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On Jan 14, 11:54*pm, "Bill Noble" wrote:
"Steve W." wrote in message ... Ignoramus18994 wrote: Big damn deal. I guess that since all you liberals claim we are torturing folks we should actually start. Pull a few fingernails out, maybe some nice bamboo slivers under the nails, How about we use the same tortures they use in the Mid-east, cut a few fingers off using a dull knife, gouge out a few eyes, whip them with real whips soaked in gas, maybe stone a few to death or public castrations. How about some nice electric charges to sensitive areas, burning pokers in other spots. -- Steve W. If torture does not bother your morals, then perhaps the rather well known fact that it produces unreliable information might bother you. *Military intelligence officers who are experts in interrogation do not use physical torture - there are plenty of interviews with retired interrogators and they all make clear that torture may get you a confession but it will not get you the truth. so, you can decide it is abhorrent because it is morally wrong, or you could decide it is abhorrent because it doesn't work. or maybe you just like to hurt people, in which case it is you who are abhorrent And maybe Bill is right...very right. TMT |
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