"Vaughn Simon" wrote:

Now that you mention it, I don't like to read political **** in groups where
it doesn't belong. Thanks for asking.

Snow isn't on the ground yet and it is the Presidental season. It is going
to get much worse. Learn to filter based on reading the headers. You will
be happier that way.


Wes

PS

I'm willing to take a chance on Ron Paul.

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:37:18 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Wes
quickly quoth:

"Vaughn Simon" wrote:

Now that you mention it, I don't like to read political **** in groups where
it doesn't belong. Thanks for asking.

Snow isn't on the ground yet and it is the Presidental season. It is going
to get much worse. Learn to filter based on reading the headers. You will
be happier that way.

It is NOT the Presidential season. That's not for another fracking
_year_, damnit! I prefer the 6-week campaign vs. the 4+ year
campaigns.


PS

I'm willing to take a chance on Ron Paul.

When Fred Thompson fails to win the primary due to Rep ignorance, I'll
probably do the same.

--
Real freedom lies in wildness, not in civilization.
-- Charles Lindbergh

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:37:18 -0500, Wes wrote:
snip
PS

I'm willing to take a chance on Ron Paul.
snip
From the news reports about the huge number of small donations he
is receiving, so are a lot of other people.

FWIW -- he appears to be the only actual Republican in the race.


Unka' George [George McDuffee]
============
Merchants have no country.
The mere spot they stand on
does not constitute so strong an attachment
as that from which they draw their gains.

Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826),
U.S. president. Letter, 17 March 1814.

"F. George McDuffee" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:37:18 -0500, Wes wrote:
snip
PS

I'm willing to take a chance on Ron Paul.
snip
From the news reports about the huge number of small donations he
is receiving, so are a lot of other people.

FWIW -- he appears to be the only actual Republican in the race.

Don't say that. He's an idiot, and I'm a Republican. g

Ron Paul is one of those semi-libertarians who sounds good until you really
listen to what he says.

This is just one small example, but he was blasting Mitt Romney and telling
him he ought to read the Constitution when Paul said, "Certainly the
drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both
replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government's
hostility to religion."

There is no reference to God, or the Creator, or anything like it in the
Constitution. Maybe Paul ought to take his own advice. After eight years, it
would be nice to have another president who actually read the Constitution.
Paul isn't among them.

--
Ed Huntress

Ed,

There is no reference to God, or the Creator, or anything like it in the
Constitution. Maybe Paul ought to take his own advice. After eight years, it
would be nice to have another president who actually read the Constitution.

Fair enough, but may I add to that "one who was not simply looking for
loopholes?"

Bill

"Bill Schwab" wrote in message
...
Ed,

There is no reference to God, or the Creator, or anything like it in the
Constitution. Maybe Paul ought to take his own advice. After eight years,
it would be nice to have another president who actually read the
Constitution.

Fair enough, but may I add to that "one who was not simply looking for
loopholes?"

I'll buy that. It ought to be free, but we always have to pay a price for
it.

--
Ed Huntress

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:49:02 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ed
Huntress" quickly quoth:

Ron Paul is one of those semi-libertarians who sounds good until you really
listen to what he says.

This is just one small example, but he was blasting Mitt Romney and telling
him he ought to read the Constitution when Paul said, "Certainly the
drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both
replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government's
hostility to religion."

There is no reference to God, or the Creator, or anything like it in the
Constitution. Maybe Paul ought to take his own advice. After eight years, it
would be nice to have another president who actually read the Constitution.
Paul isn't among them.

Who has your nod for Prez, Ed?

--
Real freedom lies in wildness, not in civilization.
-- Charles Lindbergh

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:49:02 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ed
Huntress" quickly quoth:

Ron Paul is one of those semi-libertarians who sounds good until you
really
listen to what he says.

This is just one small example, but he was blasting Mitt Romney and
telling
him he ought to read the Constitution when Paul said, "Certainly the
drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both
replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal
government's
hostility to religion."

There is no reference to God, or the Creator, or anything like it in the
Constitution. Maybe Paul ought to take his own advice. After eight years,
it
would be nice to have another president who actually read the
Constitution.
Paul isn't among them.

Who has your nod for Prez, Ed?

None of the Above. I always favor candidates with two middle names.

Seriously, I'm just eliminating them at this point, not selecting. Rudi's
out. We know too much about him in the NYC area, and he's not
psychologically stable enough to be president. Mitt's out; he's a complete
act, and nobody really knows what the hell he is. Edwards is out; could
easily revert to some kind of unpleasant liberal.

Other than that, it's way too early to tell, IMO. I want to see somebody
show some mental toughness, and willingness to take some politically hard
but sensible positions. I want to see how they behave when they have to take
some heat on a principled stance. And I want them all to stop lying about
how devoutly religious they are. What a bunch of phonies.

We may have to wait until it's all over for that, if it ever comes.

--
Ed Huntress

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:09:36 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ed
Huntress" quickly quoth:


"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
Who has your nod for Prez, Ed?

None of the Above. I always favor candidates with two middle names.

Is this reminiscent of the proverbial three-named assassin or the
single-named actress or rock star?


Seriously, I'm just eliminating them at this point, not selecting. Rudi's
out. We know too much about him in the NYC area, and he's not
psychologically stable enough to be president. Mitt's out; he's a complete
act, and nobody really knows what the hell he is. Edwards is out; could
easily revert to some kind of unpleasant liberal.

Agreed x3.


Other than that, it's way too early to tell, IMO. I want to see somebody
show some mental toughness, and willingness to take some politically hard
but sensible positions. I want to see how they behave when they have to take
some heat on a principled stance. And I want them all to stop lying about
how devoutly religious they are. What a bunch of phonies.

Religion isn't something I want in a gov't official. Even phony
religion.


We may have to wait until it's all over for that, if it ever comes.

Indeed. sigh

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In article , "Ed Huntress" wrote:

None of the Above. I always favor candidates with two middle names.

You mean like George Herbert Walker Bush? :-b

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

On Nov 12, 9:49 am, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
"F. George McDuffee" wrote in messagenews:mu2hj3dobmop95hhi2fqu76lt2fgbca7oa@4ax .com...

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:37:18 -0500, Wes wrote:
snip
PS

I'm willing to take a chance on Ron Paul.
snip
From the news reports about the huge number of small donations he
is receiving, so are a lot of other people.

FWIW -- he appears to be the only actual Republican in the race.

Don't say that. He's an idiot, and I'm a Republican. g

Ron Paul is one of those semi-libertarians who sounds good until you really
listen to what he says.

This is just one small example, but he was blasting Mitt Romney and telling
him he ought to read the Constitution when Paul said, "Certainly the
drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both
replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government's
hostility to religion."

There is no reference to God, or the Creator, or anything like it in the
Constitution. Maybe Paul ought to take his own advice. After eight years, it
would be nice to have another president who actually read the Constitution.
Paul isn't among them.

--
Ed Huntress

I think that if you look just below Article VII, the Constitution
says, "in the year of our Lord"

Gus

"Gus" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Nov 12, 9:49 am, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
"F. George McDuffee" wrote in
messagenews:mu2hj3dobmop95hhi2fqu76lt2fgbca7oa@4ax .com...

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:37:18 -0500, Wes wrote:
snip
PS

I'm willing to take a chance on Ron Paul.
snip
From the news reports about the huge number of small donations he
is receiving, so are a lot of other people.

FWIW -- he appears to be the only actual Republican in the race.

Don't say that. He's an idiot, and I'm a Republican. g

Ron Paul is one of those semi-libertarians who sounds good until you
really
listen to what he says.

This is just one small example, but he was blasting Mitt Romney and
telling
him he ought to read the Constitution when Paul said, "Certainly the
drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both
replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal
government's
hostility to religion."

There is no reference to God, or the Creator, or anything like it in the
Constitution. Maybe Paul ought to take his own advice. After eight years,
it
would be nice to have another president who actually read the
Constitution.
Paul isn't among them.

--
Ed Huntress

I think that if you look just below Article VII, the Constitution
says, "in the year of our Lord"

Gus


Ha-ha! If anybody was going to find it, you would, Gus. Is that what they
call "replete"?

--
Ed Huntress