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Driving northward past Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada, and coming straight at
us on final southerly approach, a C-130. Unknown if just a cargo carrier,
or a Spooky, but one big fat slow beautiful airplane. My wife saw it first
and quipped, "What the hell is that?" It takes a lot to get her attention.
I just said it was a weapons platform that you would not want looking for
you.

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Originally misposted to alt.home.repair, but hey, they liked it, too.

Driving northward past Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada, and coming straight
at
us on final southerly approach, a C-130. Unknown if just a cargo carrier,
or a Spooky, but one big fat slow beautiful airplane. My wife saw it
first
and quipped, "What the hell is that?" It takes a lot to get her
attention.
I just said it was a weapons platform that you would not want looking for
you.

Steve


My Dad was a wingnut (electronic instrument tech) back in the 1960s and he
was always impressed with the C130. Its ability to take off form a short
jungle field, its ability to fly with engines falling off, its incredible
lifting capacity, and its absolutely incredible reliability. Every time we
see one he comments on the plane. Since I live about a mile and a half from
a major marine corps air station we get to see them pretty often.

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Originally misposted to alt.home.repair, but hey, they liked it, too.

Driving northward past Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada, and coming straight
at
us on final southerly approach, a C-130. Unknown if just a cargo carrier,
or a Spooky, but one big fat slow beautiful airplane. My wife saw it
first
and quipped, "What the hell is that?" It takes a lot to get her
attention.
I just said it was a weapons platform that you would not want looking for
you.

Steve


My Dad was a wingnut (electronic instrument tech) back in the 1960s and he
was always impressed with the C130. Its ability to take off form a short
jungle field, its ability to fly with engines falling off, its incredible
lifting capacity, and its absolutely incredible reliability. Every time we
see one he comments on the plane. Since I live about a mile and a half from
a major marine corps air station we get to see them pretty often.


C-130 with JATO takeoff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLFB7q8tyd8

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On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:44:44 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
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"Steve B" wrote in message
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Originally misposted to alt.home.repair, but hey, they liked it, too.

Driving northward past Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada, and coming straight
at
us on final southerly approach, a C-130. Unknown if just a cargo carrier,
or a Spooky, but one big fat slow beautiful airplane. My wife saw it
first
and quipped, "What the hell is that?" It takes a lot to get her
attention.
I just said it was a weapons platform that you would not want looking for
you.

Steve

My Dad was a wingnut (electronic instrument tech) back in the 1960s and he
was always impressed with the C130. Its ability to take off form a short
jungle field, its ability to fly with engines falling off, its incredible
lifting capacity, and its absolutely incredible reliability. Every time we
see one he comments on the plane. Since I live about a mile and a half from
a major marine corps air station we get to see them pretty often.


C-130 with JATO takeoff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLFB7q8tyd8



Look up the C-130 carrier quals for interesting video!

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C-130 with JATO takeoff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLFB7q8tyd8


Damn, that's impressive.

Jon




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C-130 with JATO takeoff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLFB7q8tyd8



Look up the C-130 carrier quals for interesting video!

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That's gotta be a kick in the pants sensation when the rockets kick in.

I like watching gun camera stuff from Iraq and Afghanistan, and some of the
C-130 stuff they show is just incredible. I wouldn't want one of those
after me. We see all manner of aircraft at Nellis, but somehow, C-130's are
not common.

Steve

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Originally misposted to alt.home.repair, but hey, they liked it, too.

Driving northward past Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada, and coming straight
at
us on final southerly approach, a C-130. Unknown if just a cargo carrier,
or a Spooky, but one big fat slow beautiful airplane. My wife saw it
first
and quipped, "What the hell is that?" It takes a lot to get her
attention. I just said it was a weapons platform that you would not want
looking for you.

I once actually saw a C-130 backing up under its own power.

Cheers!
Rich

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On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:44:44 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
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"Steve B" wrote in message
.. .
Originally misposted to alt.home.repair, but hey, they liked it, too.

Driving northward past Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada, and coming straight
at
us on final southerly approach, a C-130. Unknown if just a cargo carrier,
or a Spooky, but one big fat slow beautiful airplane. My wife saw it
first
and quipped, "What the hell is that?" It takes a lot to get her
attention.
I just said it was a weapons platform that you would not want looking for
you.

Steve


My Dad was a wingnut (electronic instrument tech) back in the 1960s and he
was always impressed with the C130. Its ability to take off form a short
jungle field, its ability to fly with engines falling off, its incredible
lifting capacity, and its absolutely incredible reliability. Every time we
see one he comments on the plane. Since I live about a mile and a half from
a major marine corps air station we get to see them pretty often.


C-130 with JATO takeoff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLFB7q8tyd8


Or the more extraordinary C-130 with JACRASH landing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gXfK4ypirI

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and take the rest as it happens.
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Bob La Londe wrote:
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Originally misposted to alt.home.repair, but hey, they liked it, too.

Driving northward past Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada, and coming straight
at
us on final southerly approach, a C-130. Unknown if just a cargo
carrier,
or a Spooky, but one big fat slow beautiful airplane. My wife saw it
first
and quipped, "What the hell is that?" It takes a lot to get her
attention.
I just said it was a weapons platform that you would not want looking for
you.


My Dad was a wingnut (electronic instrument tech) back in the 1960s and
he
was always impressed with the C130. Its ability to take off form a short
jungle field, its ability to fly with engines falling off, its incredible
lifting capacity, and its absolutely incredible reliability. Every time
we
see one he comments on the plane. Since I live about a mile and a half
from a major marine corps air station we get to see them pretty often.


When I was in the USAF as an electronics countermeasures (or electronic
warfare, depending who you ask) tech, I saw a system that was under
development, called (I hope this is declassified by now - it's been
almost 40 years, after all!) a thing called a "spark-plug tracker."
It was a passive phased array antenna that could zero in on the electrical
noise from a "target," coupled to the gun turret.

They wound up not using it, because as soon as it zeroed in and told
the gun to fire, the recoil from the gun changed the trajectory of
the airplane, and the whole system almost guaranteed a miss.

Joke:
A Marine and an Air Force guy were peeing at the airport latrine. They
finished, the Marine headed for the sink, and the Air Force guy headed
for the door. The Marine said, "Hey flyboy! Don't they teach you to
wash your hands after you ****?" The Air Force guy said, "Nah, in the
Air Force they teach us not to **** on our hands."

True Story:
I was at the airport latrine, and my Dad (RIP), who was seeing me off with
the family, and I were peeing. My Dad headed for the door, and I said,
"Didn't Grandma teach you to wash your hands?" And Dear Old Dad said, "What
I was just holding on to wasn't dirty."

Cheers!
Rich

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C-130 with JATO takeoff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLFB7q8tyd8

There's an old UL about some guys who attached a JATO bottle to a car,
and splatted themselves into a mountainside.

This guy claims to be 99 percent sure he made it up in 1978; I'm 100
percent sure he didn't, because I first heard it in 1969.
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.08/rocketcar.html
;-)

Cheers!
Rich



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I once actually saw a C-130 backing up under its own power.

Most large turboprops can back up quite nicely with their props
in reverse thrust.

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Rich Grise wrote:

I once actually saw a C-130 backing up under its own power.

Most large turboprops can back up quite nicely with their props
in reverse thrust.

OK, no argument there. But this was in the late 1960's or early 1970's,
and I was in my early 20's, and (possibly unduly) impressed. :-)

Cheers!
Rich

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On 3/26/2011 12:21 PM, Rich Grise wrote:
Ned Simmons wrote:

C-130 with JATO takeoff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLFB7q8tyd8

There's an old UL about some guys who attached a JATO bottle to a car,
and splatted themselves into a mountainside.

This guy claims to be 99 percent sure he made it up in 1978; I'm 100
percent sure he didn't, because I first heard it in 1969.
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.08/rocketcar.html
;-)

Cheers!
Rich


And it was most likely a UL. It might have been done (it was done more
recently) but the results were probably not as dramatic as the tales
tell. Myth Busters did this one and decided that apply horsepower to
the road was much more efficient than applying it to the air.


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On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:44:44 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

"Steve wrote in message
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Originally misposted to alt.home.repair, but hey, they liked it, too.

Driving northward past Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada, and coming straight
at
us on final southerly approach, a C-130. Unknown if just a cargo carrier,
or a Spooky, but one big fat slow beautiful airplane. My wife saw it
first
and quipped, "What the hell is that?" It takes a lot to get her
attention.
I just said it was a weapons platform that you would not want looking for
you.

Steve

My Dad was a wingnut (electronic instrument tech) back in the 1960s and he
was always impressed with the C130. Its ability to take off form a short
jungle field, its ability to fly with engines falling off, its incredible
lifting capacity, and its absolutely incredible reliability. Every time we
see one he comments on the plane. Since I live about a mile and a half from
a major marine corps air station we get to see them pretty often.


C-130 with JATO takeoff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLFB7q8tyd8


Or the more extraordinary C-130 with JACRASH landing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gXfK4ypirI

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and take the rest as it happens.
-- Epictetus



Here is a picture of the first JATO on an aircraft.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fi...000-001538.jpg




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OR?

They have a very limited run-time and you wouldn't want them
to quit while too low and too slow...?

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The youtube videos always seem to end before the rockets do, but I don't
imagine it is by that much. It says they run a 45 degree climb to 1500', so
running it after leveling off would have no purpose. Or, that's what I
guess from the info available.

Steve

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Steve B wrote:
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... They seem to ignite when the wheels leave the ground,


That doesn't make sense, unless there's a mountain at the end of the runway.
If they don't light until the wheels have already left the ground, then they
shouldn't really call it jet (or rocket)- assisted _takeoff_, should
they? ;-)

Thanks,
Rich

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