I know this is a great metal working project and I've made couple of these things at work
to get me by.

When trying to put a shaft, as in hydraulic cylinder shaft, though a loaded oring lip
seal, having either a nice bit of same diameter rod inserted from the easy side holding
things open, or a hollow sleeve that will allow the externally threaded part to pass
through pushing the sleeve out is priceless.

Now it is fine and dandy to make your own and I did again today but it would sure be nice
to have a set of these things for repairing cylinders that is store bought. My employer
is buying.

So what do I google for? Does McMaster sell these things or do I just have to make my own
set?

Thanks,

Wes

I know this is a great metal working project and I've made couple of these things at work
to get me by.

When trying to put a shaft, as in hydraulic cylinder shaft, though a loaded oring lip
seal, having either a nice bit of same diameter rod inserted from the easy side holding
things open, or a hollow sleeve that will allow the externally threaded part to pass
through pushing the sleeve out is priceless.

Now it is fine and dandy to make your own and I did again today but it would sure be nice
to have a set of these things for repairing cylinders that is store bought. My employer
is buying.

So what do I google for? Does McMaster sell these things or do I just have to make my own
set?

Thanks,

Wes


I've found that a thin sheet of plastic (like a microfiche sheet)
wrapped around the rod shaft will let it slip right into the seal,
without tearing up the seal lip, then the sheet is removed. HTH.
Ken.

Ken Sterling wrote:
I know this is a great metal working project and I've made couple of
these things at work to get me by.

When trying to put a shaft, as in hydraulic cylinder shaft, though a
loaded oring lip seal, having either a nice bit of same diameter rod
inserted from the easy side holding things open, or a hollow sleeve
that will allow the externally threaded part to pass through pushing
the sleeve out is priceless.

Now it is fine and dandy to make your own and I did again today but
it would sure be nice to have a set of these things for repairing
cylinders that is store bought. My employer is buying.

So what do I google for? Does McMaster sell these things or do I
just have to make my own set?

Thanks,

Wes


I've found that a thin sheet of plastic (like a microfiche sheet)
wrapped around the rod shaft will let it slip right into the seal,
without tearing up the seal lip, then the sheet is removed. HTH.
Ken.

I think you missed the point , Ken . His boss has offered to buy tools to
help make his job easier . He wanted sources , not alternatives .
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I dunno Terry, perhaps you missed the point. Do you think the reason the
tools are not available is because the alternative Ken suggested does exist?
Steve

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message
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Ken Sterling wrote:
I know this is a great metal working project and I've made couple of
these things at work to get me by.

When trying to put a shaft, as in hydraulic cylinder shaft, though a
loaded oring lip seal, having either a nice bit of same diameter rod
inserted from the easy side holding things open, or a hollow sleeve
that will allow the externally threaded part to pass through pushing
the sleeve out is priceless.

Now it is fine and dandy to make your own and I did again today but
it would sure be nice to have a set of these things for repairing
cylinders that is store bought. My employer is buying.

So what do I google for? Does McMaster sell these things or do I
just have to make my own set?

Thanks,

Wes


I've found that a thin sheet of plastic (like a microfiche sheet)
wrapped around the rod shaft will let it slip right into the seal,
without tearing up the seal lip, then the sheet is removed. HTH.
Ken.

I think you missed the point , Ken . His boss has offered to buy tools to
help make his job easier . He wanted sources , not alternatives .
--
Snag
every answer
leads to another
question

Steve Lusardi wrote:
I dunno Terry, perhaps you missed the point. Do you think the reason
the tools are not available is because the alternative Ken suggested
does exist? Steve



Sure , Steve , it is possible . How do you know they're not available ?
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"Steve Lusardi" wrote:

I dunno Terry, perhaps you missed the point. Do you think the reason the
tools are not available is because the alternative Ken suggested does exist?
Steve

If you were putting together 500 cylinders a day on a line, what tools would you use?

I doubt it would be mylar. It could be that what I'm asking for just gets made as part of
tooling up a line. It would be cool if someone makes the sleeves using seamless tubing so
the cost for a set would be relatively cheap.

We put bearings and snap rings into pulleys and shafts, thousands a day. Set a tapered
cone over part receiving bearing and snap ring, lay a bearing and the snap ring in place,
locate under a hydraulic press, hit the palm buttons. Takes about 10 seconds start to
finish.

Oh when installing loaded orings on a piston, put one on, press in backwards (easy way),
then press back so that the empty groove protrudes from cylinder, install second seal,
that one will go in the easy way also. Arbor press is priceless when doing this.

Wes

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:01:28 -0500, Wes wrote:

I know this is a great metal working project and I've made couple of these things at work
to get me by.

When trying to put a shaft, as in hydraulic cylinder shaft, though a loaded oring lip
seal, having either a nice bit of same diameter rod inserted from the easy side holding
things open, or a hollow sleeve that will allow the externally threaded part to pass
through pushing the sleeve out is priceless.

Now it is fine and dandy to make your own and I did again today but it would sure be nice
to have a set of these things for repairing cylinders that is store bought. My employer
is buying.

So what do I google for? Does McMaster sell these things or do I just have to make my own
set?

Thanks,

Wes



Are we getting close?
http://tinyurl.com/6654qc
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Depending on dia., there are plastic closet rod wraps in the 1-2"
range. Perfect.
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:01:28 -0500, Wes wrote:

I know this is a great metal working project and I've made couple of these things at work
to get me by.

When trying to put a shaft, as in hydraulic cylinder shaft, though a loaded oring lip
seal, having either a nice bit of same diameter rod inserted from the easy side holding
things open, or a hollow sleeve that will allow the externally threaded part to pass
through pushing the sleeve out is priceless.

Now it is fine and dandy to make your own and I did again today but it would sure be nice
to have a set of these things for repairing cylinders that is store bought. My employer
is buying.

So what do I google for? Does McMaster sell these things or do I just have to make my own
set?

Thanks,

Wes


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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:25:07 -0500, Wes wrote:
"Steve Lusardi" wrote:
I dunno Terry, perhaps you missed the point. Do you think the reason the
tools are not available is because the alternative Ken suggested does
exist? Steve

If you were putting together 500 cylinders a day on a line, what tools
would you use?

I doubt it would be mylar. It could be that what I'm asking for just
gets made as part of tooling up a line. It would be cool if someone
makes the sleeves using seamless tubing so the cost for a set would be
relatively cheap.

We put bearings and snap rings into pulleys and shafts, thousands a day.
Set a tapered cone over part receiving bearing and snap ring, lay a
bearing and the snap ring in place, locate under a hydraulic press, hit
the palm buttons. Takes about 10 seconds start to finish.

Oh when installing loaded orings on a piston, put one on, press in
backwards (easy way), then press back so that the empty groove protrudes
from cylinder, install second seal, that one will go in the easy way
also. Arbor press is priceless when doing this.

http://www.marinepartsexpress.com/tools.html has a plethora of special
tools for Volvo Penta engines and drives, including sleeves and drifts
(eg, "Drift for installing sealing rings in propeller bearing"). For
this case at least, there's a lot of single-purpose / fixed-size
tooling.

Possibly you could start with a ring compressor, grind off the outside
bolt attachment points, and braze an inside block at each end. Then
make up pairs of disks, of sizes as desired, to fit inside and set the
overall diameter. These would be tightened against the bolsters with
a central bolt.

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JR North wrote:

Depending on dia., there are plastic closet rod wraps in the 1-2"
range. Perfect.

Most cylinder caps do not have a lot of clearance between rod and the hole.

Wes

Gene wrote:

Are we getting close?
http://tinyurl.com/6654qc

You had me excited but I don't think this is it either. I scanned the site looking for
what I'm looking for while there.

Thanks for trying,

Wes