Monday, January 19, 2009 4:46 PM

By: Jim Meyers

Barack Obama has yet to be sworn in as president, but he’s already been
bedeviled by a series of miscues and unfortunate revelations.

Among them:

Obama named Timothy Geithner as his Treasury secretary, only to find out
that Geithner had failed to pay $34,000 in taxes several years ago.


Geithner, who in his post would be the head of the IRS, did not pay
self-employment taxes for money he earned from 2001 to 2004 while
working for the International Monetary Fund.

He paid some of the taxes in 2006, after an IRS audit, but it wasn't
until days before Obama tapped him to head Treasury that he paid back
the rest.

New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson withdrew his nomination to be Obama's
commerce secretary amid a grand jury investigation.


The jury is investigating how a California company that contributed to
Richardson's political activities won a New Mexico state contract worth
more than $1 billion.

The arrest of Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich was an embarrassment to
Obama, whose ties to the governor run primarily through Chicago slum
lord and felon Tony Rezko.


Rezko served as the political godfather for both Blagojevich and Obama,
helping both to rise in Chicago and Illinois politics. Obama himself has
credited Rezko with helping bolster his political career.

Rezko raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for both politicians.

The FBI charges that Blagojevich conspired to sell the Illinois Senate
seat vacated by Obama.

Obama personally endorsed Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s stance
against seating Roland Burris to replace Obama in the Senate after
Burris was appointed by scandal-scarred Gov. Blagojevich.


But Obama and Reid eventually had to back down, and Obama conceded that
when the Senate seats Burris “I’m going to work with Roland Burris just
like I work with all the other senators.”

Obama’s choice for Attorney General, Eric Holder, acknowledged that he
made mistakes in the 2001 pardon of fugitive financier Marc Rich when
Holder was Clinton’s deputy attorney general.


Rich's wife was a major donor to the Democratic Party and to Clinton's
library. Holder urged Rich's lawyer to solicit a pardon directly from
the White House.

Holder has also been criticized for his role in the April 2000
government raid that led to the return of a Cuban boy, Elian Gonzales,
to his homeland, and for the pardons of 16 Puerto Rican nationalists
responsible for a series of bombings that killed six people and injured
dozens more.

Obama’s appointment of Leon Panetta as the new CIA director drew howls
of protest from Sen. Diane Feinstein, chair of the Senate intelligence
committee.


Panetta has no experience with the intelligence community, and Feinstein
issued a statement making it clear she preferred a career intelligence
professional.

Reports surfaced that Obama’s choice to be his global warming czar,
former EPA administrator Carol Browner, was listed as one of 14 leaders
of a socialist group's Commission for a Sustainable World Society.


The organization calls for "global governance" and says rich countries
must shrink their economies to address climate change, according to the
Washington Times.

Obama was also criticized for his appointment of Arizona Gov. Janet
Napolitano as secretary of Homeland Security.


“He could have selected a Rudy Giuliani or a Louis Free or a Ray Kelly —
anyone with real life experience in battling terrorists,” political
analyst Dick Morris observed.

“Instead he chose a governor with no knowledge of the subject whose
obvious credential is her proximity to the border.”

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/oba...19/173032.html

And this
A telecommunications company has confirmed for this columnist that its
vice president for policy—who is also an Obama donor and a former
lobbyist—is advising Barack Obama’s transition team on telecom policy.

Obama’s transition team, which has failed to disclose this executive’s
involvement, happens to have proposed a significant change in telecom
policy that will profit that very company, called Clearwire.

By pushing to delay the long-scheduled transition of television
broadcasting from analog signals to digital signals, president-elect
Obama is directly aiding Sprint and its partner Clearwire while hurting
Verizon.

Sanchez’s detailed and well-reported article on Ars Technica called to
light these conflicts of interest—and the fact that Salemme’s name is
nowhere to be found on Change.gov. As of yesterday, the Obama transition
team still hadn’t addressed the concerns or added Salemme’s name. The
transition team did not return a phone call or respond to an email
request for comment from this author.

http://www.dcexaminer.com/opinion/co...TimothyCarney/
Obamas_secret_telecom_advisor_pushing_his_companys _interest_011609.html

On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:32:54 -0500, "Steve W."
wrote:



Geeze. Louise, give the MAN half a chance will you?
What president in the modern era (or even before) has been surrounded
by a cadre of perfect people?

You are dealing with POLITICIANS, so the chances of something untoward
being discovered are higher than in the "general population".

Monday, January 19, 2009 4:46 PM

By: Jim Meyers

Barack Obama has yet to be sworn in as president, but hes already been
bedeviled by a series of miscues and unfortunate revelations.

Among them:

Obama named Timothy Geithner as his Treasury secretary, only to find out
that Geithner had failed to pay $34,000 in taxes several years ago.


Geithner, who in his post would be the head of the IRS, did not pay
self-employment taxes for money he earned from 2001 to 2004 while
working for the International Monetary Fund.

He paid some of the taxes in 2006, after an IRS audit, but it wasn't
until days before Obama tapped him to head Treasury that he paid back
the rest.

New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson withdrew his nomination to be Obama's
commerce secretary amid a grand jury investigation.


The jury is investigating how a California company that contributed to
Richardson's political activities won a New Mexico state contract worth
more than $1 billion.

The arrest of Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich was an embarrassment to
Obama, whose ties to the governor run primarily through Chicago slum
lord and felon Tony Rezko.


Rezko served as the political godfather for both Blagojevich and Obama,
helping both to rise in Chicago and Illinois politics. Obama himself has
credited Rezko with helping bolster his political career.

Rezko raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for both politicians.

The FBI charges that Blagojevich conspired to sell the Illinois Senate
seat vacated by Obama.

Obama personally endorsed Senate Majority Leader Harry Reids stance
against seating Roland Burris to replace Obama in the Senate after
Burris was appointed by scandal-scarred Gov. Blagojevich.


But Obama and Reid eventually had to back down, and Obama conceded that
when the Senate seats Burris €œIm going to work with Roland Burris just
like I work with all the other senators.€�

Obamas choice for Attorney General, Eric Holder, acknowledged that he
made mistakes in the 2001 pardon of fugitive financier Marc Rich when
Holder was Clintons deputy attorney general.


Rich's wife was a major donor to the Democratic Party and to Clinton's
library. Holder urged Rich's lawyer to solicit a pardon directly from
the White House.

Holder has also been criticized for his role in the April 2000
government raid that led to the return of a Cuban boy, Elian Gonzales,
to his homeland, and for the pardons of 16 Puerto Rican nationalists
responsible for a series of bombings that killed six people and injured
dozens more.

Obamas appointment of Leon Panetta as the new CIA director drew howls
of protest from Sen. Diane Feinstein, chair of the Senate intelligence
committee.


Panetta has no experience with the intelligence community, and Feinstein
issued a statement making it clear she preferred a career intelligence
professional.

Reports surfaced that Obamas choice to be his global warming czar,
former EPA administrator Carol Browner, was listed as one of 14 leaders
of a socialist group's Commission for a Sustainable World Society.


The organization calls for "global governance" and says rich countries
must shrink their economies to address climate change, according to the
Washington Times.

Obama was also criticized for his appointment of Arizona Gov. Janet
Napolitano as secretary of Homeland Security.


€œHe could have selected a Rudy Giuliani or a Louis Free or a Ray Kelly €”
anyone with real life experience in battling terrorists,€� political
analyst Dick Morris observed.

€œInstead he chose a governor with no knowledge of the subject whose
obvious credential is her proximity to the border.€�

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/oba...19/173032.html

And this
A telecommunications company has confirmed for this columnist that its
vice president for policy€”who is also an Obama donor and a former
lobbyist€”is advising Barack Obamas transition team on telecom policy.

Obamas transition team, which has failed to disclose this executives
involvement, happens to have proposed a significant change in telecom
policy that will profit that very company, called Clearwire.

By pushing to delay the long-scheduled transition of television
broadcasting from analog signals to digital signals, president-elect
Obama is directly aiding Sprint and its partner Clearwire while hurting
Verizon.

Sanchezs detailed and well-reported article on Ars Technica called to
light these conflicts of interest€”and the fact that Salemmes name is
nowhere to be found on Change.gov. As of yesterday, the Obama transition
team still hadnt addressed the concerns or added Salemmes name. The
transition team did not return a phone call or respond to an email
request for comment from this author.

http://www.dcexaminer.com/opinion/co...TimothyCarney/
Obamas_secret_telecom_advisor_pushing_his_company s_interest_011609.html

"Steve W." wrote in message
...


Monday, January 19, 2009 4:46 PM

By: Jim Meyers

Barack Obama has yet to be sworn in as president, but he’s already been
bedeviled by a series of miscues and unfortunate revelations.

Among them:
snip

I didn't vote for Obama but I have to say that I'm fairly impressed with him
so far. Yea, he has some issues with appointees but think...he has to
choose among Democrats! This means the pickings are pretty slim to get
anyone un-tainted. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he is able
to separate the campaign rhetoric from the real world. Notice how quickly
he has abandoned the fringe left? And, boy are they ****ed! My biggest
concerns are how he's going to handle outrageous spending and global
warming(kumbaya).

On Jan 20, 4:10*pm, "Buerste" wrote:
"Steve W." wrote in message

...

Monday, January 19, 2009 4:46 PM

By: Jim Meyers

Barack Obama has yet to be sworn in as president, but he’s already been
bedeviled by a series of miscues and unfortunate revelations.

Among them:

snip

I didn't vote for Obama but I have to say that I'm fairly impressed with him
so far. *Yea, he has some issues with appointees but think...he has to
choose among Democrats! *This means the pickings are pretty slim to get
anyone un-tainted. *I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he is able
to separate the campaign rhetoric from the real world. *Notice how quickly
he has abandoned the fringe left? *And, boy are they ****ed! *My biggest
concerns are how he's going to handle outrageous spending and global
warming(kumbaya).

I too am impressed ... so far.

As for the outrageous spending by Bush...look for serious cuts by
Obama.

As for the train wreck Bush economy, well the train wreck is still
crashing. Look for some serious government spending to hopefully
cushion the landing...otherwise many of us here will be living under a
bridge. It has all the indications that it could get that bad...Obama
has to get this one right the first time.

As for global warming...well boys and girls we need to face the
facts..global warming is real and those CO2 emissions need to be cut.
One irony is that the global recession ..thanks to George Bush..is
forcing reducing CO2 emissions. The downside is that we are eight
years too late..thanks George.

And if you don't believe too much CO2 is not good for you...hold your
breath and watch what happens.

TMT

On Jan 20, 4:10*pm, "Buerste" wrote:
"Steve W." wrote in message

...

Monday, January 19, 2009 4:46 PM

By: Jim Meyers

Barack Obama has yet to be sworn in as president, but he’s already been
bedeviled by a series of miscues and unfortunate revelations.

Among them:

snip

I didn't vote for Obama but I have to say that I'm fairly impressed with him
so far. *Yea, he has some issues with appointees but think...he has to
choose among Democrats! *This means the pickings are pretty slim to get
anyone un-tainted. *I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he is able
to separate the campaign rhetoric from the real world. *Notice how quickly
he has abandoned the fringe left? *And, boy are they ****ed! *My biggest
concerns are how he's going to handle outrageous spending and global
warming(kumbaya).

The fringe left ****ed?

LOL...try checking out the right wing losers. ;)

TMT

"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
...
On Jan 20, 4:10 pm, "Buerste" wrote:
"Steve W." wrote in message

...

Monday, January 19, 2009 4:46 PM

By: Jim Meyers

Barack Obama has yet to be sworn in as president, but he’s already been
bedeviled by a series of miscues and unfortunate revelations.

Among them:

snip

I didn't vote for Obama but I have to say that I'm fairly impressed with
him
so far. Yea, he has some issues with appointees but think...he has to
choose among Democrats! This means the pickings are pretty slim to get
anyone un-tainted. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he is able
to separate the campaign rhetoric from the real world. Notice how quickly
he has abandoned the fringe left? And, boy are they ****ed! My biggest
concerns are how he's going to handle outrageous spending and global
warming(kumbaya).

I too am impressed ... so far.

As for the outrageous spending by Bush...look for serious cuts by
Obama.

***********************************************
You mean, Bush didn't veto Congress's spending? And, the last two years was
a DEMOCRATIC Congress. Nice try though, your BDS is showing!
*************************************************

As for the train wreck Bush economy, well the train wreck is still
crashing. Look for some serious government spending to hopefully
cushion the landing...otherwise many of us here will be living under a
bridge. It has all the indications that it could get that bad...Obama
has to get this one right the first time.

*************************************************
Again, DEMOCRATIC Congress's train wreck!

***********************************************
As for global warming...well boys and girls we need to face the
facts..global warming is real and those CO2 emissions need to be cut.
One irony is that the global recession ..thanks to George Bush..is
forcing reducing CO2 emissions. The downside is that we are eight
years too late..thanks George.

***********************************************
BULL****!!! No such thing as "CO2 caused GW. You are a Kool-Aid guzzler if
you believe the junk science perpetrated on the stupid masses!
**********************************************

And if you don't believe too much CO2 is not good for you...hold your
breath and watch what happens.

TMT
***********************************************
That was about the stupidest thing you have ever said!

"Steve W." wrote in message
...


Reports surfaced that Obama’s choice to be his global warming czar,
former EPA administrator Carol Browner, was listed as one of 14 leaders
of a socialist group's Commission for a Sustainable World Society.


The organization calls for "global governance" and says rich countries
must shrink their economies to address climate change, according to the
Washington Times.

The Washington Times- cult mouthpiece for Sun Myung Moon, founder of the
Unification Church

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Times

"Buerste" wrote in message
...

"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
...
On Jan 20, 4:10 pm, "Buerste" wrote:
"Steve W." wrote in message

...

Monday, January 19, 2009 4:46 PM

By: Jim Meyers

Barack Obama has yet to be sworn in as president, but he's already been
bedeviled by a series of miscues and unfortunate revelations.

Among them:

snip

I didn't vote for Obama but I have to say that I'm fairly impressed with
him
so far. Yea, he has some issues with appointees but think...he has to
choose among Democrats! This means the pickings are pretty slim to get
anyone un-tainted. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he is able
to separate the campaign rhetoric from the real world. Notice how quickly
he has abandoned the fringe left? And, boy are they ****ed! My biggest
concerns are how he's going to handle outrageous spending and global
warming(kumbaya).

I too am impressed ... so far.

As for the outrageous spending by Bush...look for serious cuts by
Obama.

***********************************************
You mean, Bush didn't veto Congress's spending? And, the last two years
was a DEMOCRATIC Congress. Nice try though, your BDS is showing!
*************************************************

As for the train wreck Bush economy, well the train wreck is still
crashing. Look for some serious government spending to hopefully
cushion the landing...otherwise many of us here will be living under a
bridge. It has all the indications that it could get that bad...Obama
has to get this one right the first time.

*************************************************
Again, DEMOCRATIC Congress's train wreck!

***********************************************
As for global warming...well boys and girls we need to face the
facts..global warming is real and those CO2 emissions need to be cut.
One irony is that the global recession ..thanks to George Bush..is
forcing reducing CO2 emissions. The downside is that we are eight
years too late..thanks George.

***********************************************
BULL****!!! No such thing as "CO2 caused GW. You are a Kool-Aid guzzler
if you believe the junk science perpetrated on the stupid masses!
**********************************************

And if you don't believe too much CO2 is not good for you...hold your
breath and watch what happens.

TMT
***********************************************
That was about the stupidest thing you have ever said!

Tom, I can't tell from that exchange and the way you replied which parts are
from TMT and which are from you; I have him blocked so I didn't see his
original.

The alarming thing is that they both look the same. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

"Buerste" wrote in message
...

"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
...
On Jan 20, 4:10 pm, "Buerste" wrote:
"Steve W." wrote in message

...

Monday, January 19, 2009 4:46 PM

By: Jim Meyers

Barack Obama has yet to be sworn in as president, but he's already
been
bedeviled by a series of miscues and unfortunate revelations.

Among them:

snip

I didn't vote for Obama but I have to say that I'm fairly impressed with
him
so far. Yea, he has some issues with appointees but think...he has to
choose among Democrats! This means the pickings are pretty slim to get
anyone un-tainted. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he is
able
to separate the campaign rhetoric from the real world. Notice how
quickly
he has abandoned the fringe left? And, boy are they ****ed! My biggest
concerns are how he's going to handle outrageous spending and global
warming(kumbaya).

I too am impressed ... so far.

As for the outrageous spending by Bush...look for serious cuts by
Obama.

***********************************************
You mean, Bush didn't veto Congress's spending? And, the last two years
was a DEMOCRATIC Congress. Nice try though, your BDS is showing!
*************************************************

As for the train wreck Bush economy, well the train wreck is still
crashing. Look for some serious government spending to hopefully
cushion the landing...otherwise many of us here will be living under a
bridge. It has all the indications that it could get that bad...Obama
has to get this one right the first time.

*************************************************
Again, DEMOCRATIC Congress's train wreck!

***********************************************
As for global warming...well boys and girls we need to face the
facts..global warming is real and those CO2 emissions need to be cut.
One irony is that the global recession ..thanks to George Bush..is
forcing reducing CO2 emissions. The downside is that we are eight
years too late..thanks George.

***********************************************
BULL****!!! No such thing as "CO2 caused GW. You are a Kool-Aid guzzler
if you believe the junk science perpetrated on the stupid masses!
**********************************************

And if you don't believe too much CO2 is not good for you...hold your
breath and watch what happens.

TMT
***********************************************
That was about the stupidest thing you have ever said!

Tom, I can't tell from that exchange and the way you replied which parts
are from TMT and which are from you; I have him blocked so I didn't see
his original.

The alarming thing is that they both look the same. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress


Well, WTF? Why didn't GWB get impeached since he was evil incarnate and
caused crabgrass in my front yard? Ed, are you a big fan of AGW? If so,
your brain leaked out. I may not be well educated, or intelligent, or wise
but don't dare put me in the same sentence with Too_many_Trolls!

"Buerste" wrote in message
news

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

"Buerste" wrote in message
...

"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
...
On Jan 20, 4:10 pm, "Buerste" wrote:
"Steve W." wrote in message

...

Monday, January 19, 2009 4:46 PM

By: Jim Meyers

Barack Obama has yet to be sworn in as president, but he's already
been
bedeviled by a series of miscues and unfortunate revelations.

Among them:

snip

I didn't vote for Obama but I have to say that I'm fairly impressed
with him
so far. Yea, he has some issues with appointees but think...he has to
choose among Democrats! This means the pickings are pretty slim to get
anyone un-tainted. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he is
able
to separate the campaign rhetoric from the real world. Notice how
quickly
he has abandoned the fringe left? And, boy are they ****ed! My biggest
concerns are how he's going to handle outrageous spending and global
warming(kumbaya).

I too am impressed ... so far.

As for the outrageous spending by Bush...look for serious cuts by
Obama.

***********************************************
You mean, Bush didn't veto Congress's spending? And, the last two years
was a DEMOCRATIC Congress. Nice try though, your BDS is showing!
*************************************************

As for the train wreck Bush economy, well the train wreck is still
crashing. Look for some serious government spending to hopefully
cushion the landing...otherwise many of us here will be living under a
bridge. It has all the indications that it could get that bad...Obama
has to get this one right the first time.

*************************************************
Again, DEMOCRATIC Congress's train wreck!

***********************************************
As for global warming...well boys and girls we need to face the
facts..global warming is real and those CO2 emissions need to be cut.
One irony is that the global recession ..thanks to George Bush..is
forcing reducing CO2 emissions. The downside is that we are eight
years too late..thanks George.

***********************************************
BULL****!!! No such thing as "CO2 caused GW. You are a Kool-Aid
guzzler if you believe the junk science perpetrated on the stupid
masses!
**********************************************

And if you don't believe too much CO2 is not good for you...hold your
breath and watch what happens.

TMT
***********************************************
That was about the stupidest thing you have ever said!

Tom, I can't tell from that exchange and the way you replied which parts
are from TMT and which are from you; I have him blocked so I didn't see
his original.

The alarming thing is that they both look the same. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress


Well, WTF? Why didn't GWB get impeached since he was evil incarnate and
caused crabgrass in my front yard?

Causing crabgrass to grow is not an impeachable offense.

Ed, are you a big fan of AGW? If so, your brain leaked out.

Who the hell or what the hell is AGW?

I may not be well educated, or intelligent, or wise but don't dare put me
in the same sentence with Too_many_Trolls!

Oh, I think you're intelligent, and you seem well educated. And you can be a
wiseguy at times...

However, I wasn't saying anything about you and TMT except to remark that,
without the normal attributions, I couldn't tell who was being sarcastic and
who was not, nor which of you was which, because you both were talking in
the same misanthropic and juvenile tone of voice.

It was just an observation about a curious thing that struck me funny. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

"Buerste" wrote in message
news

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

"Buerste" wrote in message
...

"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
...
On Jan 20, 4:10 pm, "Buerste" wrote:
"Steve W." wrote in message

...

Monday, January 19, 2009 4:46 PM

By: Jim Meyers

Barack Obama has yet to be sworn in as president, but he's already
been
bedeviled by a series of miscues and unfortunate revelations.

Among them:

snip

I didn't vote for Obama but I have to say that I'm fairly impressed
with him
so far. Yea, he has some issues with appointees but think...he has to
choose among Democrats! This means the pickings are pretty slim to get
anyone un-tainted. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he is
able
to separate the campaign rhetoric from the real world. Notice how
quickly
he has abandoned the fringe left? And, boy are they ****ed! My biggest
concerns are how he's going to handle outrageous spending and global
warming(kumbaya).

I too am impressed ... so far.

As for the outrageous spending by Bush...look for serious cuts by
Obama.

***********************************************
You mean, Bush didn't veto Congress's spending? And, the last two
years was a DEMOCRATIC Congress. Nice try though, your BDS is showing!
*************************************************

As for the train wreck Bush economy, well the train wreck is still
crashing. Look for some serious government spending to hopefully
cushion the landing...otherwise many of us here will be living under a
bridge. It has all the indications that it could get that bad...Obama
has to get this one right the first time.

*************************************************
Again, DEMOCRATIC Congress's train wreck!

***********************************************
As for global warming...well boys and girls we need to face the
facts..global warming is real and those CO2 emissions need to be cut.
One irony is that the global recession ..thanks to George Bush..is
forcing reducing CO2 emissions. The downside is that we are eight
years too late..thanks George.

***********************************************
BULL****!!! No such thing as "CO2 caused GW. You are a Kool-Aid
guzzler if you believe the junk science perpetrated on the stupid
masses!
**********************************************

And if you don't believe too much CO2 is not good for you...hold your
breath and watch what happens.

TMT
***********************************************
That was about the stupidest thing you have ever said!

Tom, I can't tell from that exchange and the way you replied which parts
are from TMT and which are from you; I have him blocked so I didn't see
his original.

The alarming thing is that they both look the same. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress


Well, WTF? Why didn't GWB get impeached since he was evil incarnate and
caused crabgrass in my front yard?

Causing crabgrass to grow is not an impeachable offense.

Ed, are you a big fan of AGW? If so, your brain leaked out.

Who the hell or what the hell is AGW?

I may not be well educated, or intelligent, or wise but don't dare put me
in the same sentence with Too_many_Trolls!

Oh, I think you're intelligent, and you seem well educated. And you can be
a wiseguy at times...

However, I wasn't saying anything about you and TMT except to remark that,
without the normal attributions, I couldn't tell who was being sarcastic
and who was not, nor which of you was which, because you both were talking
in the same misanthropic and juvenile tone of voice.

It was just an observation about a curious thing that struck me funny.
d8-)

--
Ed Huntress



Does your wife have any new authors that she likes? I'm always nervous if I
don't have at least the next two or three books lined up. Ask her if she
reads Janet Evanovich? Laugh-out-loud, wet-your-pants funny! One of the
few authors I will pay full hard-back price for the latest.

On Jan 20, 8:20*pm, "Buerste" wrote:
"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message

...
On Jan 20, 4:10 pm, "Buerste" wrote:





"Steve W." wrote in message

...

Monday, January 19, 2009 4:46 PM

By: Jim Meyers

Barack Obama has yet to be sworn in as president, but he’s already been
bedeviled by a series of miscues and unfortunate revelations.

Among them:

snip

I didn't vote for Obama but I have to say that I'm fairly impressed with
him
so far. Yea, he has some issues with appointees but think...he has to
choose among Democrats! This means the pickings are pretty slim to get
anyone un-tainted. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he is able
to separate the campaign rhetoric from the real world. Notice how quickly
he has abandoned the fringe left? And, boy are they ****ed! My biggest
concerns are how he's going to handle outrageous spending and global
warming(kumbaya).

I too am impressed ... so far.

As for the outrageous spending by Bush...look for serious cuts by
Obama.

***********************************************
You mean, Bush didn't veto Congress's spending? *And, the last two years was
a DEMOCRATIC Congress. *Nice try though, your BDS is showing!
*************************************************

As for the train wreck Bush economy, well the train wreck is still
crashing. Look for some serious government spending to hopefully
cushion the landing...otherwise many of us here will be living under a
bridge. It has all the indications that it could get that bad...Obama
has to get this one right the first time.

*************************************************
Again, DEMOCRATIC Congress's train wreck!

***********************************************
As for global warming...well boys and girls we need to face the
facts..global warming is real and those CO2 emissions need to be cut.
One irony is that the global recession ..thanks to George Bush..is
forcing reducing CO2 emissions. The downside is that we are eight
years too late..thanks George.

***********************************************
BULL****!!! *No such thing as "CO2 caused GW. *You are a Kool-Aid guzzler if
you believe the junk science perpetrated on the stupid masses!
**********************************************

And if you don't believe too much CO2 is not good for you...hold your
breath and watch what happens.

TMT
***********************************************
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Why don't you go play with the other children?

Us grownups have real work to do now rebuilding this Country.

TMT

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On Jan 20, 4:10 pm, "Buerste" wrote:
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Monday, January 19, 2009 4:46 PM

By: Jim Meyers

Barack Obama has yet to be sworn in as president, but he's already been
bedeviled by a series of miscues and unfortunate revelations.

Among them:

snip

I didn't vote for Obama but I have to say that I'm fairly impressed with
him
so far. Yea, he has some issues with appointees but think...he has to
choose among Democrats! This means the pickings are pretty slim to get
anyone un-tainted. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he is able
to separate the campaign rhetoric from the real world. Notice how quickly
he has abandoned the fringe left? And, boy are they ****ed! My biggest
concerns are how he's going to handle outrageous spending and global
warming(kumbaya).

I too am impressed ... so far.

As for the outrageous spending by Bush...look for serious cuts by
Obama.

***********************************************
You mean, Bush didn't veto Congress's spending? *And, the last two years
was a DEMOCRATIC Congress. *Nice try though, your BDS is showing!
*************************************************

As for the train wreck Bush economy, well the train wreck is still
crashing. Look for some serious government spending to hopefully
cushion the landing...otherwise many of us here will be living under a
bridge. It has all the indications that it could get that bad...Obama
has to get this one right the first time.

*************************************************
Again, DEMOCRATIC Congress's train wreck!

***********************************************
As for global warming...well boys and girls we need to face the
facts..global warming is real and those CO2 emissions need to be cut.
One irony is that the global recession ..thanks to George Bush..is
forcing reducing CO2 emissions. The downside is that we are eight
years too late..thanks George.

***********************************************
BULL****!!! *No such thing as "CO2 caused GW. *You are a Kool-Aid guzzler
if you believe the junk science perpetrated on the stupid masses!
**********************************************

And if you don't believe too much CO2 is not good for you...hold your
breath and watch what happens.

TMT
***********************************************
That was about the stupidest thing you have ever said!

Tom, I can't tell from that exchange and the way you replied which parts are
from TMT and which are from you; I have him blocked so I didn't see his
original.

The alarming thing is that they both look the same. d8-)

--
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- Show quoted text -

Me blocked?

Damn...I'll wear that as a badge of honor Ed.

Remember we have a date to get back together a year from now and see
who was right about where the economy is headed.

TMT

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On Jan 20, 4:10 pm, "Buerste" wrote:
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Monday, January 19, 2009 4:46 PM

By: Jim Meyers

Barack Obama has yet to be sworn in as president, but he's already
been
bedeviled by a series of miscues and unfortunate revelations.

Among them:

snip

I didn't vote for Obama but I have to say that I'm fairly impressed with
him
so far. Yea, he has some issues with appointees but think...he has to
choose among Democrats! This means the pickings are pretty slim to get
anyone un-tainted. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he is
able
to separate the campaign rhetoric from the real world. Notice how
quickly
he has abandoned the fringe left? And, boy are they ****ed! My biggest
concerns are how he's going to handle outrageous spending and global
warming(kumbaya).

I too am impressed ... so far.

As for the outrageous spending by Bush...look for serious cuts by
Obama.

***********************************************
You mean, Bush didn't veto Congress's spending? *And, the last two years
was a DEMOCRATIC Congress. *Nice try though, your BDS is showing!
*************************************************

As for the train wreck Bush economy, well the train wreck is still
crashing. Look for some serious government spending to hopefully
cushion the landing...otherwise many of us here will be living under a
bridge. It has all the indications that it could get that bad...Obama
has to get this one right the first time.

*************************************************
Again, DEMOCRATIC Congress's train wreck!

***********************************************
As for global warming...well boys and girls we need to face the
facts..global warming is real and those CO2 emissions need to be cut.
One irony is that the global recession ..thanks to George Bush..is
forcing reducing CO2 emissions. The downside is that we are eight
years too late..thanks George.

***********************************************
BULL****!!! *No such thing as "CO2 caused GW. *You are a Kool-Aid guzzler
if you believe the junk science perpetrated on the stupid masses!
**********************************************

And if you don't believe too much CO2 is not good for you...hold your
breath and watch what happens.

TMT
***********************************************
That was about the stupidest thing you have ever said!

Tom, I can't tell from that exchange and the way you replied which parts
are from TMT and which are from you; I have him blocked so I didn't see
his original.

The alarming thing is that they both look the same. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

Well, WTF? *Why didn't GWB get impeached since he was evil incarnate and
caused crabgrass in my front yard? *Ed, are you a big fan of AGW? *If so,
your brain leaked out. *I may not be well educated, or intelligent, or wise
but don't dare put me in the same sentence with Too_many_Trolls!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Patience child patience.

The wheels of justice turn slowly and the new Adminstration hasn't
been around for 24 hours yet.

TMT

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On Jan 20, 4:10 pm, "Buerste" wrote:
"Steve W." wrote in message

...

Monday, January 19, 2009 4:46 PM

By: Jim Meyers

Barack Obama has yet to be sworn in as president, but he's already
been
bedeviled by a series of miscues and unfortunate revelations.

Among them:

snip

I didn't vote for Obama but I have to say that I'm fairly impressed
with him
so far. Yea, he has some issues with appointees but think...he has to
choose among Democrats! This means the pickings are pretty slim to get
anyone un-tainted. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he is
able
to separate the campaign rhetoric from the real world. Notice how
quickly
he has abandoned the fringe left? And, boy are they ****ed! My biggest
concerns are how he's going to handle outrageous spending and global
warming(kumbaya).

I too am impressed ... so far.

As for the outrageous spending by Bush...look for serious cuts by
Obama.

***********************************************
You mean, Bush didn't veto Congress's spending? *And, the last two years
was a DEMOCRATIC Congress. *Nice try though, your BDS is showing!
*************************************************

As for the train wreck Bush economy, well the train wreck is still
crashing. Look for some serious government spending to hopefully
cushion the landing...otherwise many of us here will be living under a
bridge. It has all the indications that it could get that bad...Obama
has to get this one right the first time.

*************************************************
Again, DEMOCRATIC Congress's train wreck!

***********************************************
As for global warming...well boys and girls we need to face the
facts..global warming is real and those CO2 emissions need to be cut.
One irony is that the global recession ..thanks to George Bush..is
forcing reducing CO2 emissions. The downside is that we are eight
years too late..thanks George.

***********************************************
BULL****!!! *No such thing as "CO2 caused GW. *You are a Kool-Aid
guzzler if you believe the junk science perpetrated on the stupid
masses!
**********************************************

And if you don't believe too much CO2 is not good for you...hold your
breath and watch what happens.

TMT
***********************************************
That was about the stupidest thing you have ever said!

Tom, I can't tell from that exchange and the way you replied which parts
are from TMT and which are from you; I have him blocked so I didn't see
his original.

The alarming thing is that they both look the same. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

Well, WTF? *Why didn't GWB get impeached since he was evil incarnate and
caused crabgrass in my front yard?

Causing crabgrass to grow is not an impeachable offense.

*Ed, are you a big fan of AGW? *If so, your brain leaked out.

Who the hell or what the hell is AGW?

I may not be well educated, or intelligent, or wise but don't dare put me
in the same sentence with Too_many_Trolls!

Oh, I think you're intelligent, and you seem well educated. And you can be a
wiseguy at times...

However, I wasn't saying anything about you and TMT except to remark that,
without the normal attributions, I couldn't tell who was being sarcastic and
who was not, nor which of you was which, because you both were talking in
the same misanthropic and juvenile tone of voice.

It was just an observation about a curious thing that struck me funny. d8-)

--
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Ed is an okay guy.

And yes he is right that I do tend to be a bit sarcastic. ;)

TMT

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On Jan 20, 4:10 pm, "Buerste" wrote:
"Steve W." wrote in message

...

Monday, January 19, 2009 4:46 PM

By: Jim Meyers

Barack Obama has yet to be sworn in as president, but he's already
been
bedeviled by a series of miscues and unfortunate revelations.

Among them:

snip

I didn't vote for Obama but I have to say that I'm fairly impressed
with him
so far. Yea, he has some issues with appointees but think...he has to
choose among Democrats! This means the pickings are pretty slim to get
anyone un-tainted. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he is
able
to separate the campaign rhetoric from the real world. Notice how
quickly
he has abandoned the fringe left? And, boy are they ****ed! My biggest
concerns are how he's going to handle outrageous spending and global
warming(kumbaya).

I too am impressed ... so far.

As for the outrageous spending by Bush...look for serious cuts by
Obama.

***********************************************
You mean, Bush didn't veto Congress's spending? And, the last two
years was a DEMOCRATIC Congress. Nice try though, your BDS is showing!
*************************************************

As for the train wreck Bush economy, well the train wreck is still
crashing. Look for some serious government spending to hopefully
cushion the landing...otherwise many of us here will be living under a
bridge. It has all the indications that it could get that bad...Obama
has to get this one right the first time.

*************************************************
Again, DEMOCRATIC Congress's train wreck!

***********************************************
As for global warming...well boys and girls we need to face the
facts..global warming is real and those CO2 emissions need to be cut.
One irony is that the global recession ..thanks to George Bush..is
forcing reducing CO2 emissions. The downside is that we are eight
years too late..thanks George.

***********************************************
BULL****!!! No such thing as "CO2 caused GW. You are a Kool-Aid
guzzler if you believe the junk science perpetrated on the stupid
masses!
**********************************************

And if you don't believe too much CO2 is not good for you...hold your
breath and watch what happens.

TMT
***********************************************
That was about the stupidest thing you have ever said!

Tom, I can't tell from that exchange and the way you replied which parts
are from TMT and which are from you; I have him blocked so I didn't see
his original.

The alarming thing is that they both look the same. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress


Well, WTF? Why didn't GWB get impeached since he was evil incarnate and
caused crabgrass in my front yard?

Causing crabgrass to grow is not an impeachable offense.

Ed, are you a big fan of AGW? If so, your brain leaked out.

Who the hell or what the hell is AGW?

I may not be well educated, or intelligent, or wise but don't dare put me
in the same sentence with Too_many_Trolls!

Oh, I think you're intelligent, and you seem well educated. And you can be
a wiseguy at times...

However, I wasn't saying anything about you and TMT except to remark that,
without the normal attributions, I couldn't tell who was being sarcastic
and who was not, nor which of you was which, because you both were talking
in the same misanthropic and juvenile tone of voice.

It was just an observation about a curious thing that struck me funny.
d8-)

--
Ed Huntress



Does your wife have any new authors that she likes? I'm always nervous if I
don't have at least the next two or three books lined up. Ask her if she
reads Janet Evanovich? Laugh-out-loud, wet-your-pants funny! One of the
few authors I will pay full hard-back price for the latest.

DEFINITELY a good read. My wife got me started - - - .

On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:19:27 -0800 (PST), Too_Many_Tools
wrote:


Me blocked?

Damn...I'll wear that as a badge of honor Ed.

Remember we have a date to get back together a year from now and see
who was right about where the economy is headed.

TMT
The american economy is headed down the sewer regardless WHO is in
power. The only question is how much will be left when the swirling
stops and what it will be.
Better chance there will be something USEFULL left with the current
administration than with the last, and most likely the swirling will
stop sooner as well. No way to prove it, even in hindsite, because NO
ONE knows for sure how BAD it would have gotten under the old
administration, or how long it would have continued.

On Jan 21, 6:11*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:19:27 -0800 (PST), Too_Many_Tools

wrote:
Me blocked?

Damn...I'll wear that as a badge of honor Ed.

Remember we have a date to get back together a year from now and see
who was right about where the economy is headed.

TMT

*The american economy is headed down the sewer regardless WHO is in
power. The only question is how much will be left when the swirling
stops and what it will be.
Better chance there will be something USEFULL left with the current
administration than with the last, and most likely the swirling will
stop sooner as well. No way to prove it, even in hindsite, because NO
ONE knows for sure how BAD it would have gotten under the old
administration, or how long it would have continued.

Well according to Ed it isn't so bad.

I disagree.

Since we agreed to disagree and meet back on this subject in a year, I
think we need to let history take its course.

Now of course I am scouting out bridges in case it get worse than what
I think it will get.

TMT

On Jan 20, 5:19*pm, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On Jan 20, 4:10*pm, "Buerste" wrote:





"Steve W." wrote in message

...

Monday, January 19, 2009 4:46 PM

By: Jim Meyers

Barack Obama has yet to be sworn in as president, but he’s already been
bedeviled by a series of miscues and unfortunate revelations.

Among them:

snip

I didn't vote for Obama but I have to say that I'm fairly impressed with him
so far. *Yea, he has some issues with appointees but think...he has to
choose among Democrats! *This means the pickings are pretty slim to get
anyone un-tainted. *I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he is able
to separate the campaign rhetoric from the real world. *Notice how quickly
he has abandoned the fringe left? *And, boy are they ****ed! *My biggest
concerns are how he's going to handle outrageous spending and global
warming(kumbaya).

I too am impressed ... so far.

As for the outrageous spending by Bush...look for serious cuts by
Obama.

As for the train wreck Bush economy, well the train wreck is still
crashing. Look for some serious government spending to hopefully
cushion the landing...otherwise many of us here will be living under a
bridge. It has all the indications that it could get that bad...Obama
has to get this one right the first time.

As for global warming...well boys and girls we need to face the
facts..global warming is real and those CO2 emissions need to be cut.
One irony is that the global recession ..thanks to George Bush..is
forcing reducing CO2 emissions. The downside is that we are eight
years too late..thanks George.

And if you don't believe too much CO2 is not good for you...hold your
breath and watch what happens.

TMT- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oh look...we all get to start looking for evidence against Bush and
Cheney.

Undoing Bush: Obama orders easier access to records
Margaret Talev | McClatchy Newspapers
last updated: January 21, 2009 06:39:11 PM

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama, in his first full day in office,
revoked a controversial executive order signed by President Bush in
2001 that limited release of former presidents' records.

The new order could expand public access to records of President Bush
and Vice President Dick Cheney in the years to come as well as other
past leaders, said Steven Aftergood, director of the Project on
Government Secrecy at the Federation of American Scientists.

"It's extraordinary that a new president would address this issue on
his first full day in office," Aftergood said. "It signifies the great
importance he attaches to open, accountable government. The new order
suggests President Obama will take a narrow view of executive
privilege and assert it in a much more limited way than what we've
seen in the recent past."

Under Bush's order, former presidents had broad ability to claim
executive privilege and could designate others including family
members who survive them to exercise executive privilege on their
behalf.

Obama's new order gives ex-presidents less leeway to withhold records,
Aftergood said, and takes away the ability of presidents' survivors to
designate that privilege.

Separately, an Obama memorandum issued Wednesday also appears to
effectively rescind a 2001 memo by President Bush's then-Attorney Gen.
John Ashcroft giving agencies broad legal cover to reject public
disclosure requests.

"For a long time now, there's been too much secrecy in this city. This
administration stands on the side not of those who seek to withhold
information but with those who seek it to be known," Obama said before
a gathering that included his senior staff. "The mere fact that you
have the legal power to keep something secret does not mean you should
always use it. Transparency and the rule of law will be the
touchstones of this presidency."

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On Jan 20, 4:10 pm, "Buerste" wrote:
"Steve W." wrote in message

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Monday, January 19, 2009 4:46 PM

By: Jim Meyers

Barack Obama has yet to be sworn in as president, but he's already
been
bedeviled by a series of miscues and unfortunate revelations.

Among them:

snip

I didn't vote for Obama but I have to say that I'm fairly impressed
with him
so far. Yea, he has some issues with appointees but think...he has to
choose among Democrats! This means the pickings are pretty slim to
get
anyone un-tainted. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he is
able
to separate the campaign rhetoric from the real world. Notice how
quickly
he has abandoned the fringe left? And, boy are they ****ed! My
biggest
concerns are how he's going to handle outrageous spending and global
warming(kumbaya).

I too am impressed ... so far.

As for the outrageous spending by Bush...look for serious cuts by
Obama.

***********************************************
You mean, Bush didn't veto Congress's spending? And, the last two
years was a DEMOCRATIC Congress. Nice try though, your BDS is
showing!
*************************************************

As for the train wreck Bush economy, well the train wreck is still
crashing. Look for some serious government spending to hopefully
cushion the landing...otherwise many of us here will be living under a
bridge. It has all the indications that it could get that bad...Obama
has to get this one right the first time.

*************************************************
Again, DEMOCRATIC Congress's train wreck!

***********************************************
As for global warming...well boys and girls we need to face the
facts..global warming is real and those CO2 emissions need to be cut.
One irony is that the global recession ..thanks to George Bush..is
forcing reducing CO2 emissions. The downside is that we are eight
years too late..thanks George.

***********************************************
BULL****!!! No such thing as "CO2 caused GW. You are a Kool-Aid
guzzler if you believe the junk science perpetrated on the stupid
masses!
**********************************************

And if you don't believe too much CO2 is not good for you...hold your
breath and watch what happens.

TMT
***********************************************
That was about the stupidest thing you have ever said!

Tom, I can't tell from that exchange and the way you replied which
parts are from TMT and which are from you; I have him blocked so I
didn't see his original.

The alarming thing is that they both look the same. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress


Well, WTF? Why didn't GWB get impeached since he was evil incarnate and
caused crabgrass in my front yard?

Causing crabgrass to grow is not an impeachable offense.

Ed, are you a big fan of AGW? If so, your brain leaked out.

Who the hell or what the hell is AGW?

I may not be well educated, or intelligent, or wise but don't dare put
me in the same sentence with Too_many_Trolls!

Oh, I think you're intelligent, and you seem well educated. And you can
be a wiseguy at times...

However, I wasn't saying anything about you and TMT except to remark
that, without the normal attributions, I couldn't tell who was being
sarcastic and who was not, nor which of you was which, because you both
were talking in the same misanthropic and juvenile tone of voice.

It was just an observation about a curious thing that struck me funny.
d8-)

--
Ed Huntress



Does your wife have any new authors that she likes?

I just asked and she says, "when do you think I have time to read for fun?"
g She's teaching full time and taking courses at a nearby university, and
she hardly has time to turn around. So, no, she can't even get to the old
ones.

I'm always nervous if I don't have at least the next two or three books
lined up. Ask her if she reads Janet Evanovich? Laugh-out-loud,
wet-your-pants funny! One of the few authors I will pay full hard-back
price for the latest.

I asked again -- yes, she's read Evanovich and liked whatever she read.
You'd have to be here to appreciate how far all of this is from her
attention right now. Almost any question like that gets a look that says,
"are you crazy?" I think the phrase for her now is short-tempered. I really
don't know how she's doing it. She's tough.

It will be another year before she's back into a reading mode.

--
Ed Huntress

Buerste wrote:
"Steve W." wrote in message
...

Monday, January 19, 2009 4:46 PM

By: Jim Meyers

Barack Obama has yet to be sworn in as president, but he’s already been
bedeviled by a series of miscues and unfortunate revelations.

Among them:
snip

I didn't vote for Obama but I have to say that I'm fairly impressed with him
so far. Yea, he has some issues with appointees but think...he has to
choose among Democrats!

Says who? No reason he can't have an Republican or Libertarian or
Marxist in his cabinet. But more than likely he will have a solid cadre
of yes-men.