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A C-5 crashed near Dover AFB...looks fixable to me but, will it be parted
out and scraped? I'll bet the seatcovers are a lost cause. |
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Tom Gardner wrote:
A C-5 crashed near Dover AFB...looks fixable to me but, will it be parted out and scraped? I'll bet the seatcovers are a lost cause. any pictures? otherwise why did you post this? Michelle |
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![]() "Michelle" wrote in message . net... Tom Gardner wrote: A C-5 crashed near Dover AFB...looks fixable to me but, will it be parted out and scraped? I'll bet the seatcovers are a lost cause. any pictures? otherwise why did you post this? Michelle Turn on your TV...it's everywhere, except the cartoon chanel. |
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Tom Gardner wrote:
"Michelle" wrote in message . net... Tom Gardner wrote: A C-5 crashed near Dover AFB...looks fixable to me but, will it be parted out and scraped? I'll bet the seatcovers are a lost cause. any pictures? otherwise why did you post this? Michelle Turn on your TV...it's everywhere, except the cartoon chanel. You cold have said that the first time. Looks like getting out was not a problem. Michelle |
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Saw a pic on Fox, the front quarter is snapped off and laying at right
angle to the rest. Wings are still attached, some fire on the ground behind the inboard right engine, but not big. Looks like a puddle of fuel. Just on Fox again. They had mechanical trouble and were coming back to land. Went in a couple hundred yards short of the runway in a field. All fires are out. Michelle wrote: Tom Gardner wrote: A C-5 crashed near Dover AFB...looks fixable to me but, will it be parted out and scraped? I'll bet the seatcovers are a lost cause. any pictures? otherwise why did you post this? Michelle |
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Saw the same - one wing had the foam all flat - which means the press
were kept well away just in case. I heard the crew for the most part (wondered what that meant) got out easily - some had fuel spilled upon them. With a fire in an engine and a wing full of fuel - they did good getting back to the base and on the grass. I lost a good friend in the first C5 crash - he was the co-pilot and was back on the rear gate that would not close during the emergency takeoff. Big planes don't have many crashes - but make the news when they do. It was a time that the Air force or other armed forces would have a mishap once or twice a year. Not in a long time. Martin Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH & Endowment Member NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member Louis Ohland wrote: Saw a pic on Fox, the front quarter is snapped off and laying at right angle to the rest. Wings are still attached, some fire on the ground behind the inboard right engine, but not big. Looks like a puddle of fuel. Just on Fox again. They had mechanical trouble and were coming back to land. Went in a couple hundred yards short of the runway in a field. All fires are out. Michelle wrote: Tom Gardner wrote: A C-5 crashed near Dover AFB...looks fixable to me but, will it be parted out and scraped? I'll bet the seatcovers are a lost cause. any pictures? otherwise why did you post this? Michelle ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Video and still pics at
www.cnn.com It's unlikely that the plane will be rebuilt. The C-5 is so big that is fairly spindly, it doesn't take kindly to being thrashed like this. But almost any aircraft can be rebuilt/reworked if you spend enough $$ on it. Michelle wrote: Tom Gardner wrote: A C-5 crashed near Dover AFB...looks fixable to me but, will it be parted out and scraped? I'll bet the seatcovers are a lost cause. any pictures? otherwise why did you post this? Michelle |
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On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 14:40:30 GMT, RoyJ wrote:
Video and still pics at www.cnn.com It's unlikely that the plane will be rebuilt. The C-5 is so big that is fairly spindly, it doesn't take kindly to being thrashed like this. But almost any aircraft can be rebuilt/reworked if you spend enough $$ on it. Doncha just have to jack up the exhaust and slide a new plane in place of the old one? ERS Michelle wrote: Tom Gardner wrote: A C-5 crashed near Dover AFB...looks fixable to me but, will it be parted out and scraped? I'll bet the seatcovers are a lost cause. any pictures? otherwise why did you post this? Michelle |
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Tom Gardner wrote:
A C-5 crashed near Dover AFB...looks fixable to me but, will it be parted out and scraped? I'll bet the seatcovers are a lost cause. If they still can find the name tag (serial number etc.) then its fixable. It might be cheaper to buy a new one however. Bill k7NOM |
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"Bill Janssen" wrote in message
... | Tom Gardner wrote: | | A C-5 crashed near Dover AFB...looks fixable to me but, will it be parted | out and scraped? I'll bet the seatcovers are a lost cause. | | | | | If they still can find the name tag (serial number etc.) then its | fixable. It might be cheaper to | buy a new one however. | | Bill k7NOM That model went out of production awhile back (I tried to make that funny, but it wasn't working.) I'm sure what's left of it will be worthwhile as spare parts, as they've been flying the hell out of them lately. Really major jobs like that are unlikely, as I'm sure the jigs and such have all been scrapped. Boeing has done work similar in scale to that, but only because they were still building that model and were able to provide huge sections of airplane brand new to replace the smashed up bits. Lockheed got out of the airplane building business, thankfully, so that possibility is pretty much nil. |
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carl mciver wrote:
Lockheed got out of the airplane building business, thankfully, so that possibility is pretty much nil. That's news to me and the other 50,000+ employees at Lockheed as we deliver more F-16's, some F/A-22's, and C-130J's every month... :} Craig C. |
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Exactly, Lockheed is far from being out of the aircraft business.
A lot of the C5-A's have wing spar problems, been that way for years, but it still did not hinder their flight worthyness, in regards to safety. All it did was limit max load capacity they could carry....... On 3 Apr 2006 23:51:58 -0700, wrote: carl mciver wrote: Lockheed got out of the airplane building business, thankfully, so that possibility is pretty much nil. That's news to me and the other 50,000+ employees at Lockheed as we deliver more F-16's, some F/A-22's, and C-130J's every month... :} Craig C. -- \\\|/// ( @ @ ) -----------oOOo(_)oOOo--------------- oooO ---------( )----Oooo---------------- \ ( ( ) \_) ) / (_/ The original frugal ponder ! Koi-ahoi mates.... |
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wrote in message
oups.com... | carl mciver wrote: | | | Lockheed got out of the airplane building business, thankfully, so that | possibility is pretty much nil. | | | That's news to me and the other 50,000+ employees at Lockheed as we | deliver more F-16's, some F/A-22's, and C-130J's every month... :} | | Craig C. I'm sorry, I misspoke. I should have said large aircraft. I knew better, my bad. It looks like I'll be competing with you for the tanker.... |
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![]() "carl mciver" wrote in message hlink.net... "Bill Janssen" wrote in message ... | Tom Gardner wrote: | | A C-5 crashed near Dover AFB...looks fixable to me but, will it be parted | out and scraped? I'll bet the seatcovers are a lost cause. | | | | | If they still can find the name tag (serial number etc.) then its | fixable. It might be cheaper to | buy a new one however. | | Bill k7NOM That model went out of production awhile back (I tried to make that funny, but it wasn't working.) I'm sure what's left of it will be worthwhile as spare parts, as they've been flying the hell out of them lately. Really major jobs like that are unlikely, as I'm sure the jigs and such have all been scrapped. Boeing has done work similar in scale to that, but only because they were still building that model and were able to provide huge sections of airplane brand new to replace the smashed up bits. Lockheed got out of the airplane building business, thankfully, so that possibility is pretty much nil. Lockheed taught Boeing how to build big aircraft........Just like Dehavilland taught them how to make the 727and BAC taught Douglas how to make the DC9.... |
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mike hide wrote:
"carl mciver" wrote in message hlink.net... "Bill Janssen" wrote in message ... | Tom Gardner wrote: | | A C-5 crashed near Dover AFB...looks fixable to me but, will it be parted | out and scraped? I'll bet the seatcovers are a lost cause. | | | | | If they still can find the name tag (serial number etc.) then its | fixable. It might be cheaper to | buy a new one however. | | Bill k7NOM That model went out of production awhile back (I tried to make that funny, but it wasn't working.) I'm sure what's left of it will be worthwhile as spare parts, as they've been flying the hell out of them lately. Really major jobs like that are unlikely, as I'm sure the jigs and such have all been scrapped. Boeing has done work similar in scale to that, but only because they were still building that model and were able to provide huge sections of airplane brand new to replace the smashed up bits. Lockheed got out of the airplane building business, thankfully, so that possibility is pretty much nil. Lockheed taught Boeing how to build big aircraft........Just like Dehavilland taught them how to make the 727and BAC taught Douglas how to make the DC9.... Ok, I'll bite.. Did Boeing teach Airbus anything? |
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![]() Tom Gardner wrote: A C-5 crashed near Dover AFB...looks fixable to me but, will it be parted out and scraped? I'll bet the seatcovers are a lost cause. "I think that'll buff right out" |
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Rex B wrote: Tom Gardner wrote: A C-5 crashed near Dover AFB...looks fixable to me but, will it be parted out and scraped? I'll bet the seatcovers are a lost cause. "I think that'll buff right out" Might need a bit of bondo. (: -- B.B. --I am not a goat! thegoat4 at airmail dot net |
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On 03/04/06 12:50 PM, B.B. wrote:
In article , Rex B wrote: Tom Gardner wrote: A C-5 crashed near Dover AFB...looks fixable to me but, will it be parted out and scraped? I'll bet the seatcovers are a lost cause. "I think that'll buff right out" Might need a bit of bondo. (: I always thought the C-5 opened vertically at the front not sideways like a WWII glider. Guess I was wrong. -- Larry Green |
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Need one of those dent pullers and some Wisconsin chrome.
"Duct tape, the handyman's secret weapon" Larry Green wrote: On 03/04/06 12:50 PM, B.B. wrote: In article , Rex B wrote: Tom Gardner wrote: A C-5 crashed near Dover AFB...looks fixable to me but, will it be parted out and scraped? I'll bet the seatcovers are a lost cause. "I think that'll buff right out" Might need a bit of bondo. (: I always thought the C-5 opened vertically at the front not sideways like a WWII glider. Guess I was wrong. |
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wrote: Need one of those dent pullers and some Wisconsin chrome. "Duct tape, the handyman's secret weapon" Nothing says 'quality' like wrinkle free duct tape! Erik |
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That's a new regionalism on me. So what is "Wisconsin chrome"? Aluminum
paint? Jim |
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On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 13:20:00 -0400, Larry Green
wrote: On 03/04/06 12:50 PM, B.B. wrote: In article , Rex B wrote: Tom Gardner wrote: A C-5 crashed near Dover AFB...looks fixable to me but, will it be parted out and scraped? I'll bet the seatcovers are a lost cause. "I think that'll buff right out" Might need a bit of bondo. (: I always thought the C-5 opened vertically at the front not sideways like a WWII glider. Guess I was wrong. Gonna be a bitch unloading the cargo. How ya gonna get a forklift in there? I guess they could call a battalion of Marines and do it manually Gunner "A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences." - Proverbs 22:3 |
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![]() "Gunner" wrote in message ... On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 13:20:00 -0400, Larry Green wrote: On 03/04/06 12:50 PM, B.B. wrote: In article , Rex B wrote: Tom Gardner wrote: A C-5 crashed near Dover AFB...looks fixable to me but, will it be parted out and scraped? I'll bet the seatcovers are a lost cause. "I think that'll buff right out" Might need a bit of bondo. (: I always thought the C-5 opened vertically at the front not sideways like a WWII glider. Guess I was wrong. Gonna be a bitch unloading the cargo. How ya gonna get a forklift in there? I guess they could call a battalion of Marines and do it manually Gunner That's not too far from Aberdeen Proving Grounds. They could bring up some M1 tanks and drag the stuff out. Steve. |
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Just sled it over to the runway. Or put down temp runway like in the war.
Easy for fork lifts. Use monster Hysters. Like on the docs. Martin Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH & Endowment Member NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member Gunner wrote: On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 13:20:00 -0400, Larry Green wrote: On 03/04/06 12:50 PM, B.B. wrote: In article , Rex B wrote: Tom Gardner wrote: A C-5 crashed near Dover AFB...looks fixable to me but, will it be parted out and scraped? I'll bet the seatcovers are a lost cause. "I think that'll buff right out" Might need a bit of bondo. (: I always thought the C-5 opened vertically at the front not sideways like a WWII glider. Guess I was wrong. Gonna be a bitch unloading the cargo. How ya gonna get a forklift in there? I guess they could call a battalion of Marines and do it manually Gunner "A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences." - Proverbs 22:3 ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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