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Where's Gummer?
On Mar 9, 3:05*pm, Hawke wrote:
On 3/8/2011 11:28 AM, wrote: On Mar 8, 2:18 pm, *wrote: You know how conservatives like to talk about what fine, generous, and giving people they are. But when it actually comes time to put out the money it's a different story. It's like, we'd love to help the guy out but we think it's probably better for him to find a way on his own to pay for his obligations. If we helped him it might make him weak, and we wouldn't want that to happen. Hawke According to an actual study Conservatives were found to be more generous than Liberals. It seems the Liberals thought the government should do the giving. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Dan Aside from the fact that is is completely logical for the more conservative to keep more of everything for themselves, one little study doesn't prove otherwise. Besides, I have numerous personal examples of conservatives whose habit is to give nothing to anyone and think that is right and proper. In addition, most of what qualifies as "conservative" giving is church related, and we all know how biased they are in who they choose to help. But the main thing is to compare how much private giving is compared to what the government does. No comparison, by the way. The government does far more than any private giving. Look at the government's contribution to the hurricane Katrina victims and look what came from private sources. Again, the government's share is huge in comparison. But in the end I'd take my chances asking for help from someone that's liberal than from a conservative any day of the week. I've already tried it in the past. Conservatives always say no. They need the money. Hawke All Bull****. Total how I think the world is without any facts or figures. Dan Sixteen months ago, Arthur C. Brooks, a professor at Syracuse University, published "Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism." The surprise is that liberals are markedly less charitable than conservatives. Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood. -- Residents of the states that voted for John Kerry in 2004 gave smaller percentages of their incomes to charity than did residents of states that voted for George Bush. Reviewing Brooks' book in the Texas Review of Law & Politics, Justice Willett notes that Austin -- it voted 56 percent for Kerry while he was getting just 38 percent statewide -- is ranked by The Chronicle of Philanthropy as 48th out of America's 50 largest cities in per capita charitable giving. Brooks' data about disparities between liberals' and conservatives' charitable giving fit these facts: Democrats represent a majority of the wealthiest congressional districts, and half of America's richest households live in states where both senators are Democrats. In 2000, brows were furrowed in perplexity because Vice President Al Gore's charitable contributions, as a percentage of his income, were below the national average: He gave 0.2 percent of his family income, one-seventh of the average for donating households. But Gore "gave at the office." By using public office to give other peoples' money to government programs, he was being charitable, as liberals increasingly, and conveniently, understand that word. |
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