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Bell Ringing Mechanism
We need a Bell Ringing Mechanism for our church. The bell is about 16"
tall and about 16" in diameter. It has a clapper with a hole in the bottom that was formerly activated by a simple mechanism that frequently failed. The mechanism pulled a rope attached to the clapper. We do prefer an electrically operated mechanism that we will simply switch on and off for the duration of the ringing. So any ideas? Thanks Bob AZ |
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Bell Ringing Mechanism
"Bob AZ" wrote in message ... We need a Bell Ringing Mechanism for our church. The bell is about 16" tall and about 16" in diameter. It has a clapper with a hole in the bottom that was formerly activated by a simple mechanism that frequently failed. The mechanism pulled a rope attached to the clapper. We do prefer an electrically operated mechanism that we will simply switch on and off for the duration of the ringing. So any ideas? Thanks Bob AZ http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=45921 |
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So any ideas?
How about a large solonoid? Just don't act un-christian, like these guys. http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2.../city-light-2/ |
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Bell Ringing Mechanism
To ring a bell, you pull the rope at the natural frequency of the bell
pendulum. Then release on the back stroke. One suggestion, use an air cylinder. Apply air to pull rope then retract. Fit it with exhaust valves to control speed and adjustable limits to control stroke. Use a PLC to fire the air solenoids and set the time between actions. Second suggestion might not work but is much simpler. Attach a leverarm to a gear motor with adjustable speed. Set it to pull the rope at the natural harmonic frequency. For this to work, the motor is going to have to pull the rope quick enough that slack develops on the end of the pull stroke, allowing the leverarm to get back without tension on the rope. there might be an ingenious mechanism to deal with this issue. Karl |
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A good engineer would study the process first...
Mark the rope with a scale and a timer behind it. Video it when ringing in steady state by hand just like you'd like it. Now watch the video frame by frame for time and position. With good data on where the puller needs to be vs. time a great simple mechanism should be easy to design. Karl |
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Bell Ringing Mechanism
"Bob AZ" wrote in message ... We need a Bell Ringing Mechanism for our church. The bell is about 16" tall and about 16" in diameter. It has a clapper with a hole in the bottom that was formerly activated by a simple mechanism that frequently failed. The mechanism pulled a rope attached to the clapper. We do prefer an electrically operated mechanism that we will simply switch on and off for the duration of the ringing. So any ideas? Thanks Bob AZ Use a gear motor with a cam to quickly pull and release the rope (or cable). Select rpm of cam to suit frequency of chimes. A cam speed of 20 rpm would yield a chime every 3 seconds. A heavy duty spring in the rope or cable might be necessary to allow the clapper to bounce, making the exact length of the rope or cable less critical. |
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Bell Ringing Mechanism
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:25:37 -0700 (PDT), Bob AZ wrote:
We need a Bell Ringing Mechanism for our church. The bell is about 16" tall and about 16" in diameter. It has a clapper with a hole in the bottom that was formerly activated by a simple mechanism that frequently failed. The mechanism pulled a rope attached to the clapper. We do prefer an electrically operated mechanism that we will simply switch on and off for the duration of the ringing. So any ideas? Thanks Bob AZ Spring-return solenoid at the bell end, timing motor running simple cam and roller-micro-switch to make it go. |
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On Mar 19, 7:25*pm, Bob AZ wrote:
We need a Bell Ringing Mechanism for our church. The bell is about 16" tall and about 16" in diameter. It has a clapper with a hole in the bottom that was formerly activated by a simple *mechanism that frequently failed. The mechanism pulled a rope attached to the clapper. We do prefer an electrically operated mechanism that we will simply switch on and off for the duration of the ringing. So any ideas? Thanks Bob *AZ Why not call the last church bell manufacturing company in the US and order one in the size for your bell. They'll even show up and install it for a fee. They were on Dirty Jobs a couple years ago. http://www.mcshanebell.com/ and here's the bell ringer page. http://www.mcshanebell.com/services/bellringers.html Karl |
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Bell Ringing Mechanism
On Mar 19, 7:25*pm, Bob AZ wrote:
We need a Bell Ringing Mechanism for our church. The bell is about 16" tall and about 16" in diameter. It has a clapper with a hole in the bottom that was formerly activated by a simple *mechanism that frequently failed. The mechanism pulled a rope attached to the clapper. We do prefer an electrically operated mechanism that we will simply switch on and off for the duration of the ringing. So any ideas? Thanks Bob *AZ I forgot to say or look at them to get ideas and make your own. This youtube link shows one version and it's funny. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEFeveR6UU Karl |
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Bell Ringing Mechanism
"Bob AZ" wrote in message ... We need a Bell Ringing Mechanism for our church. The bell is about 16" tall and about 16" in diameter. It has a clapper with a hole in the bottom that was formerly activated by a simple mechanism that frequently failed. The mechanism pulled a rope attached to the clapper. We do prefer an electrically operated mechanism that we will simply switch on and off for the duration of the ringing. So any ideas? Thanks Bob AZ I would think about a solenoid in place of the clapper. To actuate the solenoid, you could either design an electronic circuit or you could make a cam that runs on a gear reduction motor to trigger a switch. -- Roger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff. |
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Bell Ringing Mechanism
On Mar 21, 3:39�am, kfvorwerk wrote:
On Mar 19, 7:25�pm, Bob �AZ wrote: We need a Bell Ringing Mechanism for our church. The bell is about 16" tall and about 16" in diameter. It has a clapper with a hole in the bottom that was formerly activated by a simple �mechanism that frequently failed. The mechanism pulled a rope attached to the clapper. We do prefer an electrically operated mechanism that we will simply switch on and off for the duration of the ringing. So any ideas? Thanks Bob �AZ I forgot to say or look at them to get ideas and make your own. This youtube link shows one version and it's funny.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEFeveR6UU Karl Karl et al. Thanks for the link. I also found some others that I will call Monday. FWIW I did do a google search but apparently did not use the correct search words. Thanks to all. Take care Bob AZ |
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