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So WHAT is Obama hiding?
Wednesday, October 29, 2008
WorldNetDaily Exclusive Obama's birth certificate sealed by Hawaii governor Says Democratic senator must make request to obtain original document Posted: October 26, 2008 9:54 pm Eastern By Jerome R. Corsi WorldNetDaily HONOLULU, Hawaii Although the legitimacy of Sen. Barack Obama's birth certificate has become a focus of intense speculation and even several lawsuits WND has learned that Hawaii's Gov. Linda Lingle has placed the candidate's birth certificate under seal and instructed the state's Department of Health to make sure no one in the press obtains access to the original document under any circumstances. The governor's office officially declined a request made in writing by WND in Hawaii to obtain a copy of the hospital-generated original birth certificate of Barack Obama. "It does not appear that Dr. Corsi is within any of these categories of persons with a direct and tangible interest in the birth certificate he seeks," wrote Roz Makuala, manager of constituent services in the governor's office, in an e-mailed response to a WND request seeking the information. Those listed as entitled to obtain a copy of an original birth certificate include the person born, or "registrant" according to the legal description from the governor's office, the spouse or parent of the registrant, a descendant of the registrant, a person having a common ancestor with the registrant, a legal guardian of the registrant, or a person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant. (Story continues below) WND was told the official reason for denial of access to Obama's birth certificate would be authority granted pursuant to Section 338-18 of the Hawaii Revised Statutes, a provision the anonymous source claimed was designed to prevent identity theft. Still, the source told WND confidentially the motivation for withholding the original birth certificate was political, although the source refused to disclose whether there was any information on the original birth certificate that would prove politically embarrassing to Obama. Get the book that started it all, Jerome Corsi's "The Obama Nation," autographed by the author, exclusively from WND's online store for the amazing low price of just $4.95. The source also refused to answer WND's question whether the original document on file with the Department of Health was a hospital- generated birth certificate or a registration of birth that may have been filed subsequent to the birth. The anonymous source made clear the Hawaii Department of Health would immediately release Obama's original birth certificate, provided Obama requested the document be released, but the Department of Heath has received no such request from the senator or from anyone acting officially on his behalf. WND also found on microfilm in the Honolulu downtown public library a notice published under the "Births, Marriages, Deaths" section of the Honolulu Sunday Advertiser for August 13, 1961, on page B-6, noting: "Mr. and Mrs. Barack II Obama. 6085 Kalanianaole-Hwy, son, Aug. 4." In searching through the birth notices of the Honolulu Advertiser for 1961, WND found many birth notices were published between one and two weeks after the date of birth listed. The notice in the Honolulu Advertiser does not list the hospital where the Obama son was born or the doctor who delivered the baby. In a startling development, Obama's Kenyan grandmother has reportedly alleged she witnessed Obama's birth at the Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya. Friday, U.S. Federal judge Richard Barclay Surrick, a Clinton appointee, dismissed a lawsuit brought by Pennsylvania attorney Phillip J. Berg who alleged Obama was not a U.S. "natural born" citizen and therefore ineligible for the presidency under the specifications of the U.S. Constitution, under Article II, Section 1. Berg told WND last week he does not have a copy of a Kenyan birth certificate for Obama that he alleges exists. In Kenya, WND was told by government authorities that all documents concerning Obama were under seal until after the U.S. presidential election on November 4. The Obama campaign website entitled ";Fight the Smears" posts a state of Hawaii "Certificate of Live Birth" which is obviously not the original birth certificate generated by the hospital where Obama reportedly was born. "Fight the Smears" declares, "The truth is, Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a native citizen of the United States of America." Although the Obama campaign could immediately put an end to all the challenges by simply producing the candidate's original birth certificate, it has not done so. And the "Fight the Smears" website offers no explanation as to why Obama has refused to request, and make public, an original hospital-generated birth certificate which the Hawaii Department of Health may possess. |
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The losing wackos are really getting desperate.
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Bob F wrote:
The losing wackos are really getting desperate. Amen. -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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On Oct 29, 11:46*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:31:07 -0700 (PDT), BobR wrote: Hawaii Department of Health may possess. Hey asshole...... Tell me where you see the word "politics" in "alt.home.repair" You dont, do you? Now take your ****ing political spam to an appropriate newsgroup. PLONK I see it written right on your stupid ****ing forehead. Nobody forced you to open and read the post and only a real dumbass would do so and then bitch about it. So go plonk your ass. |
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On Oct 29, 10:09*pm, "Bob F" wrote:
The losing wackos are really getting desperate. So what are all you dumbcraps afraid of? All Odamarx would have to do is produce a certified copy of his birth certificate but he refuses. |
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"BobR" wrote in message ... Wednesday, October 29, 2008 WorldNetDaily Exclusive Obama's birth certificate sealed by Hawaii governor Says Democratic senator must make request to obtain original document Posted: October 26, 2008 9:54 pm Eastern By Jerome R. Corsi WorldNetDaily snip Get the book that started it all, Jerome Corsi's "The Obama Nation," autographed by the author, exclusively from WND's online store for the amazing low price of just $4.95. Sounds like someone is plugging a book. You getting paid per copy sold? Obamas birth certificate has been proven a true and original document by the highest sources but the losing Repubs won't stop at anything to create doubt and fear. A bunch of LOSERS |
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Any mention of his father judging from his TV ads.
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BobR wrote:
Wednesday, October 29, 2008 WorldNetDaily Exclusive Obama's birth certificate sealed by Hawaii governor Says Democratic senator must make request to obtain original document Posted: October 26, 2008 9:54 pm Eastern By Jerome R. Corsi Perhaps he lied about his age or he's actually an alien from outer space. I sort of believe the later. TDD |
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On Oct 29, 11:46 pm, wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:31:07 -0700 (PDT), BobR wrote: Hawaii Department of Health may possess. Hey asshole...... Tell me where you see the word "politics" in "alt.home.repair" You dont, do you? Now take your ****ing political spam to an appropriate newsgroup. PLONK I see it written right on your stupid ****ing forehead. Nobody forced you to open and read the post and only a real dumbass would do so and then bitch about it. So go plonk your ass. Animal abuse is illegal. Why would anyone abuse a small equine? TDD |
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wrote: The losing wackos are really getting desperate. Since the guy who started the court case trying to get Mr. Obama removed from the ballot because of the alleged problems with the birth certificate is "a life long Democrat who has always been proud of his party", one can only hope you are right about the losing wackos. (Hit the Philip Berg link off of the Snopes page and get down to the third pleading). |
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:31:07 -0700 (PDT), BobR
wrote: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 WorldNetDaily Exclusive Obama's birth certificate sealed by Hawaii governor Says Democratic senator must make request to obtain original document -snip- "It does not appear that Dr. Corsi is within any of these categories of persons with a direct and tangible interest in the birth certificate he seeks," wrote Roz Makuala, manager of constituent services in the governor's office, in an e-mailed response to a WND request seeking the information. Good for them. If Corsi could read he could have accessed any number of real journalists who already viewed the certificate. Factcheck.org is an equal opportunity skewer for one- http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html While you're there, read their review of Corsi's book http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...l_hatchet.html [and I challenge you to find any reputable source that disagrees with it "Jerome Corsi's "The Obama Nation" is a mishmash of unsupported conjecture, half-truths, logical fallacies and outright falsehoods." -- and the article on John Mccain's citizenship. [a concern real enough that the senate passed a non-binding resolution saying that although McCain wasn't born in the US, it didn't matter] http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...president.html Sorry for the political post- but Corsi just makes me wanna puke. Jim |
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On Oct 30, 7:57*am, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:31:07 -0700 (PDT), BobR wrote: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 WorldNetDaily Exclusive Obama's birth certificate sealed by Hawaii governor Says Democratic senator must make request to obtain original document -snip- "It does not appear that Dr. Corsi is within any of these categories of persons with a direct and tangible interest in the birth certificate he seeks," wrote Roz Makuala, manager of constituent services in the governor's office, in an e-mailed response to a WND request seeking the information. Good for them. * If Corsi could read he could have accessed any number of *real journalists who already viewed the certificate. Factcheck.org is an equal opportunity skewer for one-http://www.factcheck..org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html While you're there, read their review of Corsi's bookhttp://www.factcheck..org/elections-2008/corsis_dull_hatchet.html [and I challenge you to find any reputable source that disagrees with it "Jerome Corsi's "The Obama Nation" is a mishmash of unsupported conjecture, half-truths, logical fallacies and outright falsehoods." -- * and the article on John Mccain's citizenship. [a concern real enough that the senate passed a non-binding resolution saying that although McCain wasn't born in the US, it didn't matter]http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/how_can_panamanian-born_mccain_... Sorry for the political post- but Corsi just makes me wanna puke. Jim Apparently you are talking about two different things. The OP alleged that it's the ORIGINAL hospital birth certificate that's in question, not the HI state copy stamped June 2007 and reproduced at the request of Obama for the campaign that Factcheck is talking about. One can only wonder what the big secret really is. If he was in fact born in a hospital in HI, then why not just issue a release to HI state officials for ANY and ALL records related to his birth certificate? And if it's true that the HI governor did issue a special order directing that such info not be released, I for one agree that it raises much suspicion. What's the big deal with being open about your birth certificate? |
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Jim Elbrecht wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:31:07 -0700 (PDT), BobR wrote: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 WorldNetDaily Exclusive Obama's birth certificate sealed by Hawaii governor Says Democratic senator must make request to obtain original document -snip- "It does not appear that Dr. Corsi is within any of these categories of persons with a direct and tangible interest in the birth certificate he seeks," wrote Roz Makuala, manager of constituent services in the governor's office, in an e-mailed response to a WND request seeking the information. Good for them. If Corsi could read he could have accessed any number of real journalists who already viewed the certificate. This is really the height of idiocy on both sides. US Code says "[a]ny child hereafter born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such child is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States." Act of May 24, 1934, Pub. L. No. 73-250, 48 Stat. 797. Father **OR** mother, in the case of Senator Obama, *AND* in the case of McCain. |
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What is he not hiding, from medical records to college thesis,
everything is under wraps. Old timers would call this buying a pig in a poke. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_in_a_poke |
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sanity wrote:
"BobR" wrote in message ... Wednesday, October 29, 2008 WorldNetDaily Exclusive Obama's birth certificate sealed by Hawaii governor Says Democratic senator must make request to obtain original document Posted: October 26, 2008 9:54 pm Eastern By Jerome R. Corsi WorldNetDaily snip Get the book that started it all, Jerome Corsi's "The Obama Nation," autographed by the author, exclusively from WND's online store for the amazing low price of just $4.95. Sounds like someone is plugging a book. You getting paid per copy sold? Obamas birth certificate has been proven a true and original document by the highest sources but the losing Repubs won't stop at anything to create doubt and fear. A bunch of LOSERS highest sources? hahaha, time for more obammy coolaide, insanity. |
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On Oct 30, 12:01*am, "sanity" wrote:
"BobR" wrote in message ... Wednesday, October 29, 2008 WorldNetDaily Exclusive Obama's birth certificate sealed by Hawaii governor Says Democratic senator must make request to obtain original document Posted: October 26, 2008 9:54 pm Eastern By Jerome R. Corsi WorldNetDaily snip Get the book that started it all, Jerome Corsi's "The Obama Nation," autographed by the author, exclusively from WND's online store for the amazing low price of just $4.95. * * *Sounds like someone is plugging a book. You getting paid per copy sold? Obamas birth certificate has been proven a true and original document by the highest sources but the losing Repubs won't stop at anything to create doubt and fear. A bunch of LOSERS Name those sources! |
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"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message ... This is really the height of idiocy on both sides. US Code says "[a]ny child hereafter born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such child is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States." Act of May 24, 1934, Pub. L. No. 73-250, 48 Stat. 797. Father **OR** mother, in the case of Senator Obama, *AND* in the case of McCain. Don't be posting law or facts, some people get confused. They would rather make an issue, out of a non-issue!! You're spoiling their fun! |
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On Oct 30, 8:58*am, wrote:
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:27:50 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Oct 30, 7:57*am, Jim Elbrecht wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:31:07 -0700 (PDT), BobR wrote: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 WorldNetDaily Exclusive Obama's birth certificate sealed by Hawaii governor Says Democratic senator must make request to obtain original document -snip- "It does not appear that Dr. Corsi is within any of these categories of persons with a direct and tangible interest in the birth certificate he seeks," wrote Roz Makuala, manager of constituent services in the governor's office, in an e-mailed response to a WND request seeking the information. Good for them. * If Corsi could read he could have accessed any number of *real journalists who already viewed the certificate. Factcheck.org is an equal opportunity skewer for one-http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html While you're there, read their review of Corsi's bookhttp://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/corsis_dull_hatchet.html [and I challenge you to find any reputable source that disagrees with it "Jerome Corsi's "The Obama Nation" is a mishmash of unsupported conjecture, half-truths, logical fallacies and outright falsehoods." -- * and the article on John Mccain's citizenship. [a concern real enough that the senate passed a non-binding resolution saying that although McCain wasn't born in the US, it didn't matter]http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/how_can_panamanian-born_mccain_... Sorry for the political post- but Corsi just makes me wanna puke. Jim Apparently you are talking about two different things. * The OP alleged that it's the ORIGINAL hospital birth certificate that's in question, not the HI state copy stamped June 2007 and reproduced at the request of Obama for the campaign that Factcheck is talking about. One can only wonder what the big secret really is. * If he was in fact born in a hospital in HI, then why not just issue a release to HI state officials for ANY and ALL records related to his birth certificate? * And if it's true that the HI governor did issue a special order directing that such info not be released, I for one agree that it raises much suspicion. *What's the big deal with being open about your birth certificate? Yeah. Could you please post your social security number and complete health records here while you're at it? Thanks.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I will when I start running for President but until then they are none of your damn business. If you can't understand the difference, it would be a big waste of time to try and explain it to you. |
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sanity wrote:
"BobR" wrote in message ... Wednesday, October 29, 2008 WorldNetDaily Exclusive Obama's birth certificate sealed by Hawaii governor Says Democratic senator must make request to obtain original document Uh, no. No independent expert has had access to the original document. Two different scanned replications have appeared on the web. Personally, I think Obama is probably a U.S. Citizen. If there was something squirrely about his birth certificate, someone from the Hawaii vital statistics office would have leaked the incriminating evidence by now. You just can keep secrets in government service. |
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On Oct 30, 12:24*am, BobR wrote:
On Oct 29, 10:09*pm, "Bob F" wrote: The losing wackos are really getting desperate. So what are all you dumbcraps afraid of? *All Odamarx would have to do is produce a certified copy of his birth certificate but he refuses. (1) The difference between the liberals and conservatives is that the majority of conservatives - from the biased pundits of conservative radio and the Fox Propaganda Channel to Joe the Plumber - can produce only insults and demeaning comments rather than constructive criticism of a liberal's positions. I cite as example #1 this poster who cannot call a respected US Senator by his name but must use an insulting portmanteau, and calls anyone who disagrees with him a "dumbcrap". (2) This argument is classic idiocy. The idea is that truth is whatever is shouted loudest and longest; it doesn't matter how many times the actual truth is stated. In this case, the fringe keeps shouting about how Senator Obama "refuses" to produce a certified birth certificate and if they say it then it must be true, regardless of the truth that Senator Obama HAS produced a state-issued certificate from the state of Hawaii. (3) Those who make these sorts of arguments, those who continually insist on using Senator Obama's middle name as though it's an indicator of his allegiance - again, I refer you to the Fox Propaganda Channel, where they insist on referring to Senator Obama as "BHO" in their on-screen graphics [http://www.newshounds.us/2008/05/21/ fox_news_refers_to_obama_as_bho.php] or refer to Michelle Obama as the Senator's "baby mama" [http://farm4.static.flickr.com/ 3097/2572325659_8131d453b3.jpg?v=0] - those who continue to forward emails that are blatant lies making outrageous claims of Obama's faith or heritage...they are racists. If this were Barry O'Bama from County Cork, Ireland, not a single one of the fringe Right would be beating this as hard as they are with a man whose name isn't "American"-sounding enough. How many people know Senator McCain's middle name, and why don't they use it? I'll tell you why: the people who have a problem with Barack Obama are one bedsheet short of a KKK rally. They are no better than the fearmongering, hate-filled Islamic fundamentalists they so often claim are the greatest threat to this nation. I cite as exhibit #3 the recent letter sent to 75,000 registered voters in the state of Pennsylvania who are Jewish, where the Republican State committee warned that an Obama presidency would bring a "second Holocaust". (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/ 2008/10/adl-condemns-ug.html) It is sad that the Grand Old Party has sunk to these sorts of moral and ethical depths. It is even sadder how many otherwise good Americans have not only accepted this as a way of life, but endorse it, encourage it, and participate in it. To quote one of Senator Obama's and Senator McCain's favorite writers, "Fight the _good_ fight..." (that's the apostle Paul, by the way) |
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:09:37 -0700, Bob F wrote:
The losing wackos are really getting desperate. Why won't Obama produce a birth certificate and other information to prove he is eligible to hold ANY federal office, per the Constitution? If he has nothing to hide he would be forthcoming with this information. But he is a democrat and democrats are exempt from the law. |
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George wrote: bucks to our states bureau of vital statistics and get it. Back then the government didn't issue SSNs at birth so that is not even a concern. They still don't. The parent has to apply to get an SSN, it isn't issued at birth. If one does not want to take the kid as a dependent on income taxes, there is no need to get the SSN before the kid goes to work. I know, I'm being nitpicky, but there you are (grin). |
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Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article , George wrote: bucks to our states bureau of vital statistics and get it. Back then the government didn't issue SSNs at birth so that is not even a concern. They still don't. The parent has to apply to get an SSN, it isn't issued at birth. If one does not want to take the kid as a dependent on income taxes, there is no need to get the SSN before the kid goes to work. I know, I'm being nitpicky, but there you are (grin). Don't know whose requirement it is but my SIL works at the local hospital in whatever trendy name they call the birthing department and she was upset a couple years ago when they were required by the "government" to get SSNs for newborns. The parent doesn't have a choice in the matter. |
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George wrote: I know, I'm being nitpicky, but there you are (grin). Don't know whose requirement it is but my SIL works at the local hospital in whatever trendy name they call the birthing department and she was upset a couple years ago when they were required by the "government" to get SSNs for newborns. The parent doesn't have a choice in the matter. Sounds like attorneys getting involved and mucking things up. The Social Security Administration says it is voluntary unless they want to take the kid as dependent, open financial accounts, or apply for government aid. Must my child have a Social Security number? No. Getting a Social Security number for your newborn is voluntary. But, it is a good idea to get a number when your child is born. You can apply for a Social Security number for your baby when you apply for your babyıs birth certificate. The state agency that issues birth certificates will share your childıs information with us and we will mail the Social Security card to you. If you wait to apply at a Social Security office, you must show us proof of your childıs U.S. citizenship, age and identity, as well as proof of your own identity. We must verify your childıs birth record, which can add up to 12 weeks to the time it takes to issue a card. To verify a birth certificate, Social Security will contact the office that issued it. We do this verification to prevent people from using fraudulent birth records to obtain Social Security numbers to establish false identities. http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10023.html |
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"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
... I'll bet he's an Obama supporter. If Obama gets in, look for legislation to outlaw OT subjects and cross posting. Execution by firing squad will be the most likely punishment. Top posters will be thrown from high buildings. Steve And people who don't snip for relevance will be tortured first instead of just being thrown from high buildings. :-) Cheri |
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On Oct 30, 9:42*am, Kyle wrote:
On Oct 30, 12:24*am, BobR wrote: On Oct 29, 10:09*pm, "Bob F" wrote: The losing wackos are really getting desperate. So what are all you dumbcraps afraid of? *All Odamarx would have to do is produce a certified copy of his birth certificate but he refuses. (1) The difference between the liberals and conservatives is that the majority of conservatives - from the biased pundits of conservative radio and the Fox Propaganda Channel to Joe the Plumber - can produce only insults and demeaning comments rather than constructive criticism of a liberal's positions. I cite as example #1 this poster who cannot call a respected US Senator by his name but must use an insulting portmanteau, and calls anyone who disagrees with him a "dumbcrap". (2) This argument is classic idiocy. The idea is that truth is whatever is shouted loudest and longest; it doesn't matter how many times the actual truth is stated. In this case, the fringe keeps shouting about how Senator Obama "refuses" to produce a certified birth certificate and if they say it then it must be true, regardless of the truth that Senator Obama HAS produced a state-issued certificate from the state of Hawaii. (3) Those who make these sorts of arguments, those who continually insist on using Senator Obama's middle name as though it's an indicator of his allegiance - again, I refer you to the Fox Propaganda Channel, where they insist on referring to Senator Obama as "BHO" in their on-screen graphics [http://www.newshounds.us/2008/05/21/ fox_news_refers_to_obama_as_bho.php] or refer to Michelle Obama as the Senator's "baby mama" [http://farm4.static.flickr.com/ 3097/2572325659_8131d453b3.jpg?v=0] - those who continue to forward emails that are blatant lies making outrageous claims of Obama's faith or heritage...they are racists. If this were Barry O'Bama from County Cork, Ireland, not a single one of the fringe Right would be beating this as hard as they are with a man whose name isn't "American"-sounding enough. How many people know Senator McCain's middle name, and why don't they use it? I'll tell you why: the people who have a problem with Barack Obama are one bedsheet short of a KKK rally. They are no better than the fearmongering, hate-filled Islamic fundamentalists they so often claim are the greatest threat to this nation. I cite as exhibit #3 the recent letter sent to 75,000 registered voters in the state of Pennsylvania who are Jewish, where the Republican State committee warned that an Obama presidency would bring a "second Holocaust". (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/ 2008/10/adl-condemns-ug.html) It is sad that the Grand Old Party has sunk to these sorts of moral and ethical depths. It is even sadder how many otherwise good Americans have not only accepted this as a way of life, but endorse it, encourage it, and participate in it. To quote one of Senator Obama's and Senator McCain's favorite writers, "Fight the _good_ fight..." (that's the apostle Paul, by the way) And you either ignore or pretend the exact same things are not being done by the liberal democrats in reference to McCain and Palin. Give me a break. LMAO |
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On Oct 30, 9:52*am, wrote:
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:25:16 -0700 (PDT), BobR wrote: On Oct 30, 8:58*am, wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:27:50 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Oct 30, 7:57*am, Jim Elbrecht wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:31:07 -0700 (PDT), BobR wrote: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 WorldNetDaily Exclusive Obama's birth certificate sealed by Hawaii governor Says Democratic senator must make request to obtain original document -snip- "It does not appear that Dr. Corsi is within any of these categories of persons with a direct and tangible interest in the birth certificate he seeks," wrote Roz Makuala, manager of constituent services in the governor's office, in an e-mailed response to a WND request seeking the information. Good for them. * If Corsi could read he could have accessed any number of *real journalists who already viewed the certificate. Factcheck.org is an equal opportunity skewer for one-http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html While you're there, read their review of Corsi's bookhttp://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/corsis_dull_hatchet.html [and I challenge you to find any reputable source that disagrees with it "Jerome Corsi's "The Obama Nation" is a mishmash of unsupported conjecture, half-truths, logical fallacies and outright falsehoods." -- * and the article on John Mccain's citizenship. [a concern real enough that the senate passed a non-binding resolution saying that although McCain wasn't born in the US, it didn't matter]http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/how_can_panamanian-born_mccain_... Sorry for the political post- but Corsi just makes me wanna puke. Jim Apparently you are talking about two different things. * The OP alleged that it's the ORIGINAL hospital birth certificate that's in question, not the HI state copy stamped June 2007 and reproduced at the request of Obama for the campaign that Factcheck is talking about.. One can only wonder what the big secret really is. * If he was in fact born in a hospital in HI, then why not just issue a release to HI state officials for ANY and ALL records related to his birth certificate? * And if it's true that the HI governor did issue a special order directing that such info not be released, I for one agree that it raises much suspicion. *What's the big deal with being open about your birth certificate? Yeah. Could you please post your social security number and complete health records here while you're at it? Thanks.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I will when I start running for President but until then they are none of your damn business. *If you can't understand the difference, it would be a big waste of time to try and explain it to you. In other words, you can't explain it.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - NO, no other words, you are too stupid to understand. |
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"CJT" wrote in message ... Bob F wrote: The losing wackos are really getting desperate. Amen. Those Democrats ARE getting pretty pitiful, aren't they? Steve |
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"BobR" wrote in message ... On Oct 29, 11:46 pm, wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:31:07 -0700 (PDT), BobR wrote: Hawaii Department of Health may possess. Hey asshole...... Tell me where you see the word "politics" in "alt.home.repair" You dont, do you? Now take your ****ing political spam to an appropriate newsgroup. PLONK I see it written right on your stupid ****ing forehead. Nobody forced you to open and read the post and only a real dumbass would do so and then bitch about it. So go plonk your ass. I'll bet he's an Obama supporter. If Obama gets in, look for legislation to outlaw OT subjects and cross posting. Execution by firing squad will be the most likely punishment. Top posters will be thrown from high buildings. Steve |
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"BobR" wrote in message ... On Oct 30, 12:01 am, "sanity" wrote: "BobR" wrote in message ... Wednesday, October 29, 2008 WorldNetDaily Exclusive Obama's birth certificate sealed by Hawaii governor Says Democratic senator must make request to obtain original document Posted: October 26, 2008 9:54 pm Eastern By Jerome R. Corsi WorldNetDaily snip Get the book that started it all, Jerome Corsi's "The Obama Nation," autographed by the author, exclusively from WND's online store for the amazing low price of just $4.95. Sounds like someone is plugging a book. You getting paid per copy sold? Obamas birth certificate has been proven a true and original document by the highest sources but the losing Repubs won't stop at anything to create doubt and fear. A bunch of LOSERS Name those sources! Purple lips himself? Steve |
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"Jim Yanik" wrote in message ... Kurt Ullman wrote in news:kurtullman- : In article , Jim Elbrecht wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:31:07 -0700 (PDT), BobR wrote: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 WorldNetDaily Exclusive Obama's birth certificate sealed by Hawaii governor Says Democratic senator must make request to obtain original document -snip- "It does not appear that Dr. Corsi is within any of these categories of persons with a direct and tangible interest in the birth certificate he seeks," wrote Roz Makuala, manager of constituent services in the governor's office, in an e-mailed response to a WND request seeking the information. Good for them. If Corsi could read he could have accessed any number of real journalists who already viewed the certificate. If others have "already viewed the certificate",then why SEAL it now? (and right after Obama's visit to Hawaii...to see his dying grandmother...minus his family.) This is really the height of idiocy on both sides. US Code says "[a]ny child hereafter born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such child is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States." Act of May 24, 1934, Pub. L. No. 73-250, 48 Stat. 797. Father **OR** mother, in the case of Senator Obama, *AND* in the case of McCain. there's some question of Obama's mother's citizenship,marrying an Indonesian while Obama was a minor child,making him an Indonesian citizen. Obama's Indonesian school records indicate he was an Indonesian citizen. Then there's Obama's Kenyan(paternal) grandma saying Obama was born in a Kenyan hospital. Obama's own website "Fight the Smears" admits Obama held "dual-citizenship" as a "Kenyan-American".] And you acually admit that you believe all this garbage. Why was his birth announced in the Honolulu Advertiser 8/13/61, page B6? The lies the right wingers believe constantly amaze me. |
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"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message ... "CJT" wrote in message ... Bob F wrote: The losing wackos are really getting desperate. Amen. Those Democrats ARE getting pretty pitiful, aren't they? LOL!. Pity the way they are going to whomp the Republicans. Hope you enjoy it. |
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"Kyle" wrote in message ... On Oct 30, 12:24 am, BobR wrote: On Oct 29, 10:09 pm, "Bob F" wrote: The losing wackos are really getting desperate. So what are all you dumbcraps afraid of? All Odamarx would have to do is produce a certified copy of his birth certificate but he refuses. (1) The difference between the liberals and conservatives is that the majority of conservatives - from the biased pundits of conservative radio and the Fox Propaganda Channel to Joe the Plumber - can produce only insults and demeaning comments rather than constructive criticism of a liberal's positions. I cite as example #1 this poster who cannot call a respected US Senator by his name but must use an insulting portmanteau, and calls anyone who disagrees with him a "dumbcrap". (2) This argument is classic idiocy. The idea is that truth is whatever is shouted loudest and longest; it doesn't matter how many times the actual truth is stated. In this case, the fringe keeps shouting about how Senator Obama "refuses" to produce a certified birth certificate and if they say it then it must be true, regardless of the truth that Senator Obama HAS produced a state-issued certificate from the state of Hawaii. (3) Those who make these sorts of arguments, those who continually insist on using Senator Obama's middle name as though it's an indicator of his allegiance - again, I refer you to the Fox Propaganda Channel, where they insist on referring to Senator Obama as "BHO" in their on-screen graphics [http://www.newshounds.us/2008/05/21/ fox_news_refers_to_obama_as_bho.php] or refer to Michelle Obama as the Senator's "baby mama" [http://farm4.static.flickr.com/ 3097/2572325659_8131d453b3.jpg?v=0] - those who continue to forward emails that are blatant lies making outrageous claims of Obama's faith or heritage...they are racists. If this were Barry O'Bama from County Cork, Ireland, not a single one of the fringe Right would be beating this as hard as they are with a man whose name isn't "American"-sounding enough. How many people know Senator McCain's middle name, and why don't they use it? I'll tell you why: the people who have a problem with Barack Obama are one bedsheet short of a KKK rally. They are no better than the fearmongering, hate-filled Islamic fundamentalists they so often claim are the greatest threat to this nation. I cite as exhibit #3 the recent letter sent to 75,000 registered voters in the state of Pennsylvania who are Jewish, where the Republican State committee warned that an Obama presidency would bring a "second Holocaust". (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/ 2008/10/adl-condemns-ug.html) It is sad that the Grand Old Party has sunk to these sorts of moral and ethical depths. It is even sadder how many otherwise good Americans have not only accepted this as a way of life, but endorse it, encourage it, and participate in it. To quote one of Senator Obama's and Senator McCain's favorite writers, "Fight the _good_ fight..." (that's the apostle Paul, by the way) ************************************************** *********88 Very well said. There was one moment, when he told the woman that Obama was NOT an Arab, that McCain displayed a moment of honor in his campaign. Otherwise, it has been despicable. Nothing but negative, from the man that made it very clear that he did not approve of negative advertising. He has sold out on everything he used to claim he believed. |
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"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message ... In article , "Bob F" wrote: The losing wackos are really getting desperate. Since the guy who started the court case trying to get Mr. Obama removed from the ballot because of the alleged problems with the birth certificate is "a life long Democrat who has always been proud of his party", one can only hope you are right about the losing wackos. (Hit the Philip Berg link off of the Snopes page and get down to the third pleading). you mean the "case dissmissed" part? |
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"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message ... "BobR" wrote in message ... On Oct 29, 11:46 pm, wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:31:07 -0700 (PDT), BobR wrote: Hawaii Department of Health may possess. Hey asshole...... Tell me where you see the word "politics" in "alt.home.repair" You dont, do you? Now take your ****ing political spam to an appropriate newsgroup. PLONK I see it written right on your stupid ****ing forehead. Nobody forced you to open and read the post and only a real dumbass would do so and then bitch about it. So go plonk your ass. I'll bet he's an Obama supporter. If Obama gets in, look for legislation to outlaw OT subjects and cross posting. Execution by firing squad will be the most likely punishment. Top posters will be thrown from high buildings. Right wing wackos always know exactly what will happen when Obama gets elected. And right wing wackos believe them. |
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