The little AllTrades 5-gallon air compressor I had been using since April 2006
was not quite large enough, and was easily outrun. And VERY LOUD, to the point
that I had to either leave the shop or wear hearing protectors. It's a
cast-iron direct-drive oil-lubricated one-piston unit running at 3450 rpm. So,
I was in the market for a bigger unit.

It had to be reasonably movable by one man, so the game was to get the biggest
unit that qualifies, the limit being about 200 pounds. Floor space is very
limited, so it had to be vertical tank. With wheels. Reliability is necessary,
so it had to be oil-lubricated with cast iron sleeves or better a cast iron pump
body. Power would be single phase 110 or 220 volts - I have no problem to add a
220-volt outlet if needed, or to hardwire the compressor.

After trolling through the offerings at Grizzley and Harbor Freight (if I will
have Chinese Quality, I want Chinese Price), and not really liking the
combinations of features on offer, I ended up getting an Ingersoll-Rand
"GarageMate" (model PI-5IU-A9), for $470, including truck shipping, through
Northern Tool via Amazon. Delivery is about a month after receipt of order, so
I guess they make the units only when they have a batch of orders in hand.

Anyway, the unit was delivered by Con-Way Freight on Monday (28 June). The
first problem was that despite the shipping documents saying that a liftgate was
required, no liftgate. But the truck driver, a big burly guy, managed to get
the 200# unit to the ground undamaged anyway.

The box was heavily damaged, and was coming apart. (Not caused by the driver
letting it down to the ground.) There were forklift-truck fork holes in the
side, and three of the four wooden feet (made of 2x4) had been torn off the box,
which probably explains the fork holes. The packing list from IR says that the
unit should have been banded to a pallet; this was not done.

Anyway, the driver and I opened the box, and for all that box damage the unit
seemed OK, so I accepted the unit, although I did insist that the driver mark
the shipping document that the box showed fork damage, thus establishing the
basis for a later latent-damage claim, should it be needed.

The unit is very solid, awkwardly shaped, lacks proper handholds, and very
top-heavy. It is shipped horizontal. I was unable to just muscle it into a
vertical position without danger of dropping it and/or hurting myself, and so I
just left it laying on the shop floor until today (Saturday).

To erect the unit, I resorted to ancient methods. I made a temporary bridge
gantry with two 6-foot step ladders to which is lashed a 6' long 1.5" diameter
12L14 steel bar, this affair straddling the supine compressor.

A length of 3/8" diameter nylon rope is tied to the bar, goes twice through a
steel ring tied to the unit and then over the steel bar, with the free end
wrapped a few times around the bar and tied. This is basically a
block-and-tackle with 4:1 mechanical advantage implemented with steel rings and
a round bar, but no pulleys. (I also have a pulley-based block and tackle, but
it takes up too much length.)

This worked just fine, with no drama, allowed me to get the unit upright in
stages, until I could just muscle it up to vertical.

Attached the handles, filled the compressor pump with oil, and fired it up.
Works just fine. Much quieter than the AllTrades 5-gallon compressor it
replaces. The claimed HP of the two motors is the same, 2 HP continuous, but I
bet that IR horses are larger. The IR compressor runs at ~1000 RPM, and has two
cylinders in parallel. The IR tank is 4 times larger.

The only damage I can find is that when the unit was horizontal, it rested on
the stem of the pressure relief valve, and the concrete floor ground a bit of
the valve stem away. Although the valve still works, I think I'll ask IR for a
new one, if only to poke them in the ribs. This is really a design flaw - if
one will ship horizontal, things should be arranged such that there is a real
steel foot of some kind to take the load, not some fragile brass valve. Nor
should the shipping carton have disintegrated.

Joe Gwinn

On Jul 3, 7:16*pm, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
The little AllTrades 5-gallon air compressor I had been using since April 2006
was not quite large enough, and was easily outrun. *And VERY LOUD, to the point
that I had to either leave the shop or wear hearing protectors. *It's a
cast-iron direct-drive oil-lubricated one-piston unit running at 3450 rpm.. *So,
I was in the market for a bigger unit.

It had to be reasonably movable by one man, so the game was to get the biggest
unit that qualifies, the limit being about 200 pounds. *Floor space is very
limited, so it had to be vertical tank. *With wheels. *Reliability is necessary,
so it had to be oil-lubricated with cast iron sleeves or better a cast iron pump
body. *Power would be single phase 110 or 220 volts - I have no problem to add a
220-volt outlet if needed, or to hardwire the compressor.

After trolling through the offerings at Grizzley and Harbor Freight (if I will
have Chinese Quality, I want Chinese Price), and not really liking the
combinations of features on offer, I ended up getting an Ingersoll-Rand
"GarageMate" (model PI-5IU-A9), for $470, including truck shipping, through
Northern Tool via Amazon. *Delivery is about a month after receipt of order, so
I guess they make the units only when they have a batch of orders in hand..

Anyway, the unit was delivered by Con-Way Freight on Monday (28 June). *The
first problem was that despite the shipping documents saying that a liftgate was
required, no liftgate. *But the truck driver, a big burly guy, managed to get
the 200# unit to the ground undamaged anyway.

The box was heavily damaged, and was coming apart. *(Not caused by the driver
letting it down to the ground.) *There were forklift-truck fork holes in the
side, and three of the four wooden feet (made of 2x4) had been torn off the box,
which probably explains the fork holes. *The packing list from IR says that the
unit should have been banded to a pallet; this was not done.

Anyway, the driver and I opened the box, and for all that box damage the unit
seemed OK, so I accepted the unit, although I did insist that the driver mark
the shipping document that the box showed fork damage, thus establishing the
basis for a later latent-damage claim, should it be needed.

The unit is very solid, awkwardly shaped, lacks proper handholds, and very
top-heavy. *It is shipped horizontal. *I was unable to just muscle it into a
vertical position without danger of dropping it and/or hurting myself, and so I
just left it laying on the shop floor until today (Saturday). *

To erect the unit, I resorted to ancient methods. *I made a temporary bridge
gantry with two 6-foot step ladders to which is lashed a 6' long 1.5" diameter
12L14 steel bar, this affair straddling the supine compressor.

A length of 3/8" diameter nylon rope is tied to the bar, goes twice through a
steel ring tied to the unit and then over the steel bar, with the free end
wrapped a few times around the bar and tied. *This is basically a
block-and-tackle with 4:1 mechanical advantage implemented with steel rings and
a round bar, but no pulleys. *(I also have a pulley-based block and tackle, but
it takes up too much length.)

This worked just fine, with no drama, allowed me to get the unit upright in
stages, until I could just muscle it up to vertical.

Attached the handles, filled the compressor pump with oil, and fired it up. *
Works just fine. *Much quieter than the AllTrades 5-gallon compressor it
replaces. *The claimed HP of the two motors is the same, 2 HP continuous, but I
bet that IR horses are larger. *The IR compressor runs at ~1000 RPM, and has two
cylinders in parallel. *The IR tank is 4 times larger.

The only damage I can find is that when the unit was horizontal, it rested on
the stem of the pressure relief valve, and the concrete floor ground a bit of
the valve stem away. *Although the valve still works, I think I'll ask IR for a
new one, if only to poke them in the ribs. *This is really a design flaw - if
one will ship horizontal, things should be arranged such that there is a real
steel foot of some kind to take the load, not some fragile brass valve. *Nor
should the shipping carton have disintegrated.

Joe Gwinn

I wonder if this uses an 8 pole motor to get the direct drive ~1000
rpm? Multiple pole motors (I believe) get you more torque, but it may
be difficult to find a generic replacement if it ever fails and you
need to replace it.

In article ,
"Denis G." wrote:

On Jul 3, 7:16*pm, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
The little AllTrades 5-gallon air compressor I had been using since April
2006
was not quite large enough, and was easily outrun. *And VERY LOUD, to the
point
that I had to either leave the shop or wear hearing protectors. *It's a
cast-iron direct-drive oil-lubricated one-piston unit running at 3450 rpm.
*So,
I was in the market for a bigger unit.

It had to be reasonably movable by one man, so the game was to get the
biggest
unit that qualifies, the limit being about 200 pounds. *Floor space is very
limited, so it had to be vertical tank. *With wheels. *Reliability is
necessary,
so it had to be oil-lubricated with cast iron sleeves or better a cast iron
pump
body. *Power would be single phase 110 or 220 volts - I have no problem to
add a
220-volt outlet if needed, or to hardwire the compressor.

After trolling through the offerings at Grizzley and Harbor Freight (if I
will
have Chinese Quality, I want Chinese Price), and not really liking the
combinations of features on offer, I ended up getting an Ingersoll-Rand
"GarageMate" (model PI-5IU-A9), for $470, including truck shipping, through
Northern Tool via Amazon. *Delivery is about a month after receipt of
order, so
I guess they make the units only when they have a batch of orders in hand.

Anyway, the unit was delivered by Con-Way Freight on Monday (28 June). *The
first problem was that despite the shipping documents saying that a
liftgate was
required, no liftgate. *But the truck driver, a big burly guy, managed to
get
the 200# unit to the ground undamaged anyway.

The box was heavily damaged, and was coming apart. *(Not caused by the
driver
letting it down to the ground.) *There were forklift-truck fork holes in
the
side, and three of the four wooden feet (made of 2x4) had been torn off the
box,
which probably explains the fork holes. *The packing list from IR says that
the
unit should have been banded to a pallet; this was not done.

Anyway, the driver and I opened the box, and for all that box damage the
unit
seemed OK, so I accepted the unit, although I did insist that the driver
mark
the shipping document that the box showed fork damage, thus establishing
the
basis for a later latent-damage claim, should it be needed.

The unit is very solid, awkwardly shaped, lacks proper handholds, and very
top-heavy. *It is shipped horizontal. *I was unable to just muscle it into
a
vertical position without danger of dropping it and/or hurting myself, and
so I
just left it laying on the shop floor until today (Saturday). *

To erect the unit, I resorted to ancient methods. *I made a temporary
bridge
gantry with two 6-foot step ladders to which is lashed a 6' long 1.5"
diameter
12L14 steel bar, this affair straddling the supine compressor.

A length of 3/8" diameter nylon rope is tied to the bar, goes twice through
a
steel ring tied to the unit and then over the steel bar, with the free end
wrapped a few times around the bar and tied. *This is basically a
block-and-tackle with 4:1 mechanical advantage implemented with steel rings
and
a round bar, but no pulleys. *(I also have a pulley-based block and tackle,
but
it takes up too much length.)

This worked just fine, with no drama, allowed me to get the unit upright in
stages, until I could just muscle it up to vertical.

Attached the handles, filled the compressor pump with oil, and fired it up.
*
Works just fine. *Much quieter than the AllTrades 5-gallon compressor it
replaces. *The claimed HP of the two motors is the same, 2 HP continuous,
but I
bet that IR horses are larger. *The IR compressor runs at ~1000 RPM, and
has two
cylinders in parallel. *The IR tank is 4 times larger.

The only damage I can find is that when the unit was horizontal, it rested
on
the stem of the pressure relief valve, and the concrete floor ground a bit
of
the valve stem away. *Although the valve still works, I think I'll ask IR
for a
new one, if only to poke them in the ribs. *This is really a design flaw -
if
one will ship horizontal, things should be arranged such that there is a
real
steel foot of some kind to take the load, not some fragile brass valve.
*Nor
should the shipping carton have disintegrated.

Joe Gwinn

I wonder if this uses an 8 pole motor to get the direct drive ~1000
rpm? Multiple pole motors (I believe) get you more torque, but it may
be difficult to find a generic replacement if it ever fails and you
need to replace it.

No, it's plain old belt drive. The motor is an ordinary 60 Hz two-pole motor,
with two capacitor humps. Common as dirt. I don't think that motor replacement
will be difficult, should it ever be needed.

Here is some data:
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200375221_200375221.

One can download the brochure and manual from this webpage.

Joe Gwinn

On Jul 4, 9:46*am, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
In article ,
*"Denis G." wrote:





On Jul 3, 7:16*pm, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
The little AllTrades 5-gallon air compressor I had been using since April
2006
was not quite large enough, and was easily outrun. *And VERY LOUD, to the
point
that I had to either leave the shop or wear hearing protectors. *It's a
cast-iron direct-drive oil-lubricated one-piston unit running at 3450 rpm.
*So,
I was in the market for a bigger unit.

It had to be reasonably movable by one man, so the game was to get the
biggest
unit that qualifies, the limit being about 200 pounds. *Floor space is very
limited, so it had to be vertical tank. *With wheels. *Reliability is
necessary,
so it had to be oil-lubricated with cast iron sleeves or better a cast iron
pump
body. *Power would be single phase 110 or 220 volts - I have no problem to
add a
220-volt outlet if needed, or to hardwire the compressor.

After trolling through the offerings at Grizzley and Harbor Freight (if I
will
have Chinese Quality, I want Chinese Price), and not really liking the
combinations of features on offer, I ended up getting an Ingersoll-Rand
"GarageMate" (model PI-5IU-A9), for $470, including truck shipping, through
Northern Tool via Amazon. *Delivery is about a month after receipt of
order, so
I guess they make the units only when they have a batch of orders in hand.

Anyway, the unit was delivered by Con-Way Freight on Monday (28 June).. *The
first problem was that despite the shipping documents saying that a
liftgate was
required, no liftgate. *But the truck driver, a big burly guy, managed to
get
the 200# unit to the ground undamaged anyway.

The box was heavily damaged, and was coming apart. *(Not caused by the
driver
letting it down to the ground.) *There were forklift-truck fork holes in
the
side, and three of the four wooden feet (made of 2x4) had been torn off the
box,
which probably explains the fork holes. *The packing list from IR says that
the
unit should have been banded to a pallet; this was not done.

Anyway, the driver and I opened the box, and for all that box damage the
unit
seemed OK, so I accepted the unit, although I did insist that the driver
mark
the shipping document that the box showed fork damage, thus establishing
the
basis for a later latent-damage claim, should it be needed.

The unit is very solid, awkwardly shaped, lacks proper handholds, and very
top-heavy. *It is shipped horizontal. *I was unable to just muscle it into
a
vertical position without danger of dropping it and/or hurting myself, and
so I
just left it laying on the shop floor until today (Saturday). *

To erect the unit, I resorted to ancient methods. *I made a temporary
bridge
gantry with two 6-foot step ladders to which is lashed a 6' long 1.5"
diameter
12L14 steel bar, this affair straddling the supine compressor.

A length of 3/8" diameter nylon rope is tied to the bar, goes twice through
a
steel ring tied to the unit and then over the steel bar, with the free end
wrapped a few times around the bar and tied. *This is basically a
block-and-tackle with 4:1 mechanical advantage implemented with steel rings
and
a round bar, but no pulleys. *(I also have a pulley-based block and tackle,
but
it takes up too much length.)

This worked just fine, with no drama, allowed me to get the unit upright in
stages, until I could just muscle it up to vertical.

Attached the handles, filled the compressor pump with oil, and fired it up.
*
Works just fine. *Much quieter than the AllTrades 5-gallon compressor it
replaces. *The claimed HP of the two motors is the same, 2 HP continuous,
but I
bet that IR horses are larger. *The IR compressor runs at ~1000 RPM, and
has two
cylinders in parallel. *The IR tank is 4 times larger.

The only damage I can find is that when the unit was horizontal, it rested
on
the stem of the pressure relief valve, and the concrete floor ground a bit
of
the valve stem away. *Although the valve still works, I think I'll ask IR
for a
new one, if only to poke them in the ribs. *This is really a design flaw -
if
one will ship horizontal, things should be arranged such that there is a
real
steel foot of some kind to take the load, not some fragile brass valve.
*Nor
should the shipping carton have disintegrated.

Joe Gwinn

I wonder if this uses an 8 pole motor to get the direct drive ~1000
rpm? *Multiple pole motors (I believe) get you more torque, but it may
be difficult to find a generic replacement if it ever fails and you
need to replace it.

No, it's plain old belt drive. *The motor is an ordinary 60 Hz two-pole motor,
with two capacitor humps. *Common as dirt. *I don't think that motor replacement
will be difficult, should it ever be needed.

Here is some data:
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200375221_200375221.

One can download the brochure and manual from this webpage.

Joe Gwinn- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ok, I see. I should have looked at the Northern Tool website myself
before commenting. I thought that direct-drive meant that it would
have a C-face type motor with couplings instead of using pullieys.

On 2010-07-04, Denis G. wrote:
On Jul 4, 9:46*am, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
In article ,
*"Denis G." wrote:





On Jul 3, 7:16*pm, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
The little AllTrades 5-gallon air compressor I had been using since April
2006
was not quite large enough, and was easily outrun. *And VERY LOUD, to the
point
that I had to either leave the shop or wear hearing protectors. *It's a
cast-iron direct-drive oil-lubricated one-piston unit running at 3450 rpm.
*So,
I was in the market for a bigger unit.

[ ... ]

I wonder if this uses an 8 pole motor to get the direct drive ~1000
rpm? *Multiple pole motors (I believe) get you more torque, but it may
be difficult to find a generic replacement if it ever fails and you
need to replace it.

No, it's plain old belt drive. *The motor is an ordinary 60 Hz two-pole motor,
with two capacitor humps. *Common as dirt. *I don't think that motor replacement
will be difficult, should it ever be needed.

Here is some data:
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200375221_200375221.

One can download the brochure and manual from this webpage.

FWIW -- both the manual and the brochure have the same file
name, so if you download them, rename one before it overwrites the
other. :-)

Joe Gwinn- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ok, I see. I should have looked at the Northern Tool website myself
before commenting. I thought that direct-drive meant that it would
have a C-face type motor with couplings instead of using pullieys.

The direct drive was the one which he was replacing, not the new
one.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On Jul 4, 3:55*pm, "DoN. Nichols" wrote:
On 2010-07-04, Denis G. wrote:





On Jul 4, 9:46*am, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
In article ,
*"Denis G." wrote:

On Jul 3, 7:16*pm, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
The little AllTrades 5-gallon air compressor I had been using since April
2006
was not quite large enough, and was easily outrun. *And VERY LOUD, to the
point
that I had to either leave the shop or wear hearing protectors. *It's a
cast-iron direct-drive oil-lubricated one-piston unit running at 3450 rpm.
*So,
I was in the market for a bigger unit.

* * * * [ ... ]

I wonder if this uses an 8 pole motor to get the direct drive ~1000
rpm? *Multiple pole motors (I believe) get you more torque, but it may
be difficult to find a generic replacement if it ever fails and you
need to replace it.

No, it's plain old belt drive. *The motor is an ordinary 60 Hz two-pole motor,
with two capacitor humps. *Common as dirt. *I don't think that motor replacement
will be difficult, should it ever be needed.

Here is some data:
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200375221_200375221.

One can download the brochure and manual from this webpage.

* * * * FWIW -- both the manual and the brochure have the same file
name, so if you download them, rename one before it overwrites the
other. :-)

Joe Gwinn- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ok, I see. *I should have looked at the Northern Tool website myself
before commenting. *I thought that direct-drive meant that it would
have a C-face type motor with couplings instead of using pullieys.

* * * * The direct drive was the one which he was replacing, not the new
one.

* * * * Enjoy,
* * * * * * * * DoN.

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You're right. I'll read more carefully next time! Thanks.