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On my barbecue, it came with several plastic fasteners. They look like a bolt, but with the shaft made up of a split arrow head. It holds together two pieces of sheet metal, and is used by simply pressing the arrowhead through the holes in the sheet metal, and when it is in far enough, the arrow points spring outward and it catches, and the head on one side and the arrowhead point on the other keep it from coming out. All you see on the outside is the round plastic head. I'd like to find some to replace the ones that have gone missing. What is the proper name for these? They are about 5/8" long, have a head of about 1/2", and a shaft diameter of about 1/4". They are black plastic. Thanks. Don't remember what they are called but I found some in the auto parts store. Not exactly like you described, but work the same. technomaNge -- Obama - raises taxes and kills babies. Sarah Palin - raises babies and kills taxes. |
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Some kind of push in rivet. Go to www.grainger.com and then page 2897
for a start. -- Regards, Carl Ijames carl.ijames at verizon.net "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message news On my barbecue, it came with several plastic fasteners. They look like a bolt, but with the shaft made up of a split arrow head. It holds together two pieces of sheet metal, and is used by simply pressing the arrowhead through the holes in the sheet metal, and when it is in far enough, the arrow points spring outward and it catches, and the head on one side and the arrowhead point on the other keep it from coming out. All you see on the outside is the round plastic head. I'd like to find some to replace the ones that have gone missing. What is the proper name for these? They are about 5/8" long, have a head of about 1/2", and a shaft diameter of about 1/4". They are black plastic. Thanks. -- "...the man who really counts in the world is the doer, not the mere critic-the man who actually does the work, even if roughly and imperfectly, not the man who only talks or writes about how it ought to be done." Theodore Roosevelt 1891 |
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On my barbecue, it came with several plastic fasteners. They look like a
bolt, but with the shaft made up of a split arrow head. It holds together two pieces of sheet metal, and is used by simply pressing the arrowhead through the holes in the sheet metal, and when it is in far enough, the arrow points spring outward and it catches, and the head on one side and the arrowhead point on the other keep it from coming out. All you see on the outside is the round plastic head. I'd like to find some to replace the ones that have gone missing. What is the proper name for these? They are about 5/8" long, have a head of about 1/2", and a shaft diameter of about 1/4". They are black plastic. Thanks. -- "...the man who really counts in the world is the doer, not the mere critic-the man who actually does the work, even if roughly and imperfectly, not the man who only talks or writes about how it ought to be done." Theodore Roosevelt 1891 |
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On my barbecue, it came with several plastic fasteners. Arrow Clips? http://www.voltplastics.com/catalog/HTML/sac1.html Christmas tree clips? https://secure.microplastics.com/det...c7%99%e1%81%aa http://storefixturesandequipment.ind...__Sign_Holders --Winston |
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On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:18:13 -0800, "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas
wrote: On my barbecue, it came with several plastic fasteners. They look like a bolt, but with the shaft made up of a split arrow head. It holds together two pieces of sheet metal, and is used by simply pressing the arrowhead through the holes in the sheet metal, and when it is in far enough, the arrow points spring outward and it catches, and the head on one side and the arrowhead point on the other keep it from coming out. All you see on the outside is the round plastic head. I'd like to find some to replace the ones that have gone missing. What is the proper name for these? They are about 5/8" long, have a head of about 1/2", and a shaft diameter of about 1/4". They are black plastic. Thanks. I don't know their proper name, but here's a source for them: http://www.thefastenerwarehouse.com/...age/584919.htm A good auto parts or autobody supply store will have a few choices. |
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McMaster Carr carries black clip-lock shank nylon rivets which may
work: Item # 91020A430. You might also see if your local auto parts store can match it -- ask for “plastic panel fasteners”. Maybe they'll recognize it as being used for a particular make of car. Here’s some more info on names, dimensions, etc. for these fasteners: http://www.wclco.com/Plastic_Compone..._Fasteners.php http://www.fastex.com.au/plastic_fasteners.htm Other links to various auto body trim and panel fasteners: http://www.autobodysupplies.com/ http://www.thefastenerwarehouse.com/...age/568575.htm http://www.tech-fast.com/html/panel_fasteners.html |
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On my barbecue, it came with several plastic fasteners. Plastic won't last a year in sunlight. Use stainless sheet metal screws. |
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Richard J Kinch wrote:
SteveB writes: On my barbecue, it came with several plastic fasteners. Plastic won't last a year in sunlight. Use stainless sheet metal screws. There are different grades of plastic. Tye wraps come generally in white and black. The white ones are for inside use and the black ones are for outside use. The white ones would probably not last a year in sunlight. The black ones will last for many years. I'm sure color is not the only factor here, but just a way of designating the inside/outside use of them. |
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On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:51:41 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,
technomaNge quickly quoth: SteveB wrote: On my barbecue, it came with several plastic fasteners. They look like a bolt, but with the shaft made up of a split arrow head. It holds together two pieces of sheet metal, and is used by simply pressing the arrowhead through the holes in the sheet metal, and when it is in far enough, the arrow points spring outward and it catches, and the head on one side and the arrowhead point on the other keep it from coming out. All you see on the outside is the round plastic head. I'd like to find some to replace the ones that have gone missing. What is the proper name for these? They are about 5/8" long, have a head of about 1/2", and a shaft diameter of about 1/4". They are black plastic. Thanks. Don't remember what they are called but I found some in the auto parts store. Not exactly like you described, but work the same. Automotive trim fasteners, usually nylon. http://tinyurl.com/5pfvrq -- Guard well within yourself that treasure, kindness. Know how to give without hesitation, how to lose without regret, how to acquire without meanness. -- George Sand |
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:35:09 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Don
Foreman quickly quoth: On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:18:13 -0800, "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote: On my barbecue, it came with several plastic fasteners. They look like a bolt, but with the shaft made up of a split arrow head. It holds together two pieces of sheet metal, and is used by simply pressing the arrowhead through the holes in the sheet metal, and when it is in far enough, the arrow points spring outward and it catches, and the head on one side and the arrowhead point on the other keep it from coming out. All you see on the outside is the round plastic head. I'd like to find some to replace the ones that have gone missing. What is the proper name for these? They are about 5/8" long, have a head of about 1/2", and a shaft diameter of about 1/4". They are black plastic. Thanks. I don't know their proper name, but here's a source for them: http://www.thefastenerwarehouse.com/...age/584919.htm A good auto parts or autobody supply store will have a few choices. Winnie got it right with "Christmas tree fasteners" found on the Trim Retainers 1 page above. Better yet, the push-lock rivet style is a reusable fastener. Find them on Trim Retainers 2 page at the above URL. -- Guard well within yourself that treasure, kindness. Know how to give without hesitation, how to lose without regret, how to acquire without meanness. -- George Sand |
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:32:40 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:35:09 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Don Foreman quickly quoth: On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:18:13 -0800, "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote: On my barbecue, it came with several plastic fasteners. They look like a bolt, but with the shaft made up of a split arrow head. It holds together two pieces of sheet metal, and is used by simply pressing the arrowhead through the holes in the sheet metal, and when it is in far enough, the arrow points spring outward and it catches, and the head on one side and the arrowhead point on the other keep it from coming out. All you see on the outside is the round plastic head. I'd like to find some to replace the ones that have gone missing. What is the proper name for these? They are about 5/8" long, have a head of about 1/2", and a shaft diameter of about 1/4". They are black plastic. Thanks. I don't know their proper name, but here's a source for them: http://www.thefastenerwarehouse.com/...age/584919.htm A good auto parts or autobody supply store will have a few choices. Winnie got it right with "Christmas tree fasteners" found on the Trim Retainers 1 page above. Better yet, the push-lock rivet style is a reusable fastener. Find them on Trim Retainers 2 page at the above URL. I believe that Autozone carries them Gunner "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened." -- Norman Thomas, American socialist |
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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:32:40 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:35:09 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Don Foreman quickly quoth: On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:18:13 -0800, "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote: On my barbecue, it came with several plastic fasteners. They look like a bolt, but with the shaft made up of a split arrow head. It holds together two pieces of sheet metal, and is used by simply pressing the arrowhead through the holes in the sheet metal, and when it is in far enough, the arrow points spring outward and it catches, and the head on one side and the arrowhead point on the other keep it from coming out. All you see on the outside is the round plastic head. I'd like to find some to replace the ones that have gone missing. What is the proper name for these? They are about 5/8" long, have a head of about 1/2", and a shaft diameter of about 1/4". They are black plastic. Thanks. I don't know their proper name, but here's a source for them: http://www.thefastenerwarehouse.com/...age/584919.htm A good auto parts or autobody supply store will have a few choices. Winnie got it right with "Christmas tree fasteners" found on the Trim Retainers 1 page above. Better yet, the push-lock rivet style is a reusable fastener. Find them on Trim Retainers 2 page at the above URL. I believe that Autozone carries them Gunner Seems I saw them in the Advance Store. |
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On Sep 14, 6:21*am, Al Patrick wrote:
Richard J Kinch wrote: SteveB writes: On my barbecue, it came with several plastic fasteners. Plastic won't last a year in sunlight. *Use stainless sheet metal screws. There are different grades of plastic. *Tye wraps come generally in white and black. *The white ones are for inside use and the black ones are for outside use. *The white ones would probably not last a year in sunlight. *The black ones will last for many years. I'm sure color is not the only factor here, but just a way of designating the inside/outside use of them. Generally I prefer metal to plastic fasteners. If Steve has existing ¼” dia. holes for attaching the panels, screws for that size hole are a bit big -- unless he prefers the looks of a “Franken-Barbie.” g. http://www.aaronsself-tappingscrews....rill_sizes.htm If it was mine, I might fix it with ¼” metal rivets using a riveter similar to this one: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=41291 Regarding plastics surviving sunlight, see: http://www.zeusinc.com/pdf/Zeus_UV_Properties.pdf 2% carbon black & UV protection in plastics (see pg. 4): For another plastic rivet solution HF tools provides yet another option – plastic riveter + (industrial strength) rivets: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=97757 |
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