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I am sure I am pointing out the obvious, but have you checked out all the
various resources and links at Linuxcnc.com? The reason I ask is when I was
just getting started it seemed to me there were more open source CNC
applications available that run under Linux than Windows. Since I finally
just went with a Windows controller (Mach 3) because I already had a machine
profile to run with it I never followed up on all those, but your posts on
writing your own code gernating scripts reminded me of that. Might be worth
a look see if you have not already exhausted that resource.


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On 2010-08-01, Bob La Londe wrote:
I am sure I am pointing out the obvious, but have you checked out all the
various resources and links at Linuxcnc.com? The reason I ask is when I was
just getting started it seemed to me there were more open source CNC
applications available that run under Linux than Windows. Since I finally
just went with a Windows controller (Mach 3) because I already had a machine
profile to run with it I never followed up on all those, but your posts on
writing your own code gernating scripts reminded me of that. Might be worth
a look see if you have not already exhausted that resource.


Bob, that is what I am using , EMC2 whose webpage is linuxcnc.org. I
am EXTREMELY happy with EMC, beyond belief. It really is quite
amazing. What kind of controller do you use and for what application?

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On 2010-08-01, Bob La Londe wrote:
I am sure I am pointing out the obvious, but have you checked out all the
various resources and links at Linuxcnc.com? The reason I ask is when I
was
just getting started it seemed to me there were more open source CNC
applications available that run under Linux than Windows. Since I
finally
just went with a Windows controller (Mach 3) because I already had a
machine
profile to run with it I never followed up on all those, but your posts
on
writing your own code gernating scripts reminded me of that. Might be
worth
a look see if you have not already exhausted that resource.


Bob, that is what I am using , EMC2 whose webpage is linuxcnc.org.


Are none of those links they list to various CAM packages any good? Seems
to me you would rather be making chips than writing code.

I
am EXTREMELY happy with EMC, beyond belief.
It really is quite
amazing. What kind of controller do you use and for what application?



I'm using Mach 3 to push a DeepGroove1 on a Taig, but I also have a Gecko
Controller and some bigger motors that I'll probably swap out to. Then I've
got a little salvage MaxNC machine that I may run under Mach 3.

I am pushing mini mill(s).



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On 2010-08-01, Bob La Londe wrote:
I am sure I am pointing out the obvious, but have you checked out all the
various resources and links at Linuxcnc.com? The reason I ask is when I
was
just getting started it seemed to me there were more open source CNC
applications available that run under Linux than Windows. Since I
finally
just went with a Windows controller (Mach 3) because I already had a
machine
profile to run with it I never followed up on all those, but your posts
on
writing your own code gernating scripts reminded me of that. Might be
worth
a look see if you have not already exhausted that resource.


Bob, that is what I am using , EMC2 whose webpage is linuxcnc.org.


Are none of those links they list to various CAM packages any good? Seems
to me you would rather be making chips than writing code.


I have not even started looking at CAM. I have no idea. I am trying
to cover the basics and learn G code the hard way. I have discovered
that learning things the hard way is the best way to learn.

I am EXTREMELY happy with EMC, beyond belief. It really is quite
amazing. What kind of controller do you use and for what
application?



I'm using Mach 3 to push a DeepGroove1 on a Taig, but I also have a Gecko
Controller and some bigger motors that I'll probably swap out to. Then I've
got a little salvage MaxNC machine that I may run under Mach 3.

I am pushing mini mill(s).


I see!

Good luck Bob! CNC is quite fun.

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Are none of those links they list to various CAM packages any good? Seems
to me you would rather be making chips than writing code.


I have not even started looking at CAM. I have no idea. I am trying
to cover the basics and learn G code the hard way. I have discovered
that learning things the hard way is the best way to learn.


Parachuting, hunting russian boar with a knife, self defense in the
inner city......ayup....best way.....



Gunner


"A conservative who doesn't believe? in God simply doesn't pray;
a godless liberal wants no one to pray. A conservative who doesn't
like guns doesn't buy one; a liberal gun-hater wants to disarm us all.
A gay conservative has sex his own way; a gay liberal requires us all
to watch and accept his perversion and have it taught to children.
A conservative who is offended by a radio show changes the station;
an offended liberal wants it banned, prosecuted and persecuted."
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On 2010-08-01, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 01:43:40 -0500, Ignoramus28671
wrote:

Are none of those links they list to various CAM packages any good? Seems
to me you would rather be making chips than writing code.


I have not even started looking at CAM. I have no idea. I am trying
to cover the basics and learn G code the hard way. I have discovered
that learning things the hard way is the best way to learn.


Parachuting, hunting russian boar with a knife, self defense in the
inner city......ayup....best way.....


Nobody hunts boars with knives.

However I did some parachuting and even lived in a black neighborhood
(by accident).

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On 2010-08-01, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 01:43:40 -0500, Ignoramus28671
wrote:

Are none of those links they list to various CAM packages any good?
Seems
to me you would rather be making chips than writing code.

I have not even started looking at CAM. I have no idea. I am trying
to cover the basics and learn G code the hard way. I have discovered
that learning things the hard way is the best way to learn.


Parachuting, hunting russian boar with a knife, self defense in the
inner city......ayup....best way.....


Nobody hunts boars with knives.


Uh, sorry, but an old javelina-hunting buddy of mine did just that, with a
European boar, and had the guide shoot a video. It's creepy. However, it was
on a hunting preserve somewhere in the Southeastern US, not in the wild.

IIRC, the pig weighed around 400 pounds. I've lost track of the guy, but I
probably could track him down. I'd have to make some calls to remember his
name.

The guy was pretty gentle, too. He was a quail hunter who went rogue. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress


However I did some parachuting and even lived in a black neighborhood
(by accident).

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I have not even started looking at CAM. I have no idea. I am trying
to cover the basics and learn G code the hard way. I have discovered
that learning things the hard way is the best way to learn.


No question you're doing the right thing. being well grounded in manual
machining and gcoding is critical to being good at this hobby. For the parts
I make, CAM is needed only occasionally. I'm lucky, I have my son do these
after I design in AutoCAD. Making a good gcode program in CAM is difficult
if you do it only every now and then.

Karl



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On 2010-08-01, Karl Townsend wrote:

I have not even started looking at CAM. I have no idea. I am trying
to cover the basics and learn G code the hard way. I have discovered
that learning things the hard way is the best way to learn.


No question you're doing the right thing. being well grounded in manual
machining and gcoding is critical to being good at this hobby. For the parts
I make, CAM is needed only occasionally. I'm lucky, I have my son do these
after I design in AutoCAD. Making a good gcode program in CAM is difficult
if you do it only every now and then.


Good to hear. Being close to the metal etc. CNC is not point and
cilck.

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On 2010-08-01, Ed Huntress wrote:

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On 2010-08-01, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 01:43:40 -0500, Ignoramus28671
wrote:

Are none of those links they list to various CAM packages any good?
Seems
to me you would rather be making chips than writing code.

I have not even started looking at CAM. I have no idea. I am trying
to cover the basics and learn G code the hard way. I have discovered
that learning things the hard way is the best way to learn.

Parachuting, hunting russian boar with a knife, self defense in the
inner city......ayup....best way.....


Nobody hunts boars with knives.


Uh, sorry, but an old javelina-hunting buddy of mine did just that, with a
European boar, and had the guide shoot a video. It's creepy. However, it was
on a hunting preserve somewhere in the Southeastern US, not in the wild.

IIRC, the pig weighed around 400 pounds. I've lost track of the guy, but I
probably could track him down. I'd have to make some calls to remember his
name.

The guy was pretty gentle, too. He was a quail hunter who went rogue. d8-)


Shocking!


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"Ignoramus32079" wrote in message
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On 2010-08-01, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 01:43:40 -0500, Ignoramus28671
wrote:

Are none of those links they list to various CAM packages any good?
Seems
to me you would rather be making chips than writing code.

I have not even started looking at CAM. I have no idea. I am trying
to cover the basics and learn G code the hard way. I have discovered
that learning things the hard way is the best way to learn.

Parachuting, hunting russian boar with a knife, self defense in the
inner city......ayup....best way.....

Nobody hunts boars with knives.


Uh, sorry, but an old javelina-hunting buddy of mine did just that, with
a
European boar, and had the guide shoot a video. It's creepy. However, it
was
on a hunting preserve somewhere in the Southeastern US, not in the wild.

IIRC, the pig weighed around 400 pounds. I've lost track of the guy, but
I
probably could track him down. I'd have to make some calls to remember
his
name.

The guy was pretty gentle, too. He was a quail hunter who went rogue.
d8-)


Shocking!


He was a pioneer in the field of extreme bloodsports. g

I have to call my old friend Tony Mandile, former editor of _Arizona
Hunter_, anyway. I'll see if he remembers the guy's name. It was Todd
something. Maybe he even has the video online somewhere.

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On 2010-08-01, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 01:43:40 -0500, Ignoramus28671
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Are none of those links they list to various CAM packages any good? Seems
to me you would rather be making chips than writing code.

I have not even started looking at CAM. I have no idea. I am trying
to cover the basics and learn G code the hard way. I have discovered
that learning things the hard way is the best way to learn.


Parachuting, hunting russian boar with a knife, self defense in the
inner city......ayup....best way.....


Nobody hunts boars with knives.


You mean..no one in Chicago does. Right?

I have, along with a ****load of other people in the world.

Google "boar hunting with knife"
26,800 hits

Ive also hunted boar with spear, bow and arrow etc etc. A friend of mine
has hunted them with 3 pound sledge. Not penned animals..wild ones.

He is a bit ...odd...though...shrug.


However I did some parachuting and even lived in a black neighborhood
(by accident).

i


Black neighborhood, or Inner City?

There is a VAST difference.

And how do you move someplace "by accident"?????



"A conservative who doesn't believe? in God simply doesn't pray;
a godless liberal wants no one to pray. A conservative who doesn't
like guns doesn't buy one; a liberal gun-hater wants to disarm us all.
A gay conservative has sex his own way; a gay liberal requires us all
to watch and accept his perversion and have it taught to children.
A conservative who is offended by a radio show changes the station;
an offended liberal wants it banned, prosecuted and persecuted."
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On 2010-08-01, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 01:43:40 -0500, Ignoramus28671
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Are none of those links they list to various CAM packages any good?
Seems
to me you would rather be making chips than writing code.

I have not even started looking at CAM. I have no idea. I am trying
to cover the basics and learn G code the hard way. I have discovered
that learning things the hard way is the best way to learn.

Parachuting, hunting russian boar with a knife, self defense in the
inner city......ayup....best way.....

Nobody hunts boars with knives.


Uh, sorry, but an old javelina-hunting buddy of mine did just that, with a
European boar, and had the guide shoot a video. It's creepy. However, it was
on a hunting preserve somewhere in the Southeastern US, not in the wild.

IIRC, the pig weighed around 400 pounds. I've lost track of the guy, but I
probably could track him down. I'd have to make some calls to remember his
name.

The guy was pretty gentle, too. He was a quail hunter who went rogue. d8-)


Shocking!


Liberals should love the idea..the inner child, back to nature, etc etc
etc.

We just improved our method of killing our food over the millinia...we
still kill our food.

And the guy who does it with a knife, or a sharp stick..or a 3 lb sledge
is a hell of a lot closer to what we used to be, than the guy who buys a
white stryrofoam tray with pork on it at the Piggly Wiggly.

Gunner


"A conservative who doesn't believe? in God simply doesn't pray;
a godless liberal wants no one to pray. A conservative who doesn't
like guns doesn't buy one; a liberal gun-hater wants to disarm us all.
A gay conservative has sex his own way; a gay liberal requires us all
to watch and accept his perversion and have it taught to children.
A conservative who is offended by a radio show changes the station;
an offended liberal wants it banned, prosecuted and persecuted."
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On 2010-08-01, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 08:52:16 -0500, Ignoramus32079
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On 2010-08-01, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 01:43:40 -0500, Ignoramus28671
wrote:

Are none of those links they list to various CAM packages any good? Seems
to me you would rather be making chips than writing code.

I have not even started looking at CAM. I have no idea. I am trying
to cover the basics and learn G code the hard way. I have discovered
that learning things the hard way is the best way to learn.

Parachuting, hunting russian boar with a knife, self defense in the
inner city......ayup....best way.....


Nobody hunts boars with knives.


You mean..no one in Chicago does. Right?

I have, along with a ****load of other people in the world.

Google "boar hunting with knife"
26,800 hits

Ive also hunted boar with spear, bow and arrow etc etc. A friend of mine
has hunted them with 3 pound sledge. Not penned animals..wild ones.

He is a bit ...odd...though...shrug.


However I did some parachuting and even lived in a black neighborhood
(by accident).

i


Black neighborhood, or Inner City?

There is a VAST difference.

And how do you move someplace "by accident"?????


It was a black neighborhood on the west side of the street. On the
east side of the street was a "Inner City" dump.

I moved there by accident because due to cmoplete lack of experience,
I did not pay any attention to the "racial composition" of the
place. All I cared for was a cheap rent.

It was actually not horrible, but I had to be on alert.

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He was a pioneer in the field of extreme bloodsports. g

I have to call my old friend Tony Mandile, former editor of _Arizona
Hunter_, anyway. I'll see if he remembers the guy's name. It was Todd
something. Maybe he even has the video online somewhere.


Google "Larry Harley Boar Hunting" for an example. One look at Larry and
his knives and your sympathy goes out to the pig.


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He was a pioneer in the field of extreme bloodsports. g

I have to call my old friend Tony Mandile, former editor of _Arizona
Hunter_, anyway. I'll see if he remembers the guy's name. It was Todd
something. Maybe he even has the video online somewhere.


Google "Larry Harley Boar Hunting" for an example. One look at Larry and
his knives and your sympathy goes out to the pig.


I see that it's become quite popular with the "hold my beer and watch this"
crowd. Todd did it back around 1980 or so.

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