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16 of the Dumbest Things
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:09:25 -0800 (PST), Jim Austin wrote: Americans are often misinformed, occasionally downright dumb, and easily misled by juicy-sounding rumors. But while the right wing is taking full advantage of this reality, the Left worries that calling out lies is "rude." The left routinely refers to anything inconvenient or politically incorrect as "lies." I engaged in a long..very long conversation on politics with a black aquaintence of mine. College educated, got out of the military in 1984..and doesnt own a computer with internet access. And a Liberal Democrat. I was utterly shocked and bemused by the utter ignorance he spewed when discussing his beloved Democrat party. He denied that Dr King was a Republican, denied that the KKK had been a Democrat founded and run for 150 yrs organization and so on and so forth. I told him that Id get him a computer, put him on the internet and he could check out what he Thinks he knows for himself. He declined the offer and asked me if I would like to be a Democrat? I told me that Id like to be castrated by an electric ice crusher just a bit more. And I wasnt a racist, bigot or homophobe so couldnt possible be a Democrat. Which sorta noplused him for a bit. His ignorance is simply more proof that blacks are utterly ignorant of actual history. We in our discussion, covered Africa, Obama, the Civil War, the 3 Civil Rights Acts etc etc..and he was not only utterly wrong on each and every belief system..but did not wish to learn how and why he was wrong. I like the guy..but his ignorance of fact and history..was extremely troubling Gunner Your friend does not want to disrupt his belief system. It's uncomfortable for some to admit to themselves that they are wrong about anything and consciously or unconsciously block anything that conflicts with their beliefs. Others appreciate refining their understanding and seek truth no mater where it leads. I believe that most conservatives were once liberals but discovered the underlying truths in society and science, Casual conservatives might have simply been raised in a conservative atmosphere. Active liberals might know these truths but are driven by ulterior motives. Casual liberals simply exist in their created comfort zone. You were once a liberal I'd bet! I was. |
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16 of the Dumbest Things
On Nov 21, 7:36*am, "Tom Gardner" l@l wrote:
... ...I believe that most conservatives were once liberals but discovered the underlying truths in society and science, * Or grew up and learned how to run their own lives. |
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16 of the Dumbest Things
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 07:36:56 -0500, "Tom Gardner" l@l wrote:
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:09:25 -0800 (PST), Jim Austin wrote: Americans are often misinformed, occasionally downright dumb, and easily misled by juicy-sounding rumors. But while the right wing is taking full advantage of this reality, the Left worries that calling out lies is "rude." The left routinely refers to anything inconvenient or politically incorrect as "lies." I engaged in a long..very long conversation on politics with a black aquaintence of mine. College educated, got out of the military in 1984..and doesnt own a computer with internet access. And a Liberal Democrat. I was utterly shocked and bemused by the utter ignorance he spewed when discussing his beloved Democrat party. He denied that Dr King was a Republican, denied that the KKK had been a Democrat founded and run for 150 yrs organization and so on and so forth. I told him that Id get him a computer, put him on the internet and he could check out what he Thinks he knows for himself. He declined the offer and asked me if I would like to be a Democrat? I told me that Id like to be castrated by an electric ice crusher just a bit more. And I wasnt a racist, bigot or homophobe so couldnt possible be a Democrat. Which sorta noplused him for a bit. His ignorance is simply more proof that blacks are utterly ignorant of actual history. We in our discussion, covered Africa, Obama, the Civil War, the 3 Civil Rights Acts etc etc..and he was not only utterly wrong on each and every belief system..but did not wish to learn how and why he was wrong. I like the guy..but his ignorance of fact and history..was extremely troubling Gunner Your friend does not want to disrupt his belief system. It's uncomfortable for some to admit to themselves that they are wrong about anything and consciously or unconsciously block anything that conflicts with their beliefs. Others appreciate refining their understanding and seek truth no mater where it leads. I believe that most conservatives were once liberals but discovered the underlying truths in society and science, Casual conservatives might have simply been raised in a conservative atmosphere. Active liberals might know these truths but are driven by ulterior motives. Casual liberals simply exist in their created comfort zone. You were once a liberal I'd bet! I was. Actually...no..I wasnt. But my parents and I walked with Dr. King in Detroit and were spit on by Democrats...so I knew which way was the right way from that point on. Gunner -- "Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it, or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate results." - John Tucci, |
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16 of the Dumbest Things
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 04:49:02 -0800 (PST), Jim Wilkins
wrote: On Nov 21, 7:36*am, "Tom Gardner" l@l wrote: ... ...I believe that most conservatives were once liberals but discovered the underlying truths in society and science, * I like it, Tawm! In a nutshell. Or grew up and learned how to run their own lives. Jim, that should be "and grew up...". -- Education is when you read the fine print. Experience is what you get if you don't. -- Pete Seeger |
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16 of the Dumbest Things
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 04:49:02 -0800 (PST), Jim Wilkins wrote: On Nov 21, 7:36 am, "Tom Gardner" l@l wrote: ... ...I believe that most conservatives were once liberals but discovered the underlying truths in society and science, I like it, Tawm! In a nutshell. Or grew up and learned how to run their own lives. Jim, that should be "and grew up...". -- Education is when you read the fine print. Experience is what you get if you don't. -- Pete Seeger I think it's fair to say that the most outspoken liberals that we know have some type of nefarious vision that they feel will benefit them at the determent of the rest of society. Most conservatives we know are experienced with actually working for the benefit of society. The "gimme" people disgust me! |
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16 of the Dumbest Things
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 19:34:03 -0500, "Tom Gardner" l@l wrote:
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 04:49:02 -0800 (PST), Jim Wilkins wrote: On Nov 21, 7:36 am, "Tom Gardner" l@l wrote: ... ...I believe that most conservatives were once liberals but discovered the underlying truths in society and science, I like it, Tawm! In a nutshell. Or grew up and learned how to run their own lives. Jim, that should be "and grew up...". -- Education is when you read the fine print. Experience is what you get if you don't. -- Pete Seeger I think it's fair to say that the most outspoken liberals that we know have some type of nefarious vision that they feel will benefit them at the determent of the rest of society. Most conservatives we know are experienced with actually working for the benefit of society. The "gimme" people disgust me! Whats scary is that when the Liberals start singing their song..its to the music of the Internationale..and one can hear machine guns being cocked in the backgrounds..as the sounds of backhoes leaving the freshly dug ditches fades away.... -- "Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it, or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate results." - John Tucci, |
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