I want to make a bunch of identical molds, for 3/4" diameter model
airplane wheels.

I'm envisioning a tool that's 3/8" across, that I just sharpen up, grit
my teeth, and push into a spinning piece of aluminum to make my desired
profile.

Is this a sensible thing to consider? Is there some other way (short of
CNC machining) to easily duplicate cavities in the ends of a bunch of
aluminum tubes?

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http://www.wescottdesign.com

On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:38:25 -0500, the renowned Tim Wescott
wrote:

I want to make a bunch of identical molds, for 3/4" diameter model
airplane wheels.

I'm envisioning a tool that's 3/8" across, that I just sharpen up, grit
my teeth, and push into a spinning piece of aluminum to make my desired
profile.

Is this a sensible thing to consider? Is there some other way (short of
CNC machining) to easily duplicate cavities in the ends of a bunch of
aluminum tubes?

Hobbing?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 23:08:55 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:38:25 -0500, the renowned Tim Wescott
wrote:

I want to make a bunch of identical molds, for 3/4" diameter model
airplane wheels.

I'm envisioning a tool that's 3/8" across, that I just sharpen up, grit
my teeth, and push into a spinning piece of aluminum to make my desired
profile.

Is this a sensible thing to consider? Is there some other way (short of
CNC machining) to easily duplicate cavities in the ends of a bunch of
aluminum tubes?

Hobbing?

P.S. Not the gear-making process, this one:

http://tinyurl.com/hobbing



Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 23:16:17 -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 23:08:55 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:38:25 -0500, the renowned Tim Wescott
wrote:

I want to make a bunch of identical molds, for 3/4" diameter model
airplane wheels.

I'm envisioning a tool that's 3/8" across, that I just sharpen up, grit
my teeth, and push into a spinning piece of aluminum to make my desired
profile.

Is this a sensible thing to consider? Is there some other way (short
of CNC machining) to easily duplicate cavities in the ends of a bunch
of aluminum tubes?

Hobbing?

P.S. Not the gear-making process, this one:

http://tinyurl.com/hobbing

Well, the cavity is cylindrically symmetrical, so I'm not sure that
"hobbing" is the right term.

It's probably been a screw machine operation since 1920, or at least some
sort of tracing operation.

Sigh -- I'm always behind the curve.

--
http://www.wescottdesign.com

"Tim Wescott" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 23:16:17 -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 23:08:55 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:38:25 -0500, the renowned Tim Wescott
wrote:

I want to make a bunch of identical molds, for 3/4" diameter model
airplane wheels.

I'm envisioning a tool that's 3/8" across, that I just sharpen up, grit
my teeth, and push into a spinning piece of aluminum to make my desired
profile.

Is this a sensible thing to consider? Is there some other way (short
of CNC machining) to easily duplicate cavities in the ends of a bunch
of aluminum tubes?

Hobbing?

P.S. Not the gear-making process, this one:

http://tinyurl.com/hobbing

Well, the cavity is cylindrically symmetrical, so I'm not sure that
"hobbing" is the right term.

It's probably been a screw machine operation since 1920, or at least some
sort of tracing operation.

Sigh -- I'm always behind the curve.

I must be dull tonight, but I can't visualize what you're doing. Are you
talking about some kind of forming in the axis of a spinning tube, or
turning the outside diameter to a profile?

--
Ed Huntress

On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 00:32:29 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:


"Tim Wescott" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 23:16:17 -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 23:08:55 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:38:25 -0500, the renowned Tim Wescott
wrote:

I want to make a bunch of identical molds, for 3/4" diameter model
airplane wheels.

I'm envisioning a tool that's 3/8" across, that I just sharpen up, grit
my teeth, and push into a spinning piece of aluminum to make my desired
profile.

Is this a sensible thing to consider? Is there some other way (short
of CNC machining) to easily duplicate cavities in the ends of a bunch
of aluminum tubes?

Hobbing?

P.S. Not the gear-making process, this one:

http://tinyurl.com/hobbing

Well, the cavity is cylindrically symmetrical, so I'm not sure that
"hobbing" is the right term.

It's probably been a screw machine operation since 1920, or at least some
sort of tracing operation.

Sigh -- I'm always behind the curve.

I must be dull tonight, but I can't visualize what you're doing. Are you
talking about some kind of forming in the axis of a spinning tube, or
turning the outside diameter to a profile?

Like ED, I'm not picturing your cut. That said, form tools up to 3/8
wide are no trouble on a lathe. For example, I cut a V groove in a
pulley for a V belt all the time.

This assumes your lathe is rigid enough for the cut.

Karl

On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 00:32:29 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote:

"Tim Wescott" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 23:16:17 -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 23:08:55 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:38:25 -0500, the renowned Tim Wescott
wrote:

I want to make a bunch of identical molds, for 3/4" diameter model
airplane wheels.

I'm envisioning a tool that's 3/8" across, that I just sharpen up,
grit my teeth, and push into a spinning piece of aluminum to make my
desired profile.

Is this a sensible thing to consider? Is there some other way (short
of CNC machining) to easily duplicate cavities in the ends of a bunch
of aluminum tubes?

Hobbing?

P.S. Not the gear-making process, this one:

http://tinyurl.com/hobbing

Well, the cavity is cylindrically symmetrical, so I'm not sure that
"hobbing" is the right term.

It's probably been a screw machine operation since 1920, or at least
some sort of tracing operation.

Sigh -- I'm always behind the curve.

I must be dull tonight, but I can't visualize what you're doing. Are you
talking about some kind of forming in the axis of a spinning tube, or
turning the outside diameter to a profile?


Let me know if you can see this, it should explain:

http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/...rum/index.php?
action=dlattach;topic=5869.0;attach=53766;image

I'm not so much interested in the flange around the outside as the wheel
profile on the inside.

Per Pete and Karl I guess I'm looking for a form tool, but one that gets
applied in the axial rather than the radial direction. I'm not so
interested in cutting the mating flanges -- that's both easy enough and
persnickety enough that I should do it by hand. It's getting the tire
and hub shapes cut repeatably that interests me.

So I guess the real question is: should I be able to do this with a form
tool, assuming enough rigidity in my lathe?

--
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Tim Wescott wrote:

I want to make a bunch of identical molds, for 3/4" diameter model
airplane wheels.

I'm envisioning a tool that's 3/8" across, that I just sharpen up, grit
my teeth, and push into a spinning piece of aluminum to make my desired
profile.

Is this a sensible thing to consider? Is there some other way (short of
CNC machining) to easily duplicate cavities in the ends of a bunch of
aluminum tubes?

--
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Are you referring to a lathe "form tool"? If so that's pretty standard
stuff.

On Apr 8, 10:38*pm, Tim Wescott wrote:
I want to make a bunch of identical molds, for 3/4" diameter model
airplane wheels.

I'm envisioning a tool that's 3/8" across, that I just sharpen up, grit
my teeth, and push into a spinning piece of aluminum to make my desired
profile.

Is this a sensible thing to consider? *Is there some other way (short of
CNC machining) to easily duplicate cavities in the ends of a bunch of
aluminum tubes?

--http://www.wescottdesign.com

A 3/8" wide tool shouldn't be too much for aluminum, if your lathe is
solid. I make forming tools to cut round or vee belt grooves in
pulleys somewhat narrow and wiggle them in so only the end or one side
takes a chip at any instant, reducing the forces and chatter.

jsw