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Wait! Don't Scrap Your Silver Just Yet!
Silver has escalated to its highest price since 1980, and it's time to
make crucial decisions. To scrap or not to scrap? First and foremost, are you absolutely certain that the object you want melted isn't a rare or important piece crafted by an important silversmith? If it was made by a silver company, are you positive it isn't one of only a few produced? These are questions that you should take into careful consideration before scrapping. Keep in mind that during the last rush to the refiners in 1980, tons of important silver that will never be reproduced was recklessly disposed of. Some of it was saved from the flames by the hands of knowledgeable silver dealers, but the majority will never be seen again in this throw-away society. I suggest giving these objects as gifts, especially if they are handwrought or contain beautifully hand-engraved monograms or chasing. These pieces are works of art and should never be melted. Why not wait for birthdays, anniversaries, or holidays, and surprise your friends or loved ones? If your silver is damaged or heavily tarnished, it might be easily restored by a specialist in silver restoration, making it useful again. If you still intend on selling your silver, consider a reputable antique dealer who has silver appraisal experience, or contact an auction house. I've spoken to many individuals who didn't do their research before scrapping, finding out soon afterwards that their silver was far more valuable than its silver content alone. Please give serious consideration to what you're looking at before shipping it to a refiner. Jeffrey Herman, Founder & Executive Director Society of American Silversmiths PO Box 72839 Providence, RI 02907 401/461-6840, Fax: 401/461-6841 E-mail: Home Page: http://www.silversmithing.com |
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Wait! Don't Scrap Your Silver Just Yet!
silverhammer wrote:
I've spoken to many individuals who didn't do their research before scrapping, finding out soon afterwards that their silver was far more valuable than its silver content alone. Please give serious consideration to what you're looking at before shipping it to a refiner. Sadly, many classic, or soon to be classic, cars are seeing the same end. We are melting our history. Wes |
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Wait! Don't Scrap Your Silver Just Yet!
Wes wrote:
silverhammer wrote: I've spoken to many individuals who didn't do their research before scrapping, finding out soon afterwards that their silver was far more valuable than its silver content alone. Please give serious consideration to what you're looking at before shipping it to a refiner. Sadly, many classic, or soon to be classic, cars are seeing the same end. We are melting our history. Wes But they're only classics after most of them have been melted down -- before that they're junk. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com Do you need to implement control loops in software? "Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" gives you just what it says. See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html |
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Wait! Don't Scrap Your Silver Just Yet!
Early in 1980, I got into my 1963 Dodge Coronet wagon and drove to Hauser &
Miller in St. Louis with a suitcase full of silver. Worn out coins, spoon rings,clippings and a bunch of new jewelry I had on memo that was worth more in scrap than the would cost me. The line was out the door. People were scrapping all sorts of cool stuff. The guy's at Hauser handled the junk like junk and the gems like gems. The really good stuff isn't getting melted. There's always someone willing to give you more than melt for quality pieces and they knew it. What gets melted is all the junk and mediocre work. One of the criteria that turns fine craftsmanship into fine art, is it's ability to stand the tests of time. Scrapping is one of those tests. Peter is right, however, if you do scrap something good, you wont be getting the best price for it. Paul K. Dickman "silverhammer" wrote in message ... Silver has escalated to its highest price since 1980, and it's time to make crucial decisions. To scrap or not to scrap? First and foremost, are you absolutely certain that the object you want melted isn't a rare or important piece crafted by an important silversmith? If it was made by a silver company, are you positive it isn't one of only a few produced? These are questions that you should take into careful consideration before scrapping. Keep in mind that during the last rush to the refiners in 1980, tons of important silver that will never be reproduced was recklessly disposed of. Some of it was saved from the flames by the hands of knowledgeable silver dealers, but the majority will never be seen again in this throw-away society. I suggest giving these objects as gifts, especially if they are handwrought or contain beautifully hand-engraved monograms or chasing. These pieces are works of art and should never be melted. Why not wait for birthdays, anniversaries, or holidays, and surprise your friends or loved ones? If your silver is damaged or heavily tarnished, it might be easily restored by a specialist in silver restoration, making it useful again. If you still intend on selling your silver, consider a reputable antique dealer who has silver appraisal experience, or contact an auction house. I've spoken to many individuals who didn't do their research before scrapping, finding out soon afterwards that their silver was far more valuable than its silver content alone. Please give serious consideration to what you're looking at before shipping it to a refiner. Jeffrey Herman, Founder & Executive Director Society of American Silversmiths PO Box 72839 Providence, RI 02907 401/461-6840, Fax: 401/461-6841 E-mail: Home Page: http://www.silversmithing.com |
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Wait! Don't Scrap Your Silver Just Yet!
"Paul K. Dickman" wrote in message ... Peter is right, Paul K. Dickman I'm sorry, I meant Jeffrey, not Peter. I had just tuned in from getting caught up Rec.crafts.jewelry and had Peter Rowe on the brain, not Jeffrey Herman. Paul K. Dickman |
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Wait! Don't Scrap Your Silver Just Yet!
silverhammer wrote:
snip about "art objects" Jeffrey Herman, Founder & Executive Director Society of American Silversmiths PO Box 72839 Providence, RI 02907 401/461-6840, Fax: 401/461-6841 E-mail: Home Page: http://www.silversmithing.com How about Ag $ coinage from circulation in the 50s Have a few of those? ...lew... |
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Wes wrote:
Sadly, many classic, or soon to be classic, cars are seeing the same end. We are melting our history. Wes It does indeed sort of break my heart to see Model A s and other cars from the 30s and 40s "butchered" up and monster engines with chrome piping atached. :-) ...lew... |
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Wait! Don't Scrap Your Silver Just Yet!
"Wes" wrote in message ... silverhammer wrote: I've spoken to many individuals who didn't do their research before scrapping, finding out soon afterwards that their silver was far more valuable than its silver content alone. Please give serious consideration to what you're looking at before shipping it to a refiner. Sadly, many classic, or soon to be classic, cars are seeing the same end. We are melting our history. Wes While I agree in principle, that cars are being destroyed, to classify them as "classics" is an injustice to true classics. What a '69 Ford has in common with a 1929 SJ Duesenberg (a true classic) is nothing aside from having four wheels and a windshield. I'm not arguing that they are desirable or collectable, just that they are poorly classified as classics. They have no classic features. Surely you realize that even some LaSalle's are not classified as classics, nor are many of the Packards that were produced. Harold |
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Wait! Don't Scrap Your Silver Just Yet!
In the 70's my mom and I were both taking jewelry classes at
night. Dad brought out his captain's wings from his days flying for TransOcean Airlines. Mom wanted to buy it for the silver. I promptly started a bidding war, and won. Dad asked in a resigned voice, "I guess you're going to melt them too...". "Hell NO!" I replied, "I'm keeping them!". Whereupon, he gave me back my money. I still have them, and they will be passed down to my daughter. Some items have value beyond price. Jon |
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On Mar 30, 6:49 pm, Lew Hartswick wrote:
silverhammer wrote: snip about "art objects" Jeffrey Herman, Founder & Executive Director Society of American Silversmiths PO Box 72839 Providence, RI 02907 401/461-6840, Fax: 401/461-6841 E-mail: Home Page:http://www.silversmithing.com How about Ag $ coinage from circulation in the 50s Have a few of those? ...lew... Those are scrappable unless there is a specific law but even then. In one of my highschool chemistry classes (Early 90's during the russian metal dumping debacle) we tool pre-1968 coins and dissolved and titrated the silver out of them we were then asked to weigh the amount of silver we got and using the spot price calculate the value. the number was in the ballpark of 40 cents even back then. likely now its over a dollar of silver for the dime. And even more obviously for nickels and quarters |
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Wait! Don't Scrap Your Silver Just Yet!
That's nothing. Hollywood has destroyed thousands of classic,
irreplaceable cars. Even Mythbusters. They cut up a classic cherry '68 Toyota Corona for the ejection seat episode. What a waste. JR Dweller in the cellar Wes wrote: silverhammer wrote: I've spoken to many individuals who didn't do their research before scrapping, finding out soon afterwards that their silver was far more valuable than its silver content alone. Please give serious consideration to what you're looking at before shipping it to a refiner. Sadly, many classic, or soon to be classic, cars are seeing the same end. We are melting our history. Wes -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes Doubt yourself, and the real world will eat you alive The world doesn't revolve around you, it revolves around me No skeletons in the closet; just decomposing corpses -------------------------------------------------------------- Dependence is Vulnerability: -------------------------------------------------------------- "Open the Pod Bay Doors please, Hal" "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.." |
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