised if it took 30
minutes at most.

Just a 4th axis and a pair of custom vise "jaws" and off you go.

Might be better to rough on a lathe, then do the detail work on a mill.


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On 10/26/2011 12:13 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:50:34 -0400, lid wrote:

Competitive Cyclist Reviews SRAM XX Dome Cassette:

http://www.youtube.com/user/competit...98/ki24L0UHaEE

Video says this takes 9 hours to completely machine. That has got to
be a real piece of programming and a tricky batch of tooling.
Beautiful part though.
Dave


Thats hardly a 9 hour part. Unless the guys are doing it with a manual
mill. In fact..on any modern machine..Id be surprised if it took 30
minutes at most.

Just a 4th axis and a pair of custom vise "jaws" and off you go.

Might be better to rough on a lathe, then do the detail work on a mill.


Gunner



I dunno, babe.
Did you catch the taper on the teeth?
Not just the recurved profile, but the Z axis taper?
It looked different facial/distal.

And all the undercutting to remove so much of the weight.

I seriously doubt that was done by hand...



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On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 01:06:48 -0500, Richard
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On 10/26/2011 12:13 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:50:34 -0400, lid wrote:

Competitive Cyclist Reviews SRAM XX Dome Cassette:

http://www.youtube.com/user/competit...98/ki24L0UHaEE

Video says this takes 9 hours to completely machine. That has got to
be a real piece of programming and a tricky batch of tooling.
Beautiful part though.
Dave


Thats hardly a 9 hour part. Unless the guys are doing it with a manual
mill. In fact..on any modern machine..Id be surprised if it took 30
minutes at most.

Just a 4th axis and a pair of custom vise "jaws" and off you go.

Might be better to rough on a lathe, then do the detail work on a mill.


Gunner



I dunno, babe.
Did you catch the taper on the teeth?
Not just the recurved profile, but the Z axis taper?
It looked different facial/distal.

And all the undercutting to remove so much of the weight.

I seriously doubt that was done by hand...


How many cutters do you need with that taper ground into them? I have a
guy who does form tooling very very nicely.

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On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 01:06:48 -0500, Richard
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On 10/26/2011 12:13 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
Thats hardly a 9 hour part. Unless the guys are doing it with a manual
mill. In fact..on any modern machine..Id be surprised if it took 30
minutes at most.

Just a 4th axis and a pair of custom vise "jaws" and off you go.

Might be better to rough on a lathe, then do the detail work on a mill.
Gunner


I dunno, babe.
Did you catch the taper on the teeth?
Not just the recurved profile, but the Z axis taper?
It looked different facial/distal.

And all the undercutting to remove so much of the weight.

I seriously doubt that was done by hand...


No way was that done by hand. You'd end up with 90% scrap parts.
That's why CNC was invented in the first place: to remove operator
error from the machining process.

And look at the through hole weight saving material removal between
sprockets. They appear to have about a 32nd or a 16th of an inch
radius in the corners. This will require an equally small milling tool
to produce. With such small tools, feed speeds will be very low to
prevent tool breakage. And there are LOTS of them.

I can see where they probably roughed it out and bored the center hole
on a lathe. Makes sense to true it up with a good facing vs. the bore
placement.

The vid said it took 9 hours on the mill. This may be what the sales
rep told the video guys. He may, or may not, have been completely
accurate on the time factor.

Cool part though.
Dave
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