"Liz Pendens" wrote

Sounds like a bulging disc. You will need to tighten your abdominal
muscles using excercises your chiropractor can advise. If the pain
doesn't go away and it becomes excrutiating, you can have your doctor
prescribe an epidural for temporary relief.

Epidurals have been suggested for me. One third of the people I talked to
said it made it worse. One third said it made it better. One third said it
made no difference. I don't like a one in three chance.

Steve

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On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 13:57:27 -0500, Ignoramus29059
wrote:


one direction. Then the pain suddenly became so severe that I could
barely walk. Barely made it to the couch, where I am right now,
totally out of commission.

WTF is wrong and does anyone have any idea if this will ever go away.

i

Muscle strains are far more common than herniated disks. It may be
better in a couple of days, or it may take a few weeks. Once
strained, you're at increased risk of having more of them. You don't
have to be lifting something at the time to have them occur. Mine
often occur the day AFTER I"ve been using my lower back muscles more
than usual.

Those peel and stick hot packs, the giant version of what hunters use
to keep their hands warm are helpful. Also Doan's pills (manesium
salicylate instead of the usual sodium salicylate of aspirin) seem to
help more than aspirin.

Unless you've got numbness in a limb or weakness in a group of muscles
(can you stand on your toes on each foot, can you rock back on your
heel and hold your forefoot up?), it's not likely to be a herniated
disk.

RWL

On Apr 17, 10:34*pm, GeoLane at PTD dot NET GeoLane at PTD dot NET
wrote:

Unless you've got numbness in a limb or weakness in a group of muscles
(can you stand on your toes on each foot, can you rock back on your
heel and hold your forefoot up?), it's not likely to be a herniated
disk.

RWL

Not correct. You can have herniated discs with absolutely zero
symptoms.

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 20:13:56 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Apr 17, 10:34*pm, GeoLane at PTD dot NET GeoLane at PTD dot NET
wrote:

Unless you've got numbness in a limb or weakness in a group of muscles
(can you stand on your toes on each foot, can you rock back on your
heel and hold your forefoot up?), it's not likely to be a herniated
disk.

RWL

Not correct. You can have herniated discs with absolutely zero
symptoms.

Technically that may be correct since CT / MRI can pick up herniated
discs that are asymptomatic, but in Iggy's case he's symptomatic. Were
you intending to warn him that an abnormal CT or MRI doesn't
necessarily mean that it's that disk that's causing his symptoms?

RWL

On Apr 18, 10:59*pm, GeoLane at PTD dot NET GeoLane at PTD dot NET
wrote:
On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 20:13:56 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck

wrote:
On Apr 17, 10:34*pm, GeoLane at PTD dot NET GeoLane at PTD dot NET
wrote:

Unless you've got numbness in a limb or weakness in a group of muscles
(can you stand on your toes on each foot, can you rock back on your
heel and hold your forefoot up?), it's not likely to be a herniated
disk.

RWL

Not correct. You can have herniated discs with absolutely zero
symptoms.

Technically that may be correct since CT / MRI can pick up herniated
discs that are asymptomatic, but in Iggy's case he's symptomatic. Were
you intending to warn him that an abnormal CT or MRI doesn't
necessarily mean that it's that disk that's causing his symptoms?

RWL

I didn't suggest that he get a CT or MRI. Pretty much EVERYONE has
something wrong with their back, and those test really aren't very
useful except in exctreme cases or when you have a baseline picture to
compare to.

"Ignoramus29059" wrote in
message ...
This morning started out really great. I did not lift anything
heavy. Drove somewhere in my pickup to pick a tool box. When I got
out
of the truck, just after 30 minutes of driving, I had sudden back
pain
and could not stand up straight without some pain.

For the next 2 hours, I could function, move around and carry
things,
but with substantial discomfort.

Then I tried to turn a toolbox around, kind of pushed with one hand
in
one direction. Then the pain suddenly became so severe that I could
barely walk. Barely made it to the couch, where I am right now,
totally out of commission.

WTF is wrong and does anyone have any idea if this will ever go
away.

i

I:

Diagnosis by remote viewing exceeds my capacity.

But let me give you a reference that you will find
refreshingly analytical, systematic and on point.
Go to Amazon. Look for "The Back Book".
As there may be more than one claimant to
that simple title, look for the one with the highest
customer rating much as I am convicted that
the particular volume in question merits it.

You will see a review of particular problems,
discussion of therapies, rates of patient satisfaction
according to specialist type and procedures undergone,
excercises and techniques for injury prevention and
clear language without mystic claims or miracle
boosterism. If your digestion of the book fails my
recommendation, send me the bill for your
outlay.

My back is fine, though the temporary inspiration
in aftermath of hefting a 250 pound crate was a
significant driver to insure that it remains that way,
particulary after long witness of folks bent or wincing
with chronic pain.

Regards,

Edward Hennessey

On 4/17/2011 11:57 AM, Ignoramus29059 wrote:
This morning started out really great. I did not lift anything
heavy. Drove somewhere in my pickup to pick a tool box. When I got out
of the truck, just after 30 minutes of driving, I had sudden back pain
and could not stand up straight without some pain.

For the next 2 hours, I could function, move around and carry things,
but with substantial discomfort.

Then I tried to turn a toolbox around, kind of pushed with one hand in
one direction. Then the pain suddenly became so severe that I could
barely walk. Barely made it to the couch, where I am right now,
totally out of commission.

WTF is wrong and does anyone have any idea if this will ever go away.

i


Let me guess. You're over 40, right? Welcome to the new world of being
old. The back is one of the first things to go. After 40 your discs have
degenerated to the point where you will most likely have problems from
now on. It's not a matter of if but a matter of how often and how bad.
I've had a bad back for decades.

In your specific case you most likely have a disc bulge or what they
call a slipped disc, or a pinched nerve. But if you're lucky it's just a
muscular problem. The first thing you need to do is get yourself to a
chiropractor. Find a good one and he will be able to diagnose what your
problem is. But like I said, I have had a bad back for years so I know
what you're feeling. When your back goes out your life is over. If it's
bad enough you will not be able to do anything and you will feel very
bad pain. Sitting on the toilet can be torture.

You can rest, go to the doctor, put ice on it, but the chiropractor is
who to go see. Don't listen to people who tell you they don't help. They
do. The other thing you can do is get an inversion table. I've been
using one for the last 3 years and it has done wonders for my low back.
It's saved me thousands in chiropractor bills. Life with a bad back is
miserable. This is your first episode. You need to find a chiropractor
and get some treatment. Don't go to the doctor. All they do is tell you
to rest and give you muscle relaxers, which do you no good.

Hawke

I will second every last comment made by Hawke. The inversion table was one
of the biggest healers for my back. Fill up on water after inversion to feed
the disc rehydration.

Do the rest (of his techniques) but I added acupuncture to the list.
Acupuncture is a great pain relief and you should feel the difference in one
treatment. Stop if none is had (wasted money). Another I would add is
regular doses of Ibuprofen to lower the inflammation caused, along with the
ice packs. Give yourself a break from that (ibuprofen) every week, say on
Sundays to help save yourself from kidney failure.

Do it all and don't be a victim. You're not alone.

-----------------------


"Hawke" wrote in message ...
Let me guess. You're over 40, right? Welcome to the new world of being
old. The back is one of the first things to go. After 40 your discs have
degenerated to the point where you will most likely have problems from
now on. It's not a matter of if but a matter of how often and how bad.
I've had a bad back for decades.

In your specific case you most likely have a disc bulge or what they
call a slipped disc, or a pinched nerve. But if you're lucky it's just a
muscular problem. The first thing you need to do is get yourself to a
chiropractor. Find a good one and he will be able to diagnose what your
problem is. But like I said, I have had a bad back for years so I know
what you're feeling. When your back goes out your life is over. If it's
bad enough you will not be able to do anything and you will feel very
bad pain. Sitting on the toilet can be torture.

You can rest, go to the doctor, put ice on it, but the chiropractor is
who to go see. Don't listen to people who tell you they don't help. They
do. The other thing you can do is get an inversion table. I've been
using one for the last 3 years and it has done wonders for my low back.
It's saved me thousands in chiropractor bills. Life with a bad back is
miserable. This is your first episode. You need to find a chiropractor
and get some treatment. Don't go to the doctor. All they do is tell you
to rest and give you muscle relaxers, which do you no good.

Hawke

On Apr 19, 3:24*pm, "Josepi" wrote:
I will second every last comment made by Hawke. The inversion table was one
of the biggest healers for my back. Fill up on water after inversion to feed
the disc rehydration.

Do the rest (of his techniques) but I added acupuncture to the list.
Acupuncture is a great pain relief and you should feel the difference in one
treatment. Stop if none is had (wasted money). *Another I would add is
regular doses of Ibuprofen to lower the inflammation caused, along with the
ice packs. Give yourself a break from that (ibuprofen) *every week, say on
Sundays to help save yourself from kidney failure.

Do it all and don't be a victim. You're not alone.


A couple of other points:

1) If you are going to take Ibuprofen (or any other NSAID)(which works
to reduce the swelling that may be causing the pain) regularly, you
should also take some sort of stomach acid reducer. These things
cancause (without any warning) serious bleeding ulcers. I know two
people who puked up half their blood volume, with no prior stomach
symptoms.

2) If you're going to take Acetominphen (which works better on the
actual nerve pain) regularly, you should also take n-acetylcysteine -
an antioxidant which, among other things, protects your liver from the
acetominophen. It's what they give (in LARGE dosages) in the ER for
Tylenol overdose. You can find it at healf food stores or, as I did,
at the supermarket drug aisle.

2.5) You CAN take Ibuprofen and Acetominophen together. It's usually
recommended that you alternate the two, two hours apart.

3) You've received a lot of good advice here, and suprisingly, most of
it is consistent (with a few variations). But you need to realize that
NONE of us are doctors, none of us has examined your back (hell, few
of us have even met you). If you're not getting significant relief in
a few days, you really ought to see someone to help get this sorted
out.