In article ,
Ignoramus22222 wrote:

I use a game camera with good results. I get pictures of anything that
moves within the field of view. Have been using it to watch my farm
gate for some time and am pleased with the results. Make sure you
enclose it in a steel box so it can't be stolen easily. Even if damaged
the picture of the perp will be on the chip.

Do you have a brand of that camera? Anything that I can get started
with?

I use a Moultrie, IIRC a D-40. Good combination of cheap, good
pictures, and sensitive motion sensor. Downside is it takes a couple of
seconds to wake up and shoot a pix after it senses motion. Wish I could
hack it to never shut down because I'm running it off AC, but if you use
it off DC you need it to go to sleep for battery life.

There are better one out there, more expensive. Avoid any that do not
date & time stamp the pictures - the cheap ones don't ;(

Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/

On Jul 31, 6:16*pm, Ignoramus25244 ignoramus25...@NOSPAM.
25244.invalid wrote:
Someone smashed the window of my truck, as it was parked at the train
station, and stole a GPS. I have grown too much trusting in people, I
think, and did not expect this sort of thing to happen, plus this used
to be a "nice area", so I did not hide my GPS.

I guess, a lesson learned.



Have you had an influx of minorities..





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On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:16:24 -0500, Ignoramus25244
wrote:

Someone smashed the window of my truck, as it was parked at the train
station, and stole a GPS. I have grown too much trusting in people, I
think, and did not expect this sort of thing to happen, plus this used
to be a "nice area", so I did not hide my GPS.

I guess, a lesson learned.

When I was still going on trips I had a Garmin GPS III
velcroed to the dash. When ever I had to stop and leave the
truck unattended, that is exactly where I put a cap/hat that
was in the truck just for that purpose. You had to look
really hard from outside the truck to realize that there was
something hiding underneath the hat.

I always kept a spare coat, sweatshirt... something commonly
seen in vehicles of little value covering anything of value.
Out of sight always worked for me (knock on wood).

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
Remove no.spam for email

Ignoramus25244 wrote:
On 2008-08-01, Christopher Tidy wrote:

Ignoramus25244 wrote:

Someone smashed the window of my truck, as it was parked at the train
station, and stole a GPS. I have grown too much trusting in people, I
think, and did not expect this sort of thing to happen, plus this used
to be a "nice area", so I did not hide my GPS.

Similar thing happened to some guys my mother knows. They went climbing
somewhere remote, but left some gear and bikes in their van. When they
returned, the gear had been stolen. So the next week they did the same,
but hid near the van. Nothing happened, so they did it the week after,
and the guys broke into the van again, so they grabbed them and took
them to the police.


And then what happened?

I think the response from the police was positive, that is, they charged
the guys, but I don't remember for sure. It goes back to when I was in
high school.

Chris

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:14:53 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm,
"ATP*" quickly quoth:


"Christopher Tidy" wrote in message
...
Ignoramus25244 wrote:
Someone smashed the window of my truck, as it was parked at the train
station, and stole a GPS. I have grown too much trusting in people, I
think, and did not expect this sort of thing to happen, plus this used
to be a "nice area", so I did not hide my GPS.

Similar thing happened to some guys my mother knows. They went climbing
somewhere remote, but left some gear and bikes in their van. When they
returned, the gear had been stolen. So the next week they did the same,
but hid near the van. Nothing happened, so they did it the week after, and
the guys broke into the van again, so they grabbed them and took them to
the police.

I was hoping for a better ending.....

Like the perps accidentally falling off a cliff? That would have made
my day.

--
Imagination is more important than knowledge...
Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)

On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:17:35 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:



I have a commercial thermoelectic cooler now, which I use mostly on
vacations. But that one is 'way too big to keep in the trunk all the time.
But if I were doing it again, I'd buy one of those to start. Then I'd still
build the small cooler, and put the guts into it from the commercial one.
You wouldn't need the fan, if you did it right.

My homemade foam coolers are many times more efficient than commercial
coolers. And they cost only a few bucks to make.

Secret weapon: minnows, particularly fragile ones like rainbows,
succumb much more quickly to overtemp than to lack of oxygen. Cooled
oxygenated water keeps minnows combat-ready. "Show me a walleye,
eeeyahhh!"

Don' need no air-to-air heat exchangers AKA heatsinks. The lake, and
therefore the livewell, is a huge water-cooled sink for the TE cooler.
Shhhhh..don't tell!

On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 08:42:22 -0500, Ignoramus22222
wrote:

On 2008-08-01, nick hull wrote:
In article ,
Ignoramus25244 wrote:

I am considering buying a recording camera of some kind with low amp
draw, 12v powered. Any idea?

I use a game camera with good results. I get pictures of anything that
moves within the field of view. Have been using it to watch my farm
gate for some time and am pleased with the results. Make sure you
enclose it in a steel box so it can't be stolen easily. Even if damaged
the picture of the perp will be on the chip.

Do you have a brand of that camera? Anything that I can get started
with?

i

What would you do with pix of perps if you had them? How might they
be worth the bother of collecting?

Ignoramus22222 wrote:

People are better, too. I do not live in Chicago however.

Good for you but Cook county seems to extend their tenticles across the state. I find it
amazing how Illinois exists right next to Indiana and far more rational state.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

wrote:

Canada isn't much different from the US in terms of crime
rates. A conservative newspaper here in Canada has a columnist named
Lorrie Goldstein, who makes some really good points. Here's today's
article, from http://www.torontosun.com/News/Colum...316061-sun.php

How is Canada's efforts to expand the population via immigration affecting the crime rate?
IIRC, there is an active policy to bump up your total population.

And as Samuel Clements said, "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics" or something
like that.

Wes

nick hull wrote:

If you are in a remote area, how hard is it to carry a shovel?


Your pet dog is worth burying. Leave them lay with a sign stating THIEF. (leave no
prints or dna)

Wes

On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 00:06:26 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Don
Foreman quickly quoth:

On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:17:35 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:



I have a commercial thermoelectic cooler now, which I use mostly on
vacations. But that one is 'way too big to keep in the trunk all the time.
But if I were doing it again, I'd buy one of those to start. Then I'd still
build the small cooler, and put the guts into it from the commercial one.
You wouldn't need the fan, if you did it right.

My homemade foam coolers are many times more efficient than commercial
coolers. And they cost only a few bucks to make.

Don, you forgot to ask Ed what secret foam was used for the
super-efficient coolers.


Secret weapon: minnows, particularly fragile ones like rainbows,
succumb much more quickly to overtemp than to lack of oxygen. Cooled
oxygenated water keeps minnows combat-ready. "Show me a walleye,
eeeyahhh!"

I can hear this commentary in living rooms around the world tonight...
"Yes, dear. There really was somebody on Usenet today talking about
'combat-ready minnows'. No, dear, I don't think they were referring
to the Gilligan boat." chuckle

--
Imagination is more important than knowledge...
Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)

On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 00:11:36 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Don
Foreman quickly quoth:

On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 08:42:22 -0500, Ignoramus22222
wrote:

On 2008-08-01, nick hull wrote:
In article ,
Ignoramus25244 wrote:

I am considering buying a recording camera of some kind with low amp
draw, 12v powered. Any idea?

I use a game camera with good results. I get pictures of anything that
moves within the field of view. Have been using it to watch my farm
gate for some time and am pleased with the results. Make sure you
enclose it in a steel box so it can't be stolen easily. Even if damaged
the picture of the perp will be on the chip.

Do you have a brand of that camera? Anything that I can get started
with?

i

What would you do with pix of perps if you had them? How might they
be worth the bother of collecting?

One use might be to show a tracker who to look for since the police
can't do it. A person might find the largest, meanest guys in the
neighborhood and have them track down the perps (and if they serve
justice to the perps, who's to worry?), returning the stolen goods to
you for a reward.

--
Imagination is more important than knowledge...
Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)

Ignoramus25244 wrote:
On 2008-08-01, Wes wrote:

Christopher Tidy wrote:


Similar thing happened to some guys my mother knows. They went climbing
somewhere remote, but left some gear and bikes in their van. When they
returned, the gear had been stolen. So the next week they did the same,
but hid near the van. Nothing happened, so they did it the week after,
and the guys broke into the van again, so they grabbed them and took
them to the police.


Years ago when I was in the Marines, I had a Staff Sergeant in my department whose friends
in Laurel bay had been burgled.

He did a bit of sleuthing and realized that other Marines had their homes tossed and the
common point is that they all had contacted the MP detachment asking them to keep an eye
on their homes while they were on deployment or vacation.

So SSGT Doyle, decided to set up a sting. Told the MP's that he had a monster collection
of firearms and other valuables and was worried about them due to the recent burglaries in
Laurel Bay and asked them to keep an eye on his place while he was TAD to where ever.

Doyle let his grass grow long and had some of the other Marines that homes were
burglarized over each night to see if lightning struck again. It was the base MP's that
broke in one night. They were met by some angry Marines with firearms that had way too
many beers while playing poker and waiting. The South Carolina state police were called
in. Score one for the good guys. I liked SSGT Doyle. Sorta like Gunner on steroids.
Urrah!


What happened to the burglars?

Anyway. The police officer said that they stay in touch with the three
local pawn shops. I gave him the serial number of the stolen GPS. I
will keep an eye on ebay myself, I set a perl script watch to look for
any GPSes within 25 miles from me.

I personally think that this is a very stupid thing to do in general
and therefore believe that it is local kids who did it.

I am considering buying a recording camera of some kind with low amp
draw, 12v powered. Any idea?

Check this out:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/c...re/4272041.stm

Chris

What a crock,,, "one never feels secure again" BullSH!T.....
Talk about liberal .... Its like "oh I tripped on the stairs, ill never go
up stairs again"... People need to get over it.... My Grandfather used to
call stuff like this experience and then say, " Bet you will never do that
again" but that crap of "Ill never feel secure again" ...... arrrrgggg.

Sorry, my blood boils when I hear that type of thing...

Sorry to hear you lost a GPS. I hate thieves too...

.. bob in phx
"Wes" wrote in message
...
Ignoramus25244 wrote:

Someone smashed the window of my truck, as it was parked at the train
station, and stole a GPS. I have grown too much trusting in people, I
think, and did not expect this sort of thing to happen, plus this used
to be a "nice area", so I did not hide my GPS.

I guess, a lesson learned.


No, that is the true violence of someone breaking into your home or
vehicle. One never
feels as secure again. But some libtard judge would likely view it as a
petty crime if
the criminal is apprehended.


Wes

"Don Foreman" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:17:35 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:



I have a commercial thermoelectic cooler now, which I use mostly on
vacations. But that one is 'way too big to keep in the trunk all the time.
But if I were doing it again, I'd buy one of those to start. Then I'd
still
build the small cooler, and put the guts into it from the commercial one.
You wouldn't need the fan, if you did it right.

My homemade foam coolers are many times more efficient than commercial
coolers. And they cost only a few bucks to make.

Secret weapon: minnows, particularly fragile ones like rainbows,
succumb much more quickly to overtemp than to lack of oxygen. Cooled
oxygenated water keeps minnows combat-ready. "Show me a walleye,
eeeyahhh!"

Don' need no air-to-air heat exchangers AKA heatsinks. The lake, and
therefore the livewell, is a huge water-cooled sink for the TE cooler.
Shhhhh..don't tell!

Good idea. Maybe Iggy should get a boat. g

--
Ed Huntress

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 00:06:26 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Don
Foreman quickly quoth:

On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:17:35 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:



I have a commercial thermoelectic cooler now, which I use mostly on
vacations. But that one is 'way too big to keep in the trunk all the
time.
But if I were doing it again, I'd buy one of those to start. Then I'd
still
build the small cooler, and put the guts into it from the commercial one.
You wouldn't need the fan, if you did it right.

My homemade foam coolers are many times more efficient than commercial
coolers. And they cost only a few bucks to make.

Don, you forgot to ask Ed what secret foam was used for the
super-efficient coolers.

Just ordinary Styrofoam blueboard, 2" thick. I use 1- or 1-1/2" for very
small ones. Have you seen what's in commercial coolers lately? Ha! You're
lucky if it's a half-inch thick.

I've made close to a dozen of these over the years. Mostly they're to keep
equipment from overheating. An old rubbing-alcohol bottle, filled with water
and frozen, will keep all my blood-testing stuff cool for two days inside of
a 8-inch-cube of 2" Styrofoam, inside of a hot car.

I just cut it with a carpenter's saw, and I cut a rabbet in the top and the
lid, with a utility knife, to get a good fit. I keep it closed with a big
rubber band or, for the big ones, a piece of thin bungee cord. Glue the
pieces together with something that doesn't dissolve Styrofoam. I usually
use waterproof Titebond, or Elmer's white waterproof glue.

These things last longer than you'd think if you don't beat them up. I have
a little one I made for film that must be 20 years old.



Secret weapon: minnows, particularly fragile ones like rainbows,
succumb much more quickly to overtemp than to lack of oxygen. Cooled
oxygenated water keeps minnows combat-ready. "Show me a walleye,
eeeyahhh!"

I can hear this commentary in living rooms around the world tonight...
"Yes, dear. There really was somebody on Usenet today talking about
'combat-ready minnows'. No, dear, I don't think they were referring
to the Gilligan boat." chuckle

--
Imagination is more important than knowledge...
Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)

On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 04:03:44 -0400, Wes wrote:

nick hull wrote:

If you are in a remote area, how hard is it to carry a shovel?


Your pet dog is worth burying. Leave them lay with a sign stating THIEF. (leave no
prints or dna)

Wes


Magic Marker across the forehead is good, as long as the maggots dont
beat the coroner to the meat.


"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and
complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the competing factions of Islamic
fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core, and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr

On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 06:20:54 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

I can hear this commentary in living rooms around the world tonight...
"Yes, dear. There really was somebody on Usenet today talking about
'combat-ready minnows'. No, dear, I don't think they were referring
to the Gilligan boat." chuckle

Mental picture of Minnow painted on the bridge of a PT boat, with
Gilligan in cammies, black sweatband trailing in the wind, behind the
sights of a blazing quad 50, with Mary Ann in camo bikini feeding the
gun..the Skipper behind the wheel, cigar clenched in his teeth,
fighting the boat, with the Professor laying out a torp plot......

Ginger in Gold Spandex cat suit on the XM-201 blooping out rounds...

The Howells at the stern in afternoon attire, with rods in the water
and a marlin on the hook......ignoring the incoming water splashes....

Get Some!!!!!



Im not going to sleep well after this......


Gunner

"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and
complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the competing factions of Islamic
fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core, and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr

On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:06:13 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ed
Huntress" quickly quoth:


"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 00:06:26 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Don
Foreman quickly quoth:

On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:17:35 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:



I have a commercial thermoelectic cooler now, which I use mostly on
vacations. But that one is 'way too big to keep in the trunk all the
time.
But if I were doing it again, I'd buy one of those to start. Then I'd
still
build the small cooler, and put the guts into it from the commercial one.
You wouldn't need the fan, if you did it right.

My homemade foam coolers are many times more efficient than commercial
coolers. And they cost only a few bucks to make.

Don, you forgot to ask Ed what secret foam was used for the
super-efficient coolers.

Just ordinary Styrofoam blueboard, 2" thick. I use 1- or 1-1/2" for very

That's good stuff, and much cheaper than spray-in.


small ones. Have you seen what's in commercial coolers lately? Ha! You're
lucky if it's a half-inch thick.

Yeah, with an R-factor of 3.2 per inch on a good day.


I've made close to a dozen of these over the years. Mostly they're to keep
equipment from overheating. An old rubbing-alcohol bottle, filled with water
and frozen, will keep all my blood-testing stuff cool for two days inside of
a 8-inch-cube of 2" Styrofoam, inside of a hot car.

Sacre bleu! Do you do live blood testing, or are you secretly a
vampire? My sister has live blood testing equipment for her
nutrition business. She's an N.D., a Naturopathic Doctor in CA.


I just cut it with a carpenter's saw, and I cut a rabbet in the top and the
lid, with a utility knife, to get a good fit. I keep it closed with a big
rubber band or, for the big ones, a piece of thin bungee cord. Glue the
pieces together with something that doesn't dissolve Styrofoam. I usually
use waterproof Titebond, or Elmer's white waterproof glue.

Titebond works on styro? Cool. I'll remember that. Construction
adhesive tends to eat some unfaced foams. Maybe that's why most are
faced nowadays.


These things last longer than you'd think if you don't beat them up. I have
a little one I made for film that must be 20 years old.

Don't tell me that you still use film!
Do what you feel in your heart to be right - for you'll be criticized
anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
-- Eleanor Roosevelt

On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:00:38 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner Asch quickly quoth:

On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 06:20:54 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

I can hear this commentary in living rooms around the world tonight...
"Yes, dear. There really was somebody on Usenet today talking about
'combat-ready minnows'. No, dear, I don't think they were referring
to the Gilligan boat." chuckle

Mental picture of Minnow painted on the bridge of a PT boat, with
Gilligan in cammies, black sweatband trailing in the wind, behind the
sights of a blazing quad 50, with Mary Ann in camo bikini feeding the
gun..the Skipper behind the wheel, cigar clenched in his teeth,
fighting the boat, with the Professor laying out a torp plot......

There ya go!


Ginger in Gold Spandex cat suit on the XM-201 blooping out rounds...

Hubba Hubba! (I always preferred MaryAnn.)


The Howells at the stern in afternoon attire, with rods in the water
and a marlin on the hook......ignoring the incoming water splashes....

Get Some!!!!!



Im not going to sleep well after this......

Yeah, those old ****coms sure take their toll on your psyche, don't
they?

Whatever you do, don't start humming the theme song for I Love Lucy.
It can trigger the onset of bipolar disorder.
Do what you feel in your heart to be right - for you'll be criticized
anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
-- Eleanor Roosevelt

In article ,
Larry Jaques wrote:

Similar thing happened to some guys my mother knows. They went climbing
somewhere remote, but left some gear and bikes in their van. When they
returned, the gear had been stolen. So the next week they did the same,
but hid near the van. Nothing happened, so they did it the week after, and
the guys broke into the van again, so they grabbed them and took them to
the police.

I was hoping for a better ending.....

Like the perps accidentally falling off a cliff? That would have made
my day.

If a perp is gut shot in the woods with a single bullet and manages to
crawl 100' before expiring he will assume a perfect pose to be labelled
a hunting accident

Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/

"Bob in Phx" wrote:

What a crock,,, "one never feels secure again" BullSH!T.....
Talk about liberal .... Its like "oh I tripped on the stairs, ill never go
up stairs again"... People need to get over it.... My Grandfather used to
call stuff like this experience and then say, " Bet you will never do that
again" but that crap of "Ill never feel secure again" ...... arrrrgggg.


Bob, that was my comment. I think most will vouch that I am not liberal by todays sense
of the word. People that were going on free and easy not worrying about ripped off have a
mind change, expecially if they can't really afford being ripped off.

I live in a state where if someone is running out of the house with my coin collection, I
can't use deadly force to stop him. SOB can shoot me the finger and leave out the front
door. There I stand in my PJ's, gun in hand, powerless watching my valuables leave. Yeah,
I'm going to feel great every day after that. I can't truely defend my property when I'm
home. So far I haven't been broke in but one time and my mindset is going to change.

Not feeling safe installing or leaving an item of property in your vehicle again is the
effect of that smash and grab. Iggy will change his behavior a bit most likely. Will
always take that look backward, check on his vehical more often, ect.

Maybe I'm not reading you right but the effects are greater than the simple loss of the
property.

Wes

Larry Jaques wrote:

Hubba Hubba! (I always preferred MaryAnn.)

Mary Ann, Sally Fields, and Barbara Feldon.
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

Don Foreman wrote:

What would you do with pix of perps if you had them? How might they
be worth the bother of collecting?


Well, I bet the local cops likely know the scum. We know the regulars here, the cops know
the regulars in their jursidiction.

Wes

On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:57:39 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Wes
quickly quoth:

Larry Jaques wrote:

Hubba Hubba! (I always preferred MaryAnn.)

Mary Ann,

The babe, fer sher.


Sally Fields,

Ah, the Flying Nun!


and Barbara Feldon.

Agent 69, erm, 86.


Let us not forget Diana Rigg, aka Emma Peel! Wow, whatta booty, and
Shakespeare, too? http://tinyurl.com/5mq2w3 (That pic makes her butt
and lege look much larger than they are, but it's still sexy.)
Do what you feel in your heart to be right - for you'll be criticized
anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
-- Eleanor Roosevelt

Larry Jaques wrote:

Let us not forget Diana Rigg, aka Emma Peel! Wow, whatta booty, and
Shakespeare, too? http://tinyurl.com/5mq2w3 (That pic makes her butt
and lege look much larger than they are, but it's still sexy.)


I left Diana Rigg out on purpose. We have at least one gent getting his heart back in to
shape and she would have been way too much at this point

I coudn't get the tinyurl to resolve btw.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

Wes,
thanks for the reply, that statement is a hot button for me. I apologize, I
should have cooled down a min or two before blasting off!!! I do
understand that the crime will result in changed behavior and that is
understandable. I was reading to much into the statement and as we used to
say back in the day......

I let my mouth over run my ass.

thanks
bob in phx
"Wes" wrote in message
...
"Bob in Phx" wrote:

What a crock,,, "one never feels secure again" BullSH!T.....
Talk about liberal .... Its like "oh I tripped on the stairs, ill never go
up stairs again"... People need to get over it.... My Grandfather used to
call stuff like this experience and then say, " Bet you will never do that
again" but that crap of "Ill never feel secure again" ...... arrrrgggg.


Bob, that was my comment. I think most will vouch that I am not liberal
by todays sense
of the word. People that were going on free and easy not worrying about
ripped off have a
mind change, expecially if they can't really afford being ripped off.

I live in a state where if someone is running out of the house with my
coin collection, I
can't use deadly force to stop him. SOB can shoot me the finger and leave
out the front
door. There I stand in my PJ's, gun in hand, powerless watching my
valuables leave. Yeah,
I'm going to feel great every day after that. I can't truely defend my
property when I'm
home. So far I haven't been broke in but one time and my mindset is going
to change.

Not feeling safe installing or leaving an item of property in your vehicle
again is the
effect of that smash and grab. Iggy will change his behavior a bit most
likely. Will
always take that look backward, check on his vehical more often, ect.

Maybe I'm not reading you right but the effects are greater than the
simple loss of the
property.

Wes

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:12:29 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Wes
quickly quoth:

Larry Jaques wrote:

Let us not forget Diana Rigg, aka Emma Peel! Wow, whatta booty, and
Shakespeare, too? http://tinyurl.com/5mq2w3 (That pic makes her butt
and lege look much larger than they are, but it's still sexy.)


I left Diana Rigg out on purpose. We have at least one gent getting his heart back in to
shape and she would have been way too much at this point

I coudn't get the tinyurl to resolve btw.

Hmm, you're right. Click the top middle pic at
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=emma+peel and go to the full
size pic.

It's enough to give one a heart-on.

--
Do what you feel in your heart to be right - for you'll be criticized
anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
-- Eleanor Roosevelt

Larry Jaques wrote:


Agent 69, erm, 86.

86? Double eww!
http://www.einsiders.com/features/images/don_adams.jpg

You meant 99, perhaps (Hubba hubba!)
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABP...2003371976.jpg

--Winston

"Bob in Phx" wrote:

Wes,
thanks for the reply, that statement is a hot button for me. I apologize, I
should have cooled down a min or two before blasting off!!! I do
understand that the crime will result in changed behavior and that is
understandable. I was reading to much into the statement and as we used to
say back in the day......

I let my mouth over run my ass.

Bob,

Oh, I fully understand the basic sentiment and I've let my fingers fly faster than my mind
a few times also and will most likely do it again.

Make a good day!

Wes

Winston wrote:

You meant 99, perhaps (Hubba hubba!)
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABP...2003371976.jpg

Yes, the Mary Ann of the spy gals.

Wes

Larry Jaques wrote:

Let us not forget Diana Rigg, aka Emma Peel! Wow, whatta booty, and
Shakespeare, too? http://tinyurl.com/5mq2w3 (That pic makes her butt
and lege look much larger than they are, but it's still sexy.)


I left Diana Rigg out on purpose. We have at least one gent getting his heart back in to
shape and she would have been way too much at this point

I coudn't get the tinyurl to resolve btw.

Hmm, you're right. Click the top middle pic at
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=emma+peel and go to the full
size pic.


I'm not getting the same presentation you are for some reason. Nice booty shot for my
laptop might really **** of the lady HR type at work. Sure would like to have it.
Assuming not R rated.

Wes

Larry Jaques wrote:

Hubba Hubba! (I always preferred MaryAnn.)


There was no Mary Ann in the pilot, and a different Ginger &
Professor.

http://www.truveo.com/Gilligans-Island-Marooned-Unaired-Pilot/id/596724928

(This is 24 minutes of B&W video. I'm sure Ed will fail to seethe humor
in it, too.)


--
http://improve-usenet.org/index.html

If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in
your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm

Sporadic E is the Earth's aluminum foil beanie for the 'global warming'
sheep.

In article ,
Wes wrote:

Not feeling safe installing or leaving an item of property in your vehicle
again is the
effect of that smash and grab. Iggy will change his behavior a bit most
likely. Will
always take that look backward, check on his vehical more often, ect.

The other alternative is to let them steal your shiny new tape deck that
you never got around to applying power to. When the perp (or the
recipient of stolen goods) applies power, you can read his name in the
newspaper

Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/

Winston wrote:
Larry Jaques wrote:


Agent 69, erm, 86.

86? Double eww!
http://www.einsiders.com/features/images/don_adams.jpg

You meant 99, perhaps (Hubba hubba!)
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABP...2003371976.jpg

Cool your jets, she doesn't play with boys.

David

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:32:53 -0500, nick hull wrote:

In article ,
Wes wrote:

Not feeling safe installing or leaving an item of property in your vehicle
again is the
effect of that smash and grab. Iggy will change his behavior a bit most
likely. Will
always take that look backward, check on his vehical more often, ect.

The other alternative is to let them steal your shiny new tape deck that
you never got around to applying power to. When the perp (or the
recipient of stolen goods) applies power, you can read his name in the
newspaper


Better living through chemistry....



Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those
who in times of great moral crisis maintain their neutrality",
John F. Kennedy.

David R.Birch wrote:

You meant 99, perhaps (Hubba hubba!)
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABP...2003371976.jpg


Cool your jets, she doesn't play with boys.

David

That does it.
I'm turning lesbian, like Tawm.

--Winston

On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:26:22 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm,
Winston quickly quoth:

David R.Birch wrote:

You meant 99, perhaps (Hubba hubba!)
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABP...2003371976.jpg


Cool your jets, she doesn't play with boys.

David

That does it.
I'm turning lesbian, like Tawm.

You girls, I swear. Yes, I meant Agent 99, Winifred.

--
Do what you feel in your heart to be right - for you'll be criticized
anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
-- Eleanor Roosevelt

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:12:29 -0400, Wes wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:

Let us not forget Diana Rigg, aka Emma Peel! Wow, whatta booty, and
Shakespeare, too? http://tinyurl.com/5mq2w3 (That pic makes her butt
and lege look much larger than they are, but it's still sexy.)


I left Diana Rigg out on purpose. We have at least one gent getting his heart back in to
shape and she would have been way too much at this point

Gunner can handle it. G

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:30:34 -0500, Don Foreman
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:12:29 -0400, Wes wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:

Let us not forget Diana Rigg, aka Emma Peel! Wow, whatta booty, and
Shakespeare, too? http://tinyurl.com/5mq2w3 (That pic makes her butt
and lege look much larger than they are, but it's still sexy.)


I left Diana Rigg out on purpose. We have at least one gent getting his heart back in to
shape and she would have been way too much at this point

Gunner can handle it. G

At least a couple times.


The hottest places in hell are reserved for those
who in times of great moral crisis maintain their neutrality",
John F. Kennedy.