I won an auction on Ebay and paid with paypal. The seller shipped the
wrong item. We made several attempts to contact seller, he finally
responded and said ship it back to him. I said please send a call tag
for the item. I lodged a complaint with Paypal. I finally heard back
from paypal, they say the seller provided proof that he shipped the
item. I am bald already and I am ready to pull my hair out. What can
I do now with paypal or ebay. My wife says we cannot file a new
complaint about this item.

Scott in Texas

wrote in message
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I won an auction on Ebay and paid with paypal. The seller shipped the
wrong item. We made several attempts to contact seller, he finally
responded and said ship it back to him. I said please send a call tag
for the item. I lodged a complaint with Paypal. I finally heard back
from paypal, they say the seller provided proof that he shipped the
item. I am bald already and I am ready to pull my hair out. What can
I do now with paypal or ebay. My wife says we cannot file a new
complaint about this item.

Scott in Texas

Lick your wounds and move on. The one good thing about the school of hard
knocks - you seldom forget the lesson.

Karl

wrote:
I won an auction on Ebay and paid with paypal. The seller shipped the
wrong item. We made several attempts to contact seller, he finally
responded and said ship it back to him. I said please send a call tag
for the item. I lodged a complaint with Paypal. I finally heard back
from paypal, they say the seller provided proof that he shipped the
item. I am bald already and I am ready to pull my hair out. What can
I do now with paypal or ebay. My wife says we cannot file a new
complaint about this item.
I don't see why not. He filed a report that he
shipped the correct item. You say you got
nothing. There is some kind of "counterclaim"
report you can file to say you did not receive the
replacement item. If it is serious money, you
definitely should keep on it. PayPal really does
lean on sellers to make it right or explain why
the buyer cannot be satisfied. If PayPal has
proof the item saw shipped, can you get the
tracking number from them?

Jon

On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 07:40:14 -0700 (PDT), the infamous
scrawled the following:

I won an auction on Ebay and paid with paypal. The seller shipped the
wrong item. We made several attempts to contact seller, he finally
responded and said ship it back to him. I said please send a call tag
for the item. I lodged a complaint with Paypal. I finally heard back
from paypal, they say the seller provided proof that he shipped the
item. I am bald already and I am ready to pull my hair out. What can
I do now with paypal or ebay. My wife says we cannot file a new
complaint about this item.

Do you have proof that you shipped it back, and emails between the two
of you to provide to PayPal? They should act in your favor if so.
Call them and get it straightened out, jano.

--
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exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong
remedy." -- Ernest Benn

On Oct 16, 9:40*am, wrote:
I won an auction on Ebay and paid with paypal. The seller shipped the
wrong item. We made several attempts to contact seller, he finally
responded and said ship it back to him. I said please send a call tag
for the item. I lodged a complaint with Paypal. I finally heard back
from paypal, they say the seller provided proof that he shipped the
item. I am bald already and I am ready to pull my hair out. *What can
I do now with paypal or ebay. My wife says we cannot file a new
complaint about this item.

Scott in Texas

You can leave the seller BAD feedback.

Lewis.

*****

wrote:

I lodged a complaint with Paypal. I finally heard back
from paypal, they say the seller provided proof that he shipped the
item.

The item or a item? The seller provided proof of a shipment, nothing more.

Wes

If your PayPal payment was credit card, call the CC co. and void the
payment. If you paid with Instant Check- you're screwed. I always use CC
for this reason.
JR
Dweller in the cellar


wrote:
I won an auction on Ebay and paid with paypal. The seller shipped the
wrong item. We made several attempts to contact seller, he finally
responded and said ship it back to him. I said please send a call tag
for the item. I lodged a complaint with Paypal. I finally heard back
from paypal, they say the seller provided proof that he shipped the
item. I am bald already and I am ready to pull my hair out. What can
I do now with paypal or ebay. My wife says we cannot file a new
complaint about this item.

Scott in Texas

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wrote in message
...
I won an auction on Ebay and paid with paypal. The seller shipped the
wrong item. We made several attempts to contact seller, he finally
responded and said ship it back to him. I said please send a call tag
for the item. I lodged a complaint with Paypal. I finally heard back
from paypal, they say the seller provided proof that he shipped the
item. I am bald already and I am ready to pull my hair out. What can
I do now with paypal or ebay. My wife says we cannot file a new
complaint about this item.

Scott in Texas

They will tell you they don't get involved with "disputes over
descriptions". I went through this when some scummer sold me what turned out
to be a refurb computer from Ubid as new.

ATP* wrote:
wrote in message
...
I won an auction on Ebay and paid with paypal. The seller shipped the
wrong item. We made several attempts to contact seller, he finally
responded and said ship it back to him. I said please send a call tag
for the item. I lodged a complaint with Paypal. I finally heard back
from paypal, they say the seller provided proof that he shipped the
item. I am bald already and I am ready to pull my hair out. What can
I do now with paypal or ebay. My wife says we cannot file a new
complaint about this item.

Scott in Texas

They will tell you they don't get involved with "disputes over
descriptions". I went through this when some scummer sold me what turned out
to be a refurb computer from Ubid as new.



But, Jano apparently has NO item at all, now.
That is a valid dispute.

Jon

"Jon Elson" wrote in message
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ATP* wrote:
wrote in message
...
I won an auction on Ebay and paid with paypal. The seller shipped the
wrong item. We made several attempts to contact seller, he finally
responded and said ship it back to him. I said please send a call tag
for the item. I lodged a complaint with Paypal. I finally heard back
from paypal, they say the seller provided proof that he shipped the
item. I am bald already and I am ready to pull my hair out. What can
I do now with paypal or ebay. My wife says we cannot file a new
complaint about this item.

Scott in Texas

They will tell you they don't get involved with "disputes over
descriptions". I went through this when some scummer sold me what turned
out to be a refurb computer from Ubid as new.

But, Jano apparently has NO item at all, now. That is a valid dispute.

Jon

That's not what he wrote, although it is unclear whether he shipped the item
back or not. If he did not ship the item back, he has the wrong item, and it
seems like Ebay/Paypal doesn't care.

I also think misrepresenting an item as new should be a valid dispute.

wrote in message
...
I won an auction on Ebay and paid with paypal. The seller shipped the
wrong item. We made several attempts to contact seller, he finally
responded and said ship it back to him. I said please send a call tag
for the item. I lodged a complaint with Paypal. I finally heard back
from paypal, they say the seller provided proof that he shipped the
item. I am bald already and I am ready to pull my hair out. What can
I do now with paypal or ebay. My wife says we cannot file a new
complaint about this item.

Scott in Texas

If I use paypal I always use a credit card to make the payment, if things go
wrong I dont have to bother with Paypal dispute process, I can just lodge a
chargeback on my credit card.

For the above reason I never accept Paypal when selling something either!!

wrote:
I won an auction on Ebay and paid with paypal. The seller shipped the
wrong item. We made several attempts to contact seller, he finally
responded and said ship it back to him. I said please send a call tag
for the item. I lodged a complaint with Paypal. I finally heard back
from paypal, they say the seller provided proof that he shipped the
item. I am bald already and I am ready to pull my hair out. What can
I do now with paypal or ebay. My wife says we cannot file a new
complaint about this item.

Scott in Texas

If you still have the item, file a complaint with paypal saying the item
is significantly not as described. I think it is called a SNAD.

Have no more communication with the seller, only paypal.

If this fails, charge back the credit card you use to fund your paypal
account.


technomaNge
--

Thank you all for the advise, I will use a credit card next time. I
ordered a headset and got a microphone for a video game. Paypal will
not help and I believe this is the scam of the day. Sell something and
ship anything, IF paypal investigates the seller shows a shipment to
an address and it is his word against mine.
I am telling this to the group to help anyone else that might get
scammed. Why would anyone investigate something around 20 bucks. The
seller is http://myworld.ebay.com/irvine_international. I won the
auction Sept. 3rd.
If Ebay cannot or will stop scams, then this company will not have
a profitable future. There are good people on Ebay. I am second
guessing everyone now. Here is my feedback http://myworld.ebay.com/klooch.\

Thank you for listening,

Scott in Texas

wrote:
Thank you all for the advise, I will use a credit card next time. I
ordered a headset and got a microphone for a video game. Paypal will
not help and I believe this is the scam of the day. Sell something and
ship anything, IF paypal investigates the seller shows a shipment to
an address and it is his word against mine.
I am telling this to the group to help anyone else that might get
scammed. Why would anyone investigate something around 20 bucks. The
seller is http://myworld.ebay.com/irvine_international. I won the
auction Sept. 3rd.
I bought some used hard drives about two years
ago. They were all kaput, although the seller
"guaranteed" them not DOA. I returned the bad
units, and had to call
several times to verify he had received the
returns. (He wouldn't respond to any messages
through eBay.) He never sent any replacements
after promising to do so.
I filed a dispute through PayPal, and was
eventually refunded full price. I did lose the
return shipping postage.

That's my most recent dispute. I have no idea
whether PayPal has changed their methods since
then. You HAVE to be wary of these mega-merchants
that have 10,000 items sold per month. They CAN'T
be trusted to be 100% accurate with that kind of
volume of one of a kind stuff. I ALWAYS check the
detailed feedback and search for the most recent
few negative feedbacks. Those could just be
"whiners", or recipients of totally wrong items,
worthless scrap, items packaged so poorly they
were bound to be ruined, or other shoddy
practices. You can usually get a strong feeling
one way or the other by reading a couple negative
reports. You may have to scroll through 20 pages
of AOK+++++ feedback to get to the negatives, but
that's where the gold lies.

Jon

In article , Jon Elson wrote:

You can usually get a strong feeling
one way or the other by reading a couple negative
reports. You may have to scroll through 20 pages
of AOK+++++ feedback to get to the negatives, but
that's where the gold lies.


Visit www.toolhaus.org -- you can see only the negs, without having to wade
through everyghing else.

On Oct 17, 8:11*am, wrote:
Thank you all for the advise, I will use a credit card next time.

Scott in Texas

I would also not buy anything from someone with a rating of less than
98.5. There are lots of people with high ratings. No point is buying
from someone that does not care about his/her rating.

Dan

Welcome to unregulated banking...

Think how ****ed you'll be when eBay/PayPal goes tits up and you loose all
the money that in your PayPal account.

--.- Dave

wrote in message
...
I won an auction on Ebay and paid with paypal. The seller shipped the
wrong item. We made several attempts to contact seller, he finally
responded and said ship it back to him. I said please send a call tag
for the item. I lodged a complaint with Paypal. I finally heard back
from paypal, they say the seller provided proof that he shipped the
item. I am bald already and I am ready to pull my hair out. What can
I do now with paypal or ebay. My wife says we cannot file a new
complaint about this item.

Scott in Texas

wrote:
On Oct 17, 8:11 am, wrote:
Thank you all for the advise, I will use a credit card next time.

Scott in Texas

I would also not buy anything from someone with a rating of less than
98.5. There are lots of people with high ratings. No point is buying
from someone that does not care about his/her rating.
There are some schlock shops that ship 10,000 +
items a month that have 99.8+% feedback, but 250+
negatives per month. The percentage looks good,
but they must be doing something quite wrong to
have 250+ people a month very unhappy.
I go beyond the percentage and look for a couple
of the most recent negatives.
If they sound like whiners or have zero feedback
(= zero experience) I may discount that, but then
you'll find somebody that says they got total crap
for an item listed as "perfect condition" and
cost them $400 or something. That is a big red flag.
Unless it is a one of a kind item that I really
need, I keep looking.

Jon