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Any Homemade line boring equipment?
Anyone make their own line boring bar/equipment? It doesn't look that hard
to make and could be handy on jobs that are too big for machine tools. Just wondering if there are any good plans or project info on these. The stuff looks pretty expensive to buy new for what it is. RogerN |
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Any Homemade line boring equipment?
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: Anyone make their own line boring bar/equipment? It doesn't look that hard to make and could be handy on jobs that are too big for machine tools. Just wondering if there are any good plans or project info on these. The stuff looks pretty expensive to buy new for what it is. RogerN I made a simple jig that mounts the work on the cross-slide, and holds the boring tool between centers. It allows me much longer bores than a single-ended boring bar mounted in the tool holder would. It's really nothing more than a plate to which I clamp or screw the work. The boring bar is a piece of 5/8" stock with a hole for the tool bit and a hole for a setscrew, plus center pockets on both ends. Drive it with a dog. About the only drawback is that the bore size is limited to the amount of tool overhang you can afford; with my little 1/4" bit, that's about 1.25"(or a bore of 2.5" max) before chatter kills the job. And, of course, you have to adjust the tool on every cut, rather than moving the cross-slide. But it works. LLoyd |
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Any Homemade line boring equipment?
"RogerN" wrote in message ... Anyone make their own line boring bar/equipment? It doesn't look that hard to make and could be handy on jobs that are too big for machine tools. Just wondering if there are any good plans or project info on these. The stuff looks pretty expensive to buy new for what it is. RogerN Depends on the job. Years ago, on Hopto excavators, my dad would mount an engine cylinder boring machine to the side of the boom to bore out the pivot pin area, to install a replaceble pin in made. |
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Any Homemade line boring equipment?
"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message . 3.70... "RogerN" fired this volley in : Anyone make their own line boring bar/equipment? It doesn't look that hard to make and could be handy on jobs that are too big for machine tools. Just wondering if there are any good plans or project info on these. The stuff looks pretty expensive to buy new for what it is. RogerN I made a simple jig that mounts the work on the cross-slide, and holds the boring tool between centers. It allows me much longer bores than a single-ended boring bar mounted in the tool holder would. It's really nothing more than a plate to which I clamp or screw the work. The boring bar is a piece of 5/8" stock with a hole for the tool bit and a hole for a setscrew, plus center pockets on both ends. Drive it with a dog. About the only drawback is that the bore size is limited to the amount of tool overhang you can afford; with my little 1/4" bit, that's about 1.25"(or a bore of 2.5" max) before chatter kills the job. And, of course, you have to adjust the tool on every cut, rather than moving the cross-slide. But it works. This is essentially how the original boring machines worked. Lots of early automobile engine blocks were actually bored on lathes. Some of the old English MAP books show miniature versions of those old boring setups on lathes. Brit lathes, which traditionally have T-slotted cross slides (or saddles; I forget which) are ideal for that work. -- Ed Huntress |
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Any Homemade line boring equipment?
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 19:59:07 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote: "RogerN" wrote in message ... Anyone make their own line boring bar/equipment? It doesn't look that hard to make and could be handy on jobs that are too big for machine tools. Just wondering if there are any good plans or project info on these. The stuff looks pretty expensive to buy new for what it is. RogerN Depends on the job. Years ago, on Hopto excavators, my dad would mount an engine cylinder boring machine to the side of the boom to bore out the pivot pin area, to install a replaceble pin in made. I seem to recall a rig by Wayne Cook. Maybe he'll chime in. Pete Keillor |
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Any Homemade line boring equipment?
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"RogerN" wrote: Anyone make their own line boring bar/equipment? It doesn't look that hard to make and could be handy on jobs that are too big for machine tools. Just wondering if there are any good plans or project info on these. The stuff looks pretty expensive to buy new for what it is. RogerN Haven't got there yet, but I'm with you. I need one and they seem to be priced too high for what they are. At some point when I asked about it getting an old bridgeport head (from folks rebuilding and upgrading the head) was suggested as a power-unit & feed option. I've also seen mention of getting one from army surplus, but have never seen such myself. -- Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by |
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Any Homemade line boring equipment?
On Mar 2, 7:54*pm, "RogerN" wrote:
Anyone make their own line boring bar/equipment? *It doesn't look that hard to make and could be handy on jobs that are too big for machine tools. *Just wondering if there are any good plans or project info on these. *The stuff looks pretty expensive to buy new for what it is. RogerN A lot of that type of thing is specific to the job at hand, locomotive steam cylinders, VW engine cases, compressor shells, car engines, etc. One of Guy Lautard's Bedside Readers had a description of such a rig and some of Colvin and Stanley's works described what they built up in locomotive shops to redo cylinders in situ. The Model Engineer magazine had a lot of such setups on the old Brit lathes, they had T- slots on the carriages so were easy to rig up. The cutter bar spun between centers and the work was fastened on the carriage and traversed with same. What you need to build is pretty much determined by what you need to machine. A lot of what they used to do with such rigs on a lathe is now done with boring heads on a mill. Basically all you need is a tool holder, a way to guide it through the rough bore, a method of spinning it and another one to periodically move it down the line. You'll also need some way of fastening the works so it doesn't move relative to the workpiece. The last could be easy or could be hard, depending on what you want to work on. A star wheel advance for the cutter is pretty easy to rig. Stan |
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Any Homemade line boring equipment?
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:24:47 -0600, Pete Keillor wrote:
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 19:59:07 -0800, "Bill McKee"... wrote: "RogerN" regor... wrote ... Anyone make their own line boring bar/equipment? It doesn't look that hard to make and could be handy on jobs that are too big for machine tools. Just wondering if there are any good plans or project info on these. The stuff looks pretty expensive to buy new for what it is. Depends on the job. Years ago, on Hopto excavators, my dad would mount an engine cylinder boring machine to the side of the boom to bore out the pivot pin area, to install a replaceble pin in made. I seem to recall a rig by Wayne Cook. Maybe he'll chime in. Or maybe not ~ but anyway, in DropBox/_2002_retired_files, see: http://www.metalworking.com/DropBox/_2002_retired_files/Lineboring00.txt http://www.metalworking.com/DropBox/_2002_retired_files/Lineboring01.jpg http://www.metalworking.com/DropBox/_2002_retired_files/Lineboring02.jpg http://www.metalworking.com/DropBox/_2002_retired_files/Lineboring03.jpg (Per 2002 section of http://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook/dropbox.htm ) -- jiw |
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