"Harold & Susan Vordos" wrote in message
.. .

"Obama's Fake SSAN" wrote in message
...
An Air Force staff sergeant based in Germany says he's been AWOL
since last week because he read on the Internet that President
Barack Obama's long form birth certificate is a fraud.
snip----

I firmly believe the earth is flat.

Harold

I firmly agree with Harold. If it were round, you could put a tennis ball
on the ground, and it would roll to the edge and fall off. If doesn't get
any simpler than that.

I rest my case.

If a Kenyan citizen can be president of the United States of America, then
the world surely IS flat!

Steve

On 8/27/2011 1:33 PM, Steve B wrote:
"Harold& Susan wrote in message
.. .

"Obama's Fake wrote in message
...
An Air Force staff sergeant based in Germany says he's been AWOL
since last week because he read on the Internet that President
Barack Obama's long form birth certificate is a fraud.
snip----

I firmly believe the earth is flat.

Harold

I firmly agree with Harold. If it were round, you could put a tennis ball
on the ground, and it would roll to the edge and fall off. If doesn't get
any simpler than that.

I rest my case.

If a Kenyan citizen can be president of the United States of America, then
the world surely IS flat!

Steve



But neither of them happened, so all is well.

"Stuart Wheaton" wrote in message
...
On 8/27/2011 1:33 PM, Steve B wrote:
"Harold& Susan wrote in message
.. .

"Obama's Fake wrote in message
...
An Air Force staff sergeant based in Germany says he's been AWOL
since last week because he read on the Internet that President
Barack Obama's long form birth certificate is a fraud.
snip----

I firmly believe the earth is flat.

Harold

I firmly agree with Harold. If it were round, you could put a tennis
ball
on the ground, and it would roll to the edge and fall off. If doesn't
get
any simpler than that.

I rest my case.

If a Kenyan citizen can be president of the United States of America,
then
the world surely IS flat!

Steve



But neither of them happened, so all is well.


That's the way I see it.
How can people go on and on over a non-issue such as this?
My God, do these guys grasp how foolish we look to the balance of the world?
No damned wonder Americans are held in contempt by other nations.

Harold

On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 07:44:43 GMT, "Harold & Susan Vordos"
wrote:


"Stuart Wheaton" wrote in message
...
On 8/27/2011 1:33 PM, Steve B wrote:
"Harold& Susan wrote in message
.. .

"Obama's Fake wrote in message
...
An Air Force staff sergeant based in Germany says he's been AWOL
since last week because he read on the Internet that President
Barack Obama's long form birth certificate is a fraud.
snip----

I firmly believe the earth is flat.

Harold

I firmly agree with Harold. If it were round, you could put a tennis
ball
on the ground, and it would roll to the edge and fall off. If doesn't
get
any simpler than that.

I rest my case.

If a Kenyan citizen can be president of the United States of America,
then
the world surely IS flat!

Steve



But neither of them happened, so all is well.


That's the way I see it.
How can people go on and on over a non-issue such as this?
My God, do these guys grasp how foolish we look to the balance of the world?
No damned wonder Americans are held in contempt by other nations.

Harold

So Harold. Did the law get broken...or not? Your opinion of whats
important or not..really isnt of much concern.

As for the rest of the world..two ways to look at it.

1. The US may violate its own Constitutional requirements with no
penalty..meaning the Constitution is nothing more than a piece of paper.

2. The US is foolish enough to let a serious law be broken...hence it
may allow any and all laws be broken for the sake of ' Tidyness"

Your choice.

Now..Ive got this really nice bit of property Ill sell you with my very
own contract. Cheap too!

Though..I will change the terms at will, for my own benefit, at any
moment. After all...its just a piece of paper.


Gunner

--
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince".

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 07:44:43 GMT, "Harold & Susan Vordos"
wrote:


"Stuart Wheaton" wrote in message
...
On 8/27/2011 1:33 PM, Steve B wrote:
"Harold& Susan wrote in message
.. .

"Obama's Fake wrote in message
...
An Air Force staff sergeant based in Germany says he's been AWOL
since last week because he read on the Internet that President
Barack Obama's long form birth certificate is a fraud.
snip----

I firmly believe the earth is flat.

Harold

I firmly agree with Harold. If it were round, you could put a tennis
ball
on the ground, and it would roll to the edge and fall off. If doesn't
get
any simpler than that.

I rest my case.

If a Kenyan citizen can be president of the United States of America,
then
the world surely IS flat!

Steve



But neither of them happened, so all is well.


That's the way I see it.
How can people go on and on over a non-issue such as this?
My God, do these guys grasp how foolish we look to the balance of the
world?
No damned wonder Americans are held in contempt by other nations.

Harold

So Harold. Did the law get broken...or not? Your opinion of whats
important or not..really isnt of much concern.

As for the rest of the world..two ways to look at it.

1. The US may violate its own Constitutional requirements with no
penalty..meaning the Constitution is nothing more than a piece of paper.

2. The US is foolish enough to let a serious law be broken...hence it
may allow any and all laws be broken for the sake of ' Tidyness"

Your choice.

Now..Ive got this really nice bit of property Ill sell you with my very
own contract. Cheap too!

Though..I will change the terms at will, for my own benefit, at any
moment. After all...its just a piece of paper.


Gunner


The problem, as I see it, is that there are accusations of laws being
broken-----but are they? Making a claim doesn't mean it's true. Is it?
Or is it something you hope to be true, but isn't?
Anyone with a hint of logic knows that Obama can't win a contest of proving
his birth. There's always going to be someone that denies any evidence
provided, as has proven to be the case. Some people simply can't (or
won't) accept evidence, finding fault that bolsters their position, right or
wrong. I may have commented previously, I have a neighbor like that.
He'll have nothing to do with anything that doesn't support that which he
chooses to believe, rejecting any evidence that doesn't support his
thoughts. That hardly makes him right.

This entire matter reminds me of one of the episodes on 60 Minutes, years
ago, where they did a story on theft at hotels. They had gone so far as
to film (hidden camera) a maid stealing. It clearly showed her taking
objects, yet, when confronted, her comment was "you got me wrong". Deny
the evidence, no matter how foolish it may appear to do so-----which gives
encouragement to those that hope it's not true.

This whole thing is really foolish. Don't you think that if there was any
credible evidence that Obama wasn't a legal citizen, or that he was a
Muslim, it would have been played to the hilt by the republican party? I
can't imagine them not seizing the opportunity---yet it hasn't happened.
Why is that?

Notice that it's just radical splinter groups that don't let it die?

Why would that be?

In my mind---it's because it isn't true. Nothing else makes sense.

Harold

Harold & Susan Vordos wrote:

The problem, as I see it, is that there are accusations of laws being
broken-----but are they? Making a claim doesn't mean it's true. Is it?
Or is it something you hope to be true, but isn't?
Anyone with a hint of logic knows that Obama can't win a contest of proving
his birth. There's always going to be someone that denies any evidence
provided, as has proven to be the case.


There are videos on Youtube where Obama denys it and says, "It's true.
I was born in Kenya."


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
snip----
They have managed to persuade people like you..middle America that it
really doesnt mean much if he actually wasnt there legally...but they
are the same people who have tried to show that the 2nd Amendment doesnt
mean what it says..for 60 yrs. So dont try to blow comforting smoke up
my ass....facts are indeed facts..no matter how much some wish they were
something else.


The real problem is being overlooked. That's the fact that virtually
everything that has been alleged hasn't been proven. Sure, you can
provides sites that bolster your position, but what about those that don't?
I didn't see any links included that would, yet I know they exist. What
that does (for me) is give me cause to look upon EVERYTHING that is alleged
to be untrue. I'm not able to sort things (nor are you), so I simply
ignore them. I am not in Obama's camp, no more than I was in Bush's camp.
Because I am ignorant of the truth, and know that I can't arrive at the
truth, I leave it alone. I did not vote for Obama. I also did not vote
for Bush. (Yes, I voted!).

The shortsightedness that appears to escape those that continue to beat to
death issues that have long since been abandoned is that it kills their
credibility. They will not be swayed, not by any amount of proof. It is a
waste of time to even attempt an understanding. They are single minded and
are not interested in the truth----they are interested in supporting their
position---nothing more---even if they are wrong. I do not look upon
people like that as being patriots. It becomes more and more apparent that
their actions accomplish little aside from keeping our entire society off
balance. Many would prefer the nation to fail than to admit they were
wrong. As I said, Obama can't win this one, but I'll be damned if I'll
contribute to his losing.

The previous paragraph should send a resounding message to you, Gunner. You
know that I am a friend---I do not say unkind things about you, not to your
face, and not behind your back. I have witnessed a never ending attack
upon you by several individuals (on RCM), many of which have asked you to
provide evidence of the things you claim (in reference to your personal
life---that you don't pay taxes, that you didn't serve in the military as
you claim, etc.. I'm sure you get the point). Hardly the same as a guy
that is president, but the principle is the same. Why should Obama respond
any differently than the way you choose to respond?

Do I think any the less of you because of the unfounded allegations leveled?
Of course not------and I still consider myself to be your friend.

Well, friend, I can't allow you to taint my thoughts about our president.
I remain neutral, waiting for the truth to be revealed. That isn't going to
happen by making accusations, then finding a web site somewhere that
supports the allegation. That's the sad truth about the net. You can find
supportive comments about anything you choose--including the flat earth.

Harold

"Edward A. Falk" wrote:

In article ?,
Michael A. Terrell ? wrote:
?
?Harold ? Susan Vordos wrote:
?
? There are videos on Youtube where Obama denys it and says, "It's true.
?I was born in Kenya."

Link?


I posted it here a few days ago.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 04:32:10 +0000 (UTC), (Edward A.
Falk) wrote:

In article ,
Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Harold & Susan Vordos wrote:

There are videos on Youtube where Obama denys it and says, "It's true.
I was born in Kenya."

Link?

Crom..you havent see it yet? And Big Momma has her own video where she
says he was Kenyan born as well

YouTube, type in "Obama born in Kenya".

Its not something anyone made up, its quite factual

Gunner

--
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince".

On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 04:29:54 GMT, "Harold & Susan Vordos"
wrote:


The real problem is being overlooked. That's the fact that virtually
everything that has been alleged hasn't been proven. Sure, you can
provides sites that bolster your position, but what about those that don't?


The sites that dont...keep refering back to the two released and
fraudulant birth certs. Period. The only thing besides reference to
those two frauds..offered up..is invective to anyone who believes the
frauds are frauds.

This is not bull****..but quite factual data.

Feel free to take 10 minutes and check it out for yourself

Gunner

--
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince".

On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 04:29:54 GMT, "Harold & Susan Vordos"
wrote:

Well, friend, I can't allow you to taint my thoughts about our president.
I remain neutral, waiting for the truth to be revealed.

Harold my friend..the truth HAS been revealed.

1. Both long and short form birth certs are fraudulant
2. Hawaii Governor himself says the birth certs cant be found
3. No one can certify that Obama was born in Hawaii
4. EVEN the Hawaii Democratic Party would NOT certify he was eligible
for candidency for president

That old friend..IS the truth.

Until the Left can provide something besides invective...it appears that
the President is in office....illegally.
And any bill, document or order he gives is both illegal and based on
fraud.


Gunner

--
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince".