OK..... thought experiment

You are looking at buying a river camp.

Camp itself is pretty rough on side but structure is
sound

Instead of doing the usual remodeling inside....adding
more wire runs.... lights ...etc

What abt building internal 'skeleton" INSIDE the room
such that you could hang lights form it..... hang
suspended porch swings...... basically anything you'd
like

Can this be done?

If yes.... what could one use for the "skeleton" that
was strong enough to support weight but also easily
disassembled and moved in case of flood?

I'm posting here cause someone told me this newsgroup
might be able to suggest ideas?

Threaded plumbing and fittings: T's, elbows, etc. 1/2" or less for
lighting, 1" + for load bearing stuff.
Gets pricey after a while, tho.
Man, did I cry when I realized what that pipe rack made out of plumbing
fittings really cost me.... wow....
If you had a welder, you could limit the plumbing to dis-assemble-able
portions, and weld the rest in much cheaper tubing, w/ minimal fittings.

Might could do w/ aircraft/steel cable/turnbuckles for the lighting, iffin
you had solid supports to attach to.
--
Mr. P.V.'d
formerly Droll Troll
wrote in message
...
OK..... thought experiment

You are looking at buying a river camp.

Camp itself is pretty rough on side but structure is
sound

Instead of doing the usual remodeling inside....adding
more wire runs.... lights ...etc

What abt building internal 'skeleton" INSIDE the room
such that you could hang lights form it..... hang
suspended porch swings...... basically anything you'd
like

Can this be done?

If yes.... what could one use for the "skeleton" that
was strong enough to support weight but also easily
disassembled and moved in case of flood?

I'm posting here cause someone told me this newsgroup
might be able to suggest ideas?

"Proctologically Violated©®"
wrote:

Might could do w/ aircraft/steel cable/turnbuckles for the lighting, iffin
you had solid supports to attach to.

Yep.... good idea

Then I could move everything real easy huh

How about using steel studs like they use in commercial buildouts these
days? They're mass produced from folded sheet steel so they're cheap,
they pin together and they already have the holes for wiring runs in
them. Build the internal frame, get everything working and then, if you
get tired of the industrial look, you can put up drywall on the inside
where you want / need it.

Jim

Jim McGill wrote:

How about using steel studs like they use in commercial buildouts these
days? They're mass produced from folded sheet steel so they're cheap,
they pin together and they already have the holes for wiring runs in
them. Build the internal frame, get everything working and then, if you
get tired of the industrial look, you can put up drywall on the inside
where you want / need it.

Jim


Good idea!

Again.... this is just a thought experiment at the
moment

It may be something I think abt using for doing a
business in an older building tho

Jim McGill wrote:

How about using steel studs like they use in commercial buildouts these
days? They're mass produced from folded sheet steel so they're cheap,
they pin together and they already have the holes for wiring runs in
them. B

They are fairly light as well, correct?

One man could handle them?

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:58:37 -0500, wrote:
Jim McGill wrote:

How about using steel studs like they use in commercial buildouts these
days? They're mass produced from folded sheet steel so they're cheap,
they pin together and they already have the holes for wiring runs in
them. B

They are fairly light as well, correct?
One man could handle them?

Extremely light, and not a lot of resistance to twisting. They need to
be in a fairly well self-supporting system to be structural. I'd go
with the pipe system idea myself.

Dave Hinz wrote:

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:58:37 -0500, wrote:
Jim McGill wrote:

How about using steel studs like they use in commercial buildouts these
days? They're mass produced from folded sheet steel so they're cheap,
they pin together and they already have the holes for wiring runs in
them. B

They are fairly light as well, correct?
One man could handle them?

Extremely light, and not a lot of resistance to twisting. They need to
be in a fairly well self-supporting system to be structural. I'd go
with the pipe system idea myself.

I built the walls in my hangar with steel studs.

The screws can be a bit of a challenge to start - at first -
because the flanges flex a bit under pressure.

There are two "sizes" - thickness of metal - interior
and exterior.

But it's the sweetest setup for working alone.

If you want to do wall "sections", lay them out on the
floor where a ladder isn't necessary.

Then stick the sections together as desired...

Someday I hope I'll build my new house this way.

Steel shell, steel roof, steel stud interior for dry wall,
stone, steel and and glass exterior.

In article ,
Richard Lamb wrote:

Dave Hinz wrote:

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:58:37 -0500, wrote:
Jim McGill wrote:

How about using steel studs like they use in commercial buildouts these
days? They're mass produced from folded sheet steel so they're cheap,
they pin together and they already have the holes for wiring runs in
them. B

They are fairly light as well, correct?
One man could handle them?

Extremely light, and not a lot of resistance to twisting. They need to
be in a fairly well self-supporting system to be structural. I'd go
with the pipe system idea myself.

I built the walls in my hangar with steel studs.

The screws can be a bit of a challenge to start - at first -
because the flanges flex a bit under pressure.

There are two "sizes" - thickness of metal - interior
and exterior.

But it's the sweetest setup for working alone.

If you want to do wall "sections", lay them out on the
floor where a ladder isn't necessary.

Then stick the sections together as desired...

Someday I hope I'll build my new house this way.

A friend has this. The problem is that it's hard to attach anything
heavy to a wall if it wasn't planned for from the start, because sheet
metal screws just don't compare to a #14 screw into a wooden stud.

Joe Gwinn

Steel shell, steel roof, steel stud interior for dry wall,
stone, steel and and glass exterior.

Dave Hinz wrote:

Extremely light, and not a lot of resistance to twisting.

But what if you construct a "box" with them? A box
big enough to create a skeleton just inside the room

Wont spreading the stress over the structure work?