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LR44 batteries.
I know a lot of things need Silver oxide SR44 but if you can use LR44 in anything, Dollar Tree stores have a card of eight for $1. I have about a dozen gadgets that can use either. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a band-aid on it, because it's Teflon coated. |
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LR44 batteries.
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news I know a lot of things need Silver oxide SR44 but if you can use LR44 in anything, Dollar Tree stores have a card of eight for $1. I have about a dozen gadgets that can use either. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a band-aid on it, because it's Teflon coated. I just got 100 Maxell brand for $7 delivered on eBay. I've had issues with the no-names. The problem with having a bunch of them is they disappear quickly for some reason. |
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LR44 batteries.
On Jan 16, 2:02*am, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: * *I know a lot of things need Silver oxide SR44 but if you can use LR44 in anything, Dollar Tree stores have a card of eight for $1. *I have about a dozen gadgets that can use either. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a band-aid on it, because it's Teflon coated. Don foreman posted this in 2006:- There are two chemistries that the batteries fitting these calipers use. One is called alkaline and the other is silver oxide. The LR44 battery is the alkaline type and the SR44 is the silver oxide type. Many battery packages will say that the LR44 can be used instead of the SR44. This is true but the LR44 voltage drops quickly whereas the SR44 doesn't. The caliper thinks the battery is dead when the voltage drops below a certain level. So even though the caliper won't work, or has a flashing display, the LR44 battery will still work in an LED light or similar application. I have found that even my Mitutoyo calipers get about 45 days with the LR44 battery. The SR44 batteries will run the same calipers for about 20 months. I'm pretty sure the LR44 will deliver more milliwats over its lifetime than the SR44 will, just at a lower voltage. ERS LR44 and SR44 are both 150 mah cells, the difference is the voltage droop on the alky LR44. SR44 is the same as 357/303. Energizer also has a 357/303H that is 175 mah. 357's from some some other mfrs are 165 mah. As Nick noted, there are cheap cells out there but they have very poor life. Go name brand -- Energizer, Renata, Varta,Duracell etc. This was very interesting to me because I had been using the LR44 batteries in both my digital calipers and my bicycle computer and they didn't seem to last very long. After switching to SR44 I have been a happy camper. Lewis ***** |
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LR44 batteries.
Tom Gardner wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news I know a lot of things need Silver oxide SR44 but if you can use LR44 in anything, Dollar Tree stores have a card of eight for $1. I have about a dozen gadgets that can use either. I just got 100 Maxell brand for $7 delivered on eBay. I've had issues with the no-names. The problem with having a bunch of them is they disappear quickly for some reason. These are 'Sunbeam'. I only buy a card or two at a time so if some are bad, I'm out a buck. Also, I've seen fake brand name batteries as well as old code date. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a band-aid on it, because it's Teflon coated. |
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" wrote: On Jan 16, 2:02 am, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: I know a lot of things need Silver oxide SR44 but if you can use LR44 in anything, Dollar Tree stores have a card of eight for $1. I have about a dozen gadgets that can use either. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a band-aid on it, because it's Teflon coated. Don foreman posted this in 2006:- There are two chemistries that the batteries fitting these calipers use. One is called alkaline and the other is silver oxide. The LR44 battery is the alkaline type and the SR44 is the silver oxide type. Many battery packages will say that the LR44 can be used instead of the SR44. This is true but the LR44 voltage drops quickly whereas the SR44 doesn't. The caliper thinks the battery is dead when the voltage drops below a certain level. So even though the caliper won't work, or has a flashing display, the LR44 battery will still work in an LED light or similar application. I have found that even my Mitutoyo calipers get about 45 days with the LR44 battery. The SR44 batteries will run the same calipers for about 20 months. I'm pretty sure the LR44 will deliver more milliwats over its lifetime than the SR44 will, just at a lower voltage. ERS LR44 and SR44 are both 150 mah cells, the difference is the voltage droop on the alky LR44. SR44 is the same as 357/303. Energizer also has a 357/303H that is 175 mah. 357's from some some other mfrs are 165 mah. As Nick noted, there are cheap cells out there but they have very poor life. Go name brand -- Energizer, Renata, Varta,Duracell etc. This was very interesting to me because I had been using the LR44 batteries in both my digital calipers and my bicycle computer and they didn't seem to last very long. After switching to SR44 I have been a happy camper. I'm familiar with the differences. Things like cheap thermometers or those headband flashlights that are rarely used don't make sense to buy the expensive cells. Use up 50 cents worth on a job, and put in fresh ones the next time you need it. For me, it's about once a year. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a band-aid on it, because it's Teflon coated. |
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 08:13:21 -0500, "Tom Gardner" gertk@lhu wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news I know a lot of things need Silver oxide SR44 but if you can use LR44 in anything, Dollar Tree stores have a card of eight for $1. I have about a dozen gadgets that can use either. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a band-aid on it, because it's Teflon coated. I just got 100 Maxell brand for $7 delivered on eBay. I've had issues with the no-names. The problem with having a bunch of them is they disappear quickly for some reason. Were those from HongKong or China? -- Threee days before Tucson, Howard Dean explained that the tea party movement is "the last gasp of the generation that has trouble with diversity." Rising to the challenge of lowering his reputation and the tone of public discourse, Dean smeared tea partiers as racists: They oppose Obama's agenda, Obama is African-American, ergo... Let us hope that Dean is the last gasp of the generation of liberals whose default position in any argument is to indict opponents as racists. This McCarthyism of the left -- devoid of intellectual content, unsupported by data -- is a mental tic, not an idea but a tactic for avoiding engagement with ideas. It expresses limitless contempt for the American people, who have reciprocated by reducing liberalism to its current characteristics of electoral weakness and bad sociology. --George Will 14 JAN 2011 Article titled "Tragedies often spark plenty of analysis" |
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LR44 batteries.
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 10:29:15 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Tom Gardner wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news I know a lot of things need Silver oxide SR44 but if you can use LR44 in anything, Dollar Tree stores have a card of eight for $1. I have about a dozen gadgets that can use either. I just got 100 Maxell brand for $7 delivered on eBay. I've had issues with the no-names. The problem with having a bunch of them is they disappear quickly for some reason. These are 'Sunbeam'. I only buy a card or two at a time so if some are bad, I'm out a buck. Also, I've seen fake brand name batteries as well as old code date. Beware!! of both Sunbeam and AC Delco D batteries!! Ive had a significant number of both brands blow out and leak ...just sitting on the storage shelf. I buy a lot of batteries at the 99C Only Store..a local chain of decent 99c stores..and for years they have carried Varta brand..which were superlative batteries, in the 3 common sizes..AAA, AA, Ds They no longer carry them..carry the Sunbeams..as do the Dollar Trees..and the batteries SUCK with loud slurping noises!! Gunner -- "You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once." Robert A. Heinlein |
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LR44 batteries.
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... Were those from HongKong or China? New York! And, delivery only took 3 days! (Don't worry, I'll PAY for that!) |
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LR44 batteries.
I just bought 50 on Ebay for $1.98- free shipping.
JR Dweller in the cellar On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 03:02:15 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: I know a lot of things need Silver oxide SR44 but if you can use LR44 in anything, Dollar Tree stores have a card of eight for $1. I have about a dozen gadgets that can use either. |
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LR44 batteries.
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 10:16:13 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 10:29:15 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Tom Gardner wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news I know a lot of things need Silver oxide SR44 but if you can use LR44 in anything, Dollar Tree stores have a card of eight for $1. I have about a dozen gadgets that can use either. I just got 100 Maxell brand for $7 delivered on eBay. I've had issues with the no-names. The problem with having a bunch of them is they disappear quickly for some reason. These are 'Sunbeam'. I only buy a card or two at a time so if some are bad, I'm out a buck. Also, I've seen fake brand name batteries as well as old code date. Beware!! of both Sunbeam and AC Delco D batteries!! Ive had a significant number of both brands blow out and leak ...just sitting on the storage shelf. I buy a lot of batteries at the 99C Only Store..a local chain of decent 99c stores..and for years they have carried Varta brand..which were superlative batteries, in the 3 common sizes..AAA, AA, Ds They no longer carry them..carry the Sunbeams..as do the Dollar Trees..and the batteries SUCK with loud slurping noises!! Gunner Sunbeam used to be a good brand but things started to go downhill in a hurry. The second hand Sunbeam snow blower I bought in 1984 REALLY sucked - didn't blow worth a damn! Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
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LR44 batteries.
"DoN. Nichols" wrote: On 2011-01-16, Michael A. Terrell wrote: I know a lot of things need Silver oxide SR44 but if you can use LR44 in anything, Dollar Tree stores have a card of eight for $1. I have about a dozen gadgets that can use either. *Can* use either -- but the SR series lasts a lot longer. Perhaps enough longer to make up for the difference in price. I use the SR44 where it matters. Some gadgets don't. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a band-aid on it, because it's Teflon coated. |
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LR44 batteries.
JR North wrote: I just bought 50 on Ebay for $1.98- free shipping. Will you use 50 before they go bad? I needed one today, and was already in the store. I find some sugar free food there, in brands that sells for $3 to $5 in other stores. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a band-aid on it, because it's Teflon coated. |
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LR44 batteries.
Tom Gardner wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... Were those from HongKong or China? New York! And, delivery only took 3 days! (Don't worry, I'll PAY for that!) You always do! ;-) -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a band-aid on it, because it's Teflon coated. |
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LR44 batteries.
Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 10:29:15 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Tom Gardner wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news I know a lot of things need Silver oxide SR44 but if you can use LR44 in anything, Dollar Tree stores have a card of eight for $1. I have about a dozen gadgets that can use either. I just got 100 Maxell brand for $7 delivered on eBay. I've had issues with the no-names. The problem with having a bunch of them is they disappear quickly for some reason. These are 'Sunbeam'. I only buy a card or two at a time so if some are bad, I'm out a buck. Also, I've seen fake brand name batteries as well as old code date. Beware!! of both Sunbeam and AC Delco D batteries!! I've never seen AC Delco batteries. Ive had a significant number of both brands blow out and leak ...just sitting on the storage shelf. There were some in a few gadgets that I've had a couple years, so i thought I would try them. I've been using some Sunbeam CFL bulbs for a couple years now, with no problems. I buy a lot of batteries at the 99C Only Store..a local chain of decent 99c stores..and for years they have carried Varta brand..which were superlative batteries, in the 3 common sizes..AAA, AA, Ds They no longer carry them..carry the Sunbeams..as do the Dollar Trees..and the batteries SUCK with loud slurping noises!! Thanks for the warning. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a band-aid on it, because it's Teflon coated. |
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LR44 batteries.
I find those dime a dozen batteries to be worse than useless.
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On 2011-01-17, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote: [ ... ] Beware!! of both Sunbeam and AC Delco D batteries!! I've never seen AC Delco batteries. Depends on what you are interpreting the "AC" as meaning. IIRC, when paired with Delco, it means (or used to mean) Allis-Chalmers, back when Delco's name was associated with automotive parts. Enjoy, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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On 18 Jan 2011 02:59:52 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
wrote: On 2011-01-17, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: [ ... ] Beware!! of both Sunbeam and AC Delco D batteries!! I've never seen AC Delco batteries. Depends on what you are interpreting the "AC" as meaning. IIRC, when paired with Delco, it means (or used to mean) Allis-Chalmers, back when Delco's name was associated with automotive parts. Enjoy, DoN. AC was NEVER Allis Chalmers when combined with Delco. IIRC it was Albert Champion, of Champion Spark Plug fame. He moved to Dayton Engineering Labotatories Co (DELCO) , founded by Charles Kettering and Edward Deeds after they left National Cash Register, and taken over by General Motors somewhere around 1909. |
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JR North wrote: No....but considering the price, who cares? That's why I just buy 8-10 at a time. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a band-aid on it, because it's Teflon coated. |
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LR44 batteries.
I dunno what the shelf life of the silver cells are, compared to the
alkaline chemistry, but the user often doesn't know how long ago the cells were actually produced. I avoid buying no-brand, low-priced/huge quantity button cells, as they're likely to be of the worst quality, IMO. I've found SR44s at reasonable prices maybe 6 on a card, and will buy several cards if my remaining stock is short, when I see them.. I also mark the cards with the month/year so when I'm going thru my stock I can see which ones are older. If I encounter older ones that are low, I'll just throw them away and select a more recently purchased set/package. For electronic calipers, and possibly other devices stored in a protective case, there's often ample room in the case liner/foam to cut out extra round holes to hold a couple of spare button cells (+ side up so they don't get shorted).. this eliminates the need to go looking for/fetch fresh cells. -- WB .......... wrote in message ... Don foreman posted this in 2006:- There are two chemistries that the batteries fitting these calipers use. One is called alkaline and the other is silver oxide. The LR44 battery is the alkaline type and the SR44 is the silver oxide type. Many battery packages will say that the LR44 can be used instead of the SR44. This is true but the LR44 voltage drops quickly whereas the SR44 doesn't. The caliper thinks the battery is dead when the voltage drops below a certain level. So even though the caliper won't work, or has a flashing display, the LR44 battery will still work in an LED light or similar application. I have found that even my Mitutoyo calipers get about 45 days with the LR44 battery. The SR44 batteries will run the same calipers for about 20 months. I'm pretty sure the LR44 will deliver more milliwats over its lifetime than the SR44 will, just at a lower voltage. ERS LR44 and SR44 are both 150 mah cells, the difference is the voltage droop on the alky LR44. SR44 is the same as 357/303. Energizer also has a 357/303H that is 175 mah. 357's from some some other mfrs are 165 mah. As Nick noted, there are cheap cells out there but they have very poor life. Go name brand -- Energizer, Renata, Varta,Duracell etc. This was very interesting to me because I had been using the LR44 batteries in both my digital calipers and my bicycle computer and they didn't seem to last very long. After switching to SR44 I have been a happy camper. Lewis ***** |
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Wild_Bill wrote: I dunno what the shelf life of the silver cells are, compared to the alkaline chemistry, but the user often doesn't know how long ago the cells were actually produced. I avoid buying no-brand, low-priced/huge quantity button cells, as they're likely to be of the worst quality, IMO. I've found SR44s at reasonable prices maybe 6 on a card, and will buy several cards if my remaining stock is short, when I see them.. I also mark the cards with the month/year so when I'm going thru my stock I can see which ones are older. If I encounter older ones that are low, I'll just throw them away and select a more recently purchased set/package. For electronic calipers, and possibly other devices stored in a protective case, there's often ample room in the case liner/foam to cut out extra round holes to hold a couple of spare button cells (+ side up so they don't get shorted).. this eliminates the need to go looking for/fetch fresh cells. The case for my digital calipers came with a place for a spare cell, and a spare cell. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a band-aid on it, because it's Teflon coated. |
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