Senate wants to disarm vets.

If this bill is passed, an American would be barred from owning guns if:

* He is a U.S. veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; or

* As a kid, he was diagnosed with ADHD in connection with the IDEA program.

Not to mention the fact that an ailing grandfather could have his entire gun
collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer's from a Medicare
home health provider (and there goes the family inheritance).



Best Regards

Tom.

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:17:15 -0700, "azotic"
wrote:

Senate wants to disarm vets.

If this bill is passed, an American would be barred from owning guns if:

* He is a U.S. veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; or

* As a kid, he was diagnosed with ADHD in connection with the IDEA program.

Not to mention the fact that an ailing grandfather could have his entire gun
collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer's from a Medicare
home health provider (and there goes the family inheritance).

Best Regards

Tom.
===========
The Senate is smarter than I gave them credit for.

If I was a Senator I would not want people running around loose
with guns either, any more than if I were a deer.....


Unka' George [George McDuffee]
============
Merchants have no country.
The mere spot they stand on
does not constitute so strong an attachment
as that from which they draw their gains.

Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826),
U.S. president. Letter, 17 March 1814.

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:26:27 -0500, F. George McDuffee
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:17:15 -0700, "azotic"
wrote:

Senate wants to disarm vets.

If this bill is passed, an American would be barred from owning guns if:

* He is a U.S. veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; or

* As a kid, he was diagnosed with ADHD in connection with the IDEA program.

Not to mention the fact that an ailing grandfather could have his entire gun
collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer's from a Medicare
home health provider (and there goes the family inheritance).

Best Regards

Tom.
===========
The Senate is smarter than I gave them credit for.

If I was a Senator I would not want people running around loose
with guns either, any more than if I were a deer.....


Unka' George [George McDuffee]
============
Just wanted to share with the group the exceptionally well
written, insightful, and articulate response I received to my
above comment by email.
--------------------------

George,

You really are a ****in asshole.

Tom Miller

----- Original Message ----- From: "F. George McDuffee"

Newsgroups: rec.crafts.metalworking
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:26 PM
Subject: OT-Veterans Disarmament Act H.R. 2640


Unka' George [George McDuffee]
============
Merchants have no country.
The mere spot they stand on
does not constitute so strong an attachment
as that from which they draw their gains.

Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826),
U.S. president. Letter, 17 March 1814.

F. George McDuffee wrote:

Just wanted to share with the group the exceptionally well
written, insightful, and articulate response I received to my
above comment by email.
--------------------------

George,

You really are a ****in asshole.

Tom Miller



Golly.

Some people as just so "expressive" if they don't agree with you.

On Sep 28, 1:51 pm, F. George McDuffee gmcduf...@mcduffee-
associates.us wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:26:27 -0500, F. George McDuffee





wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:17:15 -0700, "azotic"
wrote:

Senate wants to disarm vets.

If this bill is passed, an American would be barred from owning guns if:

* He is a U.S. veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; or

* As a kid, he was diagnosed with ADHD in connection with the IDEA program.

Not to mention the fact that an ailing grandfather could have his entire gun
collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer's from a Medicare
home health provider (and there goes the family inheritance).

Best Regards

Tom.
===========
The Senate is smarter than I gave them credit for.

If I was a Senator I would not want people running around loose
with guns either, any more than if I were a deer.....

Unka' George [George McDuffee]
============

Just wanted to share with the group the exceptionally well
written, insightful, and articulate response I received to my
above comment by email.
--------------------------

George,

You really are a ****in asshole.

Tom Miller



----- Original Message ----- From: "F. George McDuffee"


Newsgroups: rec.crafts.metalworking
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:26 PM
Subject: OT-Veterans Disarmament Act H.R. 2640

Unka' George [George McDuffee]
============
Merchants have no country.
The mere spot they stand on
does not constitute so strong an attachment
as that from which they draw their gains.

Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826),
U.S. president. Letter, 17 March 1814.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

LOL...he misspelled "****in"...proof that the "No Child Left Behind"
program is definitely still needed.

Geez...you would think with "gun" starting with a "g" that he would
have gotten it right.

Remind me to make sure that spelling is included in the psych test
that the Government administers for determining whether the applicant
should own a gun..

TMT

On Sep 26, 8:17 pm, "azotic" wrote:
Senate wants to disarm vets.

If this bill is passed, an American would be barred from owning guns if:

* He is a U.S. veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; or

* As a kid, he was diagnosed with ADHD in connection with the IDEA program.

Not to mention the fact that an ailing grandfather could have his entire gun
collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer's from a Medicare
home health provider (and there goes the family inheritance).

Best Regards

Tom.

Good....I have always maintained that a psych test should be the
requirement for gun purchasing and for continued gun ownership.

If you have the right to own a gun, you also have the responsibility
to use it properly...no excuses.

If you cannot handle the responsibility, you have no right to own a
gun.

TMT..a card carrying NRA member

On Sep 26, 8:47 pm, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On Sep 26, 8:17 pm, "azotic" wrote:

Senate wants to disarm vets.

If this bill is passed, an American would be barred from owning guns if:

* He is a U.S. veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; or

* As a kid, he was diagnosed with ADHD in connection with the IDEA program.

Not to mention the fact that an ailing grandfather could have his entire gun
collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer's from a Medicare
home health provider (and there goes the family inheritance).

Best Regards

Tom.

Good....I have always maintained that a psych test should be the
requirement for gun purchasing and for continued gun ownership.

If you have the right to own a gun, you also have the responsibility
to use it properly...no excuses.

If you cannot handle the responsibility, you have no right to own a
gun.

TMT..a card carrying NRA member

Hell, lets require a psyh test for anyone living in the US as well.
Too many nutcases around with voting rights

On Sep 26, 9:00 pm, Gerry wrote:
On Sep 26, 8:47 pm, Too_Many_Tools wrote:





On Sep 26, 8:17 pm, "azotic" wrote:

Senate wants to disarm vets.

If this bill is passed, an American would be barred from owning guns if:

* He is a U.S. veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; or

* As a kid, he was diagnosed with ADHD in connection with the IDEA program.

Not to mention the fact that an ailing grandfather could have his entire gun
collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer's from a Medicare
home health provider (and there goes the family inheritance).

Best Regards

Tom.

Good....I have always maintained that a psych test should be the
requirement for gun purchasing and for continued gun ownership.

If you have the right to own a gun, you also have the responsibility
to use it properly...no excuses.

If you cannot handle the responsibility, you have no right to own a
gun.

TMT..a card carrying NRA member

Hell, lets require a psyh test for anyone living in the US as well.
Too many nutcases around with voting rights- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ever been around someone with a gun and no brains?

I have...some people have NO business having a gun.

TMT

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:16:36 -0700, Too_Many_Tools
wrote:


Hell, lets require a psyh test for anyone living in the US as well.
Too many nutcases around with voting rights- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ever been around someone with a gun and no brains?

I have...some people have NO business having a gun.

TMT


Some people have NO business with Internet Acess either.

Gunner

"Gerry" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 26, 8:47 pm, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On Sep 26, 8:17 pm, "azotic" wrote:

Senate wants to disarm vets.

If this bill is passed, an American would be barred from owning guns
if:

* He is a U.S. veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder;
or

* As a kid, he was diagnosed with ADHD in connection with the IDEA
program.

Not to mention the fact that an ailing grandfather could have his
entire gun
collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer's from a
Medicare
home health provider (and there goes the family inheritance).

Best Regards

Tom.

Good....I have always maintained that a psych test should be the
requirement for gun purchasing and for continued gun ownership.

If you have the right to own a gun, you also have the responsibility
to use it properly...no excuses.

If you cannot handle the responsibility, you have no right to own a
gun.

TMT..a card carrying NRA member

Hell, lets require a psyh test for anyone living in the US as well.
Too many nutcases around with voting rights


We could set up a federal department of gun control, every month you will
be required to undergo a series of psyh tests administrated by a member
of doctors against guns.

Best Regards
Tom.

Gerry wrote:

Hell, lets require a psyh test for anyone living in the US as well.
Too many nutcases around with voting rights

Heck, maybe we should test our politicians. It would seem like someone that
never held a job in the private sector, keeps running for new jobs and
abandons the last job he or she was elected to work in and likes to tell
people how to live their lives might have some issues.

Wes
NRA Life Member (my NRA card isn't expired)

On Sep 27, 8:01 am, Wes wrote:
Gerry wrote:
Hell, lets require a psyh test for anyone living in the US as well.
Too many nutcases around with voting rights

Heck, maybe we should test our politicians. It would seem like someone that
never held a job in the private sector, keeps running for new jobs and
abandons the last job he or she was elected to work in and likes to tell
people how to live their lives might have some issues.

Wes
NRA Life Member (my NRA card isn't expired)

LOL...sounds like a good idea.

Why don't we test the sitting President first?

And his Vice President next?

TMT

Too_Many_Tools wrote in news:1190947733.432683.273210
@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com:

LOL...sounds like a good idea.

Why don't we test the sitting President first?

And his Vice President next?

By the time the legislation passed, somebody will have those jobs...

A better solution would be to Certify all politicians as Criminally Insane... This would, of
course, mean that the gummints - at all levels - would be unable to function since there'd
be nobody to authorize the spending of any monies...

"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 26, 8:17 pm, "azotic" wrote:
Senate wants to disarm vets.

If this bill is passed, an American would be barred from owning guns if:

* He is a U.S. veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; or

* As a kid, he was diagnosed with ADHD in connection with the IDEA
program.

Not to mention the fact that an ailing grandfather could have his entire
gun
collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer's from a
Medicare
home health provider (and there goes the family inheritance).

Best Regards

Tom.

Good....I have always maintained that a psych test should be the
requirement for gun purchasing and for continued gun ownership.


Of course every school kid will now be diagnosed with ADHD as part of
hillarys
heath care scam, a school nurse will declare every kid nuts. And as a bonus
parents
with kids will have thier guns confiscated because a school nurse said so.

Best Regards
Tom.

azotic wrote:
"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 26, 8:17 pm, "azotic" wrote:
Senate wants to disarm vets.

If this bill is passed, an American would be barred from owning guns if:

* He is a U.S. veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; or

* As a kid, he was diagnosed with ADHD in connection with the IDEA
program.

Not to mention the fact that an ailing grandfather could have his entire
gun
collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer's from a
Medicare
home health provider (and there goes the family inheritance).

Best Regards

Tom.
Good....I have always maintained that a psych test should be the
requirement for gun purchasing and for continued gun ownership.


Of course every school kid will now be diagnosed with ADHD as part of
hillarys
heath care scam, a school nurse will declare every kid nuts. And as a bonus
parents
with kids will have thier guns confiscated because a school nurse said so.

Hey, while we're at it, let's take away everyone's
guns who's blood pressure is greater than 110/70.

Never know when you're going to have a stroke just
as you pull the trigger.

azotic wrote:
"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
ups.com...

On Sep 26, 8:17 pm, "azotic" wrote:

Senate wants to disarm vets.

If this bill is passed, an American would be barred from owning guns if:

* He is a U.S. veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; or

* As a kid, he was diagnosed with ADHD in connection with the IDEA
program.

Not to mention the fact that an ailing grandfather could have his entire
gun
collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer's from a
Medicare
home health provider (and there goes the family inheritance).

Best Regards

Tom.

Good....I have always maintained that a psych test should be the
requirement for gun purchasing and for continued gun ownership.



Of course every school kid will now be diagnosed with ADHD as part of
hillarys
heath care scam, a school nurse will declare every kid nuts. And as a bonus
parents
with kids will have thier guns confiscated because a school nurse said so.

Best Regards
Tom.




That's what the democraps arre aiming (pun intended) for. No guns for
the public. An armed public is a threat to power hungry and incompetent
politicians (basically all of them.)

Jim Chandler

On Sep 26, 10:53 pm, Jim Chandler wrote:
azotic wrote:
"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
oups.com...

On Sep 26, 8:17 pm, "azotic" wrote:

Senate wants to disarm vets.

If this bill is passed, an American would be barred from owning guns if:

* He is a U.S. veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; or

* As a kid, he was diagnosed with ADHD in connection with the IDEA
program.

Not to mention the fact that an ailing grandfather could have his entire
gun
collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer's from a
Medicare
home health provider (and there goes the family inheritance).

Best Regards

Tom.

Good....I have always maintained that a psych test should be the
requirement for gun purchasing and for continued gun ownership.

Of course every school kid will now be diagnosed with ADHD as part of
hillarys
heath care scam, a school nurse will declare every kid nuts. And as a bonus
parents
with kids will have thier guns confiscated because a school nurse said so.

Best Regards
Tom.

That's what the democraps arre aiming (pun intended) for. No guns for
the public. An armed public is a threat to power hungry and incompetent
politicians (basically all of them.)

Jim Chandler- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I do not believe you.

I know many Democrats who own guns...and don't shoot their friends in
the face.

Hmm....do you think Cheney would pass a psych test?

TMT

"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Sep 26, 10:53 pm, Jim Chandler wrote:
azotic wrote:
"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
oups.com...

On Sep 26, 8:17 pm, "azotic" wrote:

Senate wants to disarm vets.

If this bill is passed, an American would be barred from owning guns
if:

* He is a U.S. veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder;
or

* As a kid, he was diagnosed with ADHD in connection with the IDEA
program.

Not to mention the fact that an ailing grandfather could have his
entire
gun
collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer's from a
Medicare
home health provider (and there goes the family inheritance).

Best Regards

Tom.

Good....I have always maintained that a psych test should be the
requirement for gun purchasing and for continued gun ownership.

Of course every school kid will now be diagnosed with ADHD as part of
hillarys
heath care scam, a school nurse will declare every kid nuts. And as a
bonus
parents
with kids will have thier guns confiscated because a school nurse said
so.

Best Regards
Tom.

That's what the democraps arre aiming (pun intended) for. No guns for
the public. An armed public is a threat to power hungry and incompetent
politicians (basically all of them.)

Jim Chandler- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I do not believe you.

I know many Democrats who own guns...and don't shoot their friends in
the face.

Hmm....do you think Cheney would pass a psych test?

TMT


Remember Vince Foster, the guy who murdered him was a democrat.

Best Regards
Tom.

Jim Chandler wrote:

azotic wrote:

"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
ups.com...

On Sep 26, 8:17 pm, "azotic" wrote:

Senate wants to disarm vets.

If this bill is passed, an American would be barred from owning guns
if:

* He is a U.S. veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress
Disorder; or

* As a kid, he was diagnosed with ADHD in connection with the IDEA
program.

Not to mention the fact that an ailing grandfather could have his
entire gun
collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer's from a
Medicare
home health provider (and there goes the family inheritance).

Best Regards

Tom.


Good....I have always maintained that a psych test should be the
requirement for gun purchasing and for continued gun ownership.



Of course every school kid will now be diagnosed with ADHD as part of
hillarys
heath care scam, a school nurse will declare every kid nuts. And as a
bonus parents
with kids will have thier guns confiscated because a school nurse said
so.

Best Regards
Tom.



That's what the democraps arre aiming (pun intended) for. No guns for
the public. An armed public is a threat to power hungry and incompetent
politicians (basically all of them.)

Jim Chandler

No accusation?
No trial?
No sentence?

Just guilty as charged?
Gee, that must be real nice (for someone).

But I can't really believe that's all there is to it.

Richard

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:47:40 -0700, Too_Many_Tools
wrote:


Good....I have always maintained that a psych test should be the
requirement for gun purchasing and for continued gun ownership.

If you have the right to own a gun, you also have the responsibility
to use it properly...no excuses.

If you cannot handle the responsibility, you have no right to own a
gun.

TMT..a card carrying NRA member


So if they pull your guns, then you will also have no problem with
them also removing your first amendment rights.

In fact...given a number of your posts...its obvious you cant post
responsibly.

Good to see a Doctor can remove your Constitutional Rights at his
whim.

Gunner

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:47:40 -0700, Too_Many_Tools
wrote:


Good....I have always maintained that a psych test should be the
requirement for gun purchasing and for continued gun ownership.

If you have the right to own a gun, you also have the responsibility
to use it properly...no excuses.

If you cannot handle the responsibility, you have no right to own a
gun.

TMT..a card carrying NRA member


So if they pull your guns, then you will also have no problem with
them also removing your first amendment rights.

So, you're in favor of arming mental defectives and psychotics, eh?

--
Ed Huntress

On Sep 28, 5:45 am, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
"Gunner" wrote in message

...





On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:47:40 -0700, Too_Many_Tools
wrote:

Good....I have always maintained that a psych test should be the
requirement for gun purchasing and for continued gun ownership.

If you have the right to own a gun, you also have the responsibility
to use it properly...no excuses.

If you cannot handle the responsibility, you have no right to own a
gun.

TMT..a card carrying NRA member

So if they pull your guns, then you will also have no problem with
them also removing your first amendment rights.

So, you're in favor of arming mental defectives and psychotics, eh?

--
Ed Huntress- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes he is.

I assume that he is pro felon and pro terrorist also...in order words
any American that has a pulse should have a gun.

There is a gray area with Cheney though...pacemakers may not count.

I refer to this affliction as the Pro Gun No Brains Syndrome (PGNBS).

TMT

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:45:28 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:47:40 -0700, Too_Many_Tools
wrote:


Good....I have always maintained that a psych test should be the
requirement for gun purchasing and for continued gun ownership.

If you have the right to own a gun, you also have the responsibility
to use it properly...no excuses.

If you cannot handle the responsibility, you have no right to own a
gun.

TMT..a card carrying NRA member


So if they pull your guns, then you will also have no problem with
them also removing your first amendment rights.

So, you're in favor of arming mental defectives and psychotics, eh?

Im quite in favor of a court hearing and a judgment from them and a
panel of professionals, then a court order being the arbiter.

You evidently are in favor of having your rights removed by fiat and a
phone call, ne?

Gunner

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:45:28 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:47:40 -0700, Too_Many_Tools
wrote:


Good....I have always maintained that a psych test should be the
requirement for gun purchasing and for continued gun ownership.

If you have the right to own a gun, you also have the responsibility
to use it properly...no excuses.

If you cannot handle the responsibility, you have no right to own a
gun.

TMT..a card carrying NRA member


So if they pull your guns, then you will also have no problem with
them also removing your first amendment rights.

So, you're in favor of arming mental defectives and psychotics, eh?

Im quite in favor of a court hearing and a judgment from them and a
panel of professionals, then a court order being the arbiter.

You evidently are in favor of having your rights removed by fiat and a
phone call, ne?

What "fiat"? Someone who is "adjudicated as a mental defective," and who is
thereby restricted in some action and who objects, is going to have the
decision made by a court in every state. If they don't object, they could be
adjudicated by a board or commission. If they decide later that they object
(possibly because they don't mind being declared mentally unable to care for
themselves but who think they shouldn't be denied purchase of a gun, then
the courts have to decide what constitutes mental defect. The definitions,
as often happens, will be decided by case law. In other words, the person
will get his court hearing.

Those adjudications generally fall into three categories: criminal cases,
which are already based on a trial; control of one's estate, in which a
court makes the decision if there is an objection by the restricted person;
and confinement to a mental institution, which, in every state, requires a
court hearing if the restricted person objects.

In other words, some board or committee may declare a person mentally
incompetent, but a court has to seal the deal unless the affected person
does not object.

If you're saying that it has to go through the courts even if the person
didn't object, then you're saying that mental defectives should have guns as
long as they don't let their case go to trial. In other words, if they're
declared mentally incompetent by a state mental health board and if they
don't object to the decision.

Great logic, Gunner. It's almost as good as skipping background checks at
gun shows. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
Gunner wrote on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:32:11
-0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking :
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:45:28 -0400, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
"Gunner" wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:47:40 -0700, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
Good....I have always maintained that a psych test should be the
requirement for gun purchasing and for continued gun ownership.

If you have the right to own a gun, you also have the responsibility
to use it properly...no excuses.

If you cannot handle the responsibility, you have no right to own a
gun.

TMT..a card carrying NRA member


So if they pull your guns, then you will also have no problem with
them also removing your first amendment rights.

So, you're in favor of arming mental defectives and psychotics, eh?

Im quite in favor of a court hearing and a judgment from them and a
panel of professionals, then a court order being the arbiter.

You evidently are in favor of having your rights removed by fiat and a
phone call, ne?

I don't know about him, but I'd be all in favor of revoking his
rights, based on what I feel should be his proper behavior.

Save for that old saying about "sauce for the goose is sauce for the
gander."

toodles
pyotr
--
pyotr filipivich
"Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. "
Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD
(A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands.)

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:58:31 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner quickly quoth:

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:47:40 -0700, Too_Many_Tools
wrote:


Good....I have always maintained that a psych test should be the
requirement for gun purchasing and for continued gun ownership.

If you have the right to own a gun, you also have the responsibility
to use it properly...no excuses.

If you cannot handle the responsibility, you have no right to own a
gun.

TMT..a card carrying NRA member


So if they pull your guns, then you will also have no problem with
them also removing your first amendment rights.

In fact...given a number of your posts...its obvious you cant post
responsibly.

Good to see a Doctor can remove your Constitutional Rights at his
whim.

He's as good an NRA member as Michael Moore, who got a membership just
to be able to say he was one.

Now please stop feeding the trolls.

------------------------------
Gator: The other white meat!
------------------------------

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:58:31 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner quickly quoth:

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:47:40 -0700, Too_Many_Tools
wrote:


Good....I have always maintained that a psych test should be the
requirement for gun purchasing and for continued gun ownership.

If you have the right to own a gun, you also have the responsibility
to use it properly...no excuses.

If you cannot handle the responsibility, you have no right to own a
gun.

TMT..a card carrying NRA member


So if they pull your guns, then you will also have no problem with
them also removing your first amendment rights.

In fact...given a number of your posts...its obvious you cant post
responsibly.

Good to see a Doctor can remove your Constitutional Rights at his
whim.

He's as good an NRA member as Michael Moore, who got a membership just
to be able to say he was one.

Now please stop feeding the trolls.


But!!! But!! It is an Ex-Lax pie!


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:47:40 -0700, Too_Many_Tools
wrote:

On Sep 26, 8:17 pm, "azotic" wrote:
Senate wants to disarm vets.

If this bill is passed, an American would be barred from owning guns if:

* He is a U.S. veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; or

* As a kid, he was diagnosed with ADHD in connection with the IDEA program.

Not to mention the fact that an ailing grandfather could have his entire gun
collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer's from a Medicare
home health provider (and there goes the family inheritance).

Best Regards

Tom.

Good....I have always maintained that a psych test should be the
requirement for gun purchasing and for continued gun ownership.

If you have the right to own a gun, you also have the responsibility
to use it properly...no excuses.

If you cannot handle the responsibility, you have no right to own a
gun.

TMT..a card carrying NRA member
==========
Actually I think this should be expanded. To *VOTE* you must
qualify to own a gun.

This is not to say you must actually own one, but must pass all
the qualifications. If your mental condition, etc. is not good
enough for gun ownership, then no franchise.

It is clear that far more damage is now being done with ballots
than bullets.

Unka' George [George McDuffee]
============
Merchants have no country.
The mere spot they stand on
does not constitute so strong an attachment
as that from which they draw their gains.

Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826),
U.S. president. Letter, 17 March 1814.

F. George McDuffee wrote:

Actually I think this should be expanded. To *VOTE* you must
qualify to own a gun.

This is not to say you must actually own one, but must pass all
the qualifications. If your mental condition, etc. is not good
enough for gun ownership, then no franchise.

It is clear that far more damage is now being done with ballots
than bullets.


You nailed it!

On Sep 29, 12:26 am, F. George McDuffee gmcduf...@mcduffee-
associates.us wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:47:40 -0700, Too_Many_Tools





wrote:
On Sep 26, 8:17 pm, "azotic" wrote:
Senate wants to disarm vets.

If this bill is passed, an American would be barred from owning guns if:

* He is a U.S. veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; or

* As a kid, he was diagnosed with ADHD in connection with the IDEA program.

Not to mention the fact that an ailing grandfather could have his entire gun
collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer's from a Medicare
home health provider (and there goes the family inheritance).

Best Regards

Tom.

Good....I have always maintained that a psych test should be the
requirement for gun purchasing and for continued gun ownership.

If you have the right to own a gun, you also have the responsibility
to use it properly...no excuses.

If you cannot handle the responsibility, you have no right to own a
gun.

TMT..a card carrying NRA member

==========
Actually I think this should be expanded. To *VOTE* you must
qualify to own a gun.

This is not to say you must actually own one, but must pass all
the qualifications. If your mental condition, etc. is not good
enough for gun ownership, then no franchise.

It is clear that far more damage is now being done with ballots
than bullets.

Unka' George [George McDuffee]
============
Merchants have no country.
The mere spot they stand on
does not constitute so strong an attachment
as that from which they draw their gains.

Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826),
U.S. president. Letter, 17 March 1814.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

This is a good idea.

TMT

"azotic" wrote:

Senate wants to disarm vets.

If this bill is passed, an American would be barred from owning guns if:

* He is a U.S. veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; or

* As a kid, he was diagnosed with ADHD in connection with the IDEA program.

Not to mention the fact that an ailing grandfather could have his entire gun
collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer's from a Medicare
home health provider (and there goes the family inheritance).


http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-2640


Rep. Carolyn McCarthy [D-NY]hide cosponsors
Cosponsors [as of 2007-07-29]
Rep. Timothy Bishop [D-NY]
Rep. Frederick Boucher [D-VA]
Rep. Lois Capps [D-CA]
Rep. Michael Castle [R-DE]
Del. Donna Christensen [D-VI]
Rep. John Dingell [D-MI]
Rep. Rahm Emanuel [D-IL]
Rep. Nita Lowey [D-NY]
Rep. Dennis Moore [D-KS]
Rep. James Moran [D-VA]
Rep. William Pascrell [D-NJ]
Rep. Mike Ross [D-AR]
Rep. Janice Schakowsky [D-IL]
Rep. Christopher Shays [R-CT]
Rep. Brad Sherman [D-CA]
Rep. Lamar Smith [R-TX]
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz [D-FL]

Vote accordingly.

Wes

On Sep 26, 8:59 pm, Wes wrote:
"azotic" wrote:
Senate wants to disarm vets.

If this bill is passed, an American would be barred from owning guns if:

* He is a U.S. veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; or

* As a kid, he was diagnosed with ADHD in connection with the IDEA program.

Not to mention the fact that an ailing grandfather could have his entire gun
collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer's from a Medicare
home health provider (and there goes the family inheritance).

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-2640

Rep. Carolyn McCarthy [D-NY]hide cosponsors
Cosponsors [as of 2007-07-29]
Rep. Timothy Bishop [D-NY]
Rep. Frederick Boucher [D-VA]
Rep. Lois Capps [D-CA]
Rep. Michael Castle [R-DE]
Del. Donna Christensen [D-VI]
Rep. John Dingell [D-MI]
Rep. Rahm Emanuel [D-IL]
Rep. Nita Lowey [D-NY]
Rep. Dennis Moore [D-KS]
Rep. James Moran [D-VA]
Rep. William Pascrell [D-NJ]
Rep. Mike Ross [D-AR]
Rep. Janice Schakowsky [D-IL]
Rep. Christopher Shays [R-CT]
Rep. Brad Sherman [D-CA]
Rep. Lamar Smith [R-TX]
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz [D-FL]

Vote accordingly.

Wes

Reelect them?

TMT

Too_Many_Tools wrote:
(snip)
Reelect them?

TMT

Ah yes, an NRA member posting in a newsgroup. Clearly a sign of
derangement. You need to turn in all your guns immediately before we have
to send out the police to collect them. Hurry up now.

Todd Rich wrote:

Too_Many_Tools wrote:
(snip)
Reelect them?

TMT

Ah yes, an NRA member posting in a newsgroup. Clearly a sign of
derangement. You need to turn in all your guns immediately before we have
to send out the police to collect them. Hurry up now.


If you want people's guns, go knocking on doors for yourself.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

On Sep 27, 5:20 am, Todd Rich wrote:
Too_Many_Tools wrote:

(snip)

Reelect them?
TMT

Ah yes, an NRA member posting in a newsgroup. Clearly a sign of
derangement. You need to turn in all your guns immediately before we have
to send out the police to collect them. Hurry up now.

I know..I know...one would think that a NRA member would not be able
to spell.

I even know how to vote .... Republican or Democrat.

TMT

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:15:25 -0700, Too_Many_Tools
wrote:

On Sep 26, 8:59 pm, Wes wrote:
"azotic" wrote:
Senate wants to disarm vets.

If this bill is passed, an American would be barred from owning guns if:

* He is a U.S. veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; or

* As a kid, he was diagnosed with ADHD in connection with the IDEA program.

Not to mention the fact that an ailing grandfather could have his entire gun
collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer's from a Medicare
home health provider (and there goes the family inheritance).

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-2640

Rep. Carolyn McCarthy [D-NY]hide cosponsors
Cosponsors [as of 2007-07-29]
Rep. Timothy Bishop [D-NY]
Rep. Frederick Boucher [D-VA]
Rep. Lois Capps [D-CA]
Rep. Michael Castle [R-DE]
Del. Donna Christensen [D-VI]
Rep. John Dingell [D-MI]
Rep. Rahm Emanuel [D-IL]
Rep. Nita Lowey [D-NY]
Rep. Dennis Moore [D-KS]
Rep. James Moran [D-VA]
Rep. William Pascrell [D-NJ]
Rep. Mike Ross [D-AR]
Rep. Janice Schakowsky [D-IL]
Rep. Christopher Shays [R-CT]
Rep. Brad Sherman [D-CA]
Rep. Lamar Smith [R-TX]
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz [D-FL]

Vote accordingly.

Wes

Reelect them?

TMT

Got Rope?

Gunner

Gunner wrote:

Got Rope?

Got chain, might be messy but these things tend to be.

"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Sep 26, 8:59 pm, Wes wrote:
"azotic" wrote:
Senate wants to disarm vets.

If this bill is passed, an American would be barred from owning guns if:

* He is a U.S. veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; or

* As a kid, he was diagnosed with ADHD in connection with the IDEA
program.

Not to mention the fact that an ailing grandfather could have his entire
gun
collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer's from a
Medicare
home health provider (and there goes the family inheritance).

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-2640

Rep. Carolyn McCarthy [D-NY]hide cosponsors
Cosponsors [as of 2007-07-29]
Rep. Timothy Bishop [D-NY]
Rep. Frederick Boucher [D-VA]
Rep. Lois Capps [D-CA]
Rep. Michael Castle [R-DE]
Del. Donna Christensen [D-VI]
Rep. John Dingell [D-MI]
Rep. Rahm Emanuel [D-IL]
Rep. Nita Lowey [D-NY]
Rep. Dennis Moore [D-KS]
Rep. James Moran [D-VA]
Rep. William Pascrell [D-NJ]
Rep. Mike Ross [D-AR]
Rep. Janice Schakowsky [D-IL]
Rep. Christopher Shays [R-CT]
Rep. Brad Sherman [D-CA]
Rep. Lamar Smith [R-TX]
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz [D-FL]

Vote accordingly.

Wes

Reelect them?

If you actually read the bill, two things stand out: First, Tom's comments
are not based on anything in the bill, but must be from some neurotic freak
at one of the over-the-top gun nutz sites. Second, the tone of the bill and
all of its caveats makes it look like it was written by the NRA/ILA.

Then when you read the sanguine comments about the bill at the NRA site you
realize that in fact they probably did have a decisive hand in writing the
bill. That's what lobbies do, after all.

--
Ed Huntress

In article , "Ed Huntress" wrote:

If you actually read the bill, two things stand out: First, Tom's comments
are not based on anything in the bill, but must be from some neurotic freak
at one of the over-the-top gun nutz sites. Second, the tone of the bill and
all of its caveats makes it look like it was written by the NRA/ILA.

Then when you read the sanguine comments about the bill at the NRA site you
realize that in fact they probably did have a decisive hand in writing the
bill. That's what lobbies do, after all.

Third, seeing John Dingell and Lamar Smith signed up as cosponsors should have
been a signal that, from a gun-rights standpoint, the bill couldn't possibly
all *that* bad...

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
...
In article , "Ed Huntress"
wrote:

If you actually read the bill, two things stand out: First, Tom's comments
are not based on anything in the bill, but must be from some neurotic
freak
at one of the over-the-top gun nutz sites. Second, the tone of the bill
and
all of its caveats makes it look like it was written by the NRA/ILA.

Then when you read the sanguine comments about the bill at the NRA site
you
realize that in fact they probably did have a decisive hand in writing the
bill. That's what lobbies do, after all.

Third, seeing John Dingell and Lamar Smith signed up as cosponsors should
have
been a signal that, from a gun-rights standpoint, the bill couldn't
possibly
all *that* bad...

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

Aha! Dingell apparently is the link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...041902437.html

And there's the hand of the NRA, as I suspected. They don't say that a
gun-related bill "restores rights" unless they wrote it themselves. g

Also, there is a hint in that article that GOA may be the source of the
neurotic freak who wrote the nonsense that started this thread.

--
Ed Huntress