The clearance ad says "Visible rust, needs cleaning but will not affect
function of machine." Mine came today and I pulled the top off the crate
expceting the worst. The only rust I can locate is on the metal banding
holding the crate together and the nails in the crate. The machine looks
fine. Now to tear it apart and rebuild it into something that functions.

It's their item 54427-0VGA

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=54427
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Also, this machine is seriously top-heavy. Bolt it down
securely.
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Rich Osman wrote:

The clearance ad says "Visible rust, needs cleaning but will not affect
function of machine." Mine came today and I pulled the top off the crate
expceting the worst. The only rust I can locate is on the metal banding
holding the crate together and the nails in the crate. The machine looks
fine. Now to tear it apart and rebuild it into something that functions.

It's their item 54427-0VGA

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=54427
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:40:00 -0600, Rich Osman wrote:

The clearance ad says "Visible rust, needs cleaning but will not affect
function of machine." Mine came today and I pulled the top off the crate
expceting the worst. The only rust I can locate is on the metal banding
holding the crate together and the nails in the crate. The machine looks
fine. Now to tear it apart and rebuild it into something that functions.

It's their item 54427-0VGA

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=54427

Shrug..Ive got the grey version. Came from a shop that went over to
Pexto as their needs increased. Works fine for me from the git go.

Considering how ham handed the guys in that shop were, I know they
didnt spend any time fixing it up.

Gunner


"This device is provided without warranty of any kind as to reliability,
accuracy, existence or otherwise or fitness for any particular purpose
and Bioalchemic Products specifically does not warrant, guarantee,
imply or make any representations as to its merchantability for any
particular purpose and furthermore shall have no liability for or
responsibility to you or any other person, entity or deity with respect
to any loss or damage whatsoever caused by this device or object or by
any attempts to destroy it by hammering it against a wall or dropping it
into a deep well or any other means whatsoever and moreover asserts
that you indicate your acceptance of this agreement or any other
agreement that may he substituted at any time by coming within
five miles of the product or observing it through large telescopes or
by any other means because you are such an easily cowed moron
who will happily accept arrogant and unilateral conditions on a piece
of highly priced garbage that you would not dream of accepting on a
bag of dog biscuits and is used solely at your own risk.'

Gunner wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:40:00 -0600, Rich Osman wrote:


The clearance ad says "Visible rust, needs cleaning but will not affect
function of machine." Mine came today and I pulled the top off the crate
expceting the worst. The only rust I can locate is on the metal banding
holding the crate together and the nails in the crate. The machine looks
fine. Now to tear it apart and rebuild it into something that functions.

It's their item 54427-0VGA

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=54427


Shrug..Ive got the grey version. Came from a shop that went over to
Pexto as their needs increased. Works fine for me from the git go.

Considering how ham handed the guys in that shop were, I know they
didnt spend any time fixing it up.

Gunner

I'm just accustomed to anything in HF class of tool requiring dissembly,
at the very least cleaning (chips out to of the bearings) and rewiring
if it's electrical. This one's grey, too.

Now to find a notcher cheap.

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Rich Osman writes:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=54427

This same item in the retail stores appears to have a different number:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=5907

I couldn't see any difference in the two, except that the "sale price" at
the retail stores for the latter is now $280 (regularly $400). I took a
printout of the $199 Web page for the 54427 to the local store today, and
the manager sold me a 05907 for $199.

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:40:00 -0600, Rich Osman wrote:
The clearance ad says "Visible rust, needs cleaning but will not affect
function of machine." Mine came today and I pulled the top off the crate
expceting the worst. The only rust I can locate is on the metal banding
holding the crate together and the nails in the crate. The machine looks
fine. Now to tear it apart and rebuild it into something that functions.

It's their item 54427-0VGA

I've been kicking around the idea of buying one of these for quite a while.
$100 off the regular price was the final nudge. I ordered one, hope it is
as rust free as yours when it arrives (sometime in July, I expect, given
HFs usual speedy shipping to this location).

Gary

Took them 4 days to get mine here. I was amazed. And it's 199 vs 399,
so that's more like 200 off, right?

Gary Coffman wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:40:00 -0600, Rich Osman wrote:

The clearance ad says "Visible rust, needs cleaning but will not affect
function of machine." Mine came today and I pulled the top off the crate
expceting the worst. The only rust I can locate is on the metal banding
holding the crate together and the nails in the crate. The machine looks
fine. Now to tear it apart and rebuild it into something that functions.

It's their item 54427-0VGA


I've been kicking around the idea of buying one of these for quite a while.
$100 off the regular price was the final nudge. I ordered one, hope it is
as rust free as yours when it arrives (sometime in July, I expect, given
HFs usual speedy shipping to this location).

Gary

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Rich Osman writes:

Took them 4 days to get mine here. I was amazed. And it's 199 vs 399,
so that's more like 200 off, right?

Regularly $400, but $270 on sale at the retail stores now, seems like they
have also had it for $240 on occasion in the past.

Is the free freight deal still on?

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 05:20:15 -0600, Rich Osman wrote:

|Took them 4 days to get mine here. I was amazed. And it's 199 vs 399,
|so that's more like 200 off, right?
|
|Gary Coffman wrote:
| On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:40:00 -0600, Rich Osman wrote:
|
|The clearance ad says "Visible rust, needs cleaning but will not affect
|function of machine." Mine came today and I pulled the top off the crate
|expceting the worst. The only rust I can locate is on the metal banding
|holding the crate together and the nails in the crate. The machine looks
|fine. Now to tear it apart and rebuild it into something that functions.
|
|It's their item 54427-0VGA
|
|
| I've been kicking around the idea of buying one of these for quite a while.
| $100 off the regular price was the final nudge. I ordered one, hope it is
| as rust free as yours when it arrives (sometime in July, I expect, given
| HFs usual speedy shipping to this location).
|
| Gary
|
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Is the free freight deal still on?


Yes!

That, plus the $200 off, sealed this deal for me.

You'll pay tax, if applicable, plus a $5.95 handling charge, however, so in
California the total is a little over $220, delivered.

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 05:20:15 -0600, Rich Osman wrote:
Took them 4 days to get mine here. I was amazed. And it's 199 vs 399,
so that's more like 200 off, right?

Sale flyer price is usually $299. Sometimes there's a 10% discount on
that.

Gary

"Peter H." wrote in message
...


Is the free freight deal still on?


Yes!

That, plus the $200 off, sealed this deal for me.

You'll pay tax, if applicable, plus a $5.95 handling charge, however, so
in
California the total is a little over $220, delivered.


Dumb question from a neophyte:

What a really need is a box and pan brake, but from what I see in the
pictures, it doesn't appear that it has individual "fingers", but only one
long bending surface. Am I correct? If so, am I correct that you really
can't do "complex" bends with it?

"Ken Finney" wrote in message
...

"Peter H." wrote in message
...


Is the free freight deal still on?


Yes!

That, plus the $200 off, sealed this deal for me.

You'll pay tax, if applicable, plus a $5.95 handling charge, however, so
in
California the total is a little over $220, delivered.


Dumb question from a neophyte:

What a really need is a box and pan brake, but from what I see in the
pictures, it doesn't appear that it has individual "fingers", but only one
long bending surface. Am I correct? If so, am I correct that you really
can't do "complex" bends with it?

If you look at the right side of the blade you can see the lines which form
the individual fingers. The first section is all the way from the left, to
just under the label. Then there are different sized short pieces.

It's spec'ed for 30" of 20 ga (max). Dos anybody have a feel for what
that means for heavier gauge? E.g., how big/wide of a piece of 18 ga
would it shear and/or bend? 16? Bob

Bob Engelhardt wrote:

It's spec'ed for 30" of 20 ga (max). Dos anybody have a feel for what
that means for heavier gauge? E.g., how big/wide of a piece of 18 ga
would it shear and/or bend? 16? Bob


When I checked the sale item I found that you have to have a
"certificate number".
How do I get that?.

Bill K7NOM

When I checked the sale item I found that you have to have a "certificate
number". How do I get that?.


On the back of you catalog.

It's only to qualify for the "free gift", which is usually a non-working watch,
or similarly useless stuff.

It is not necessary to buy the item.

It's spec'ed for 30" of 20 ga (max). Dos anybody have a feel for what
that means for heavier gauge? E.g., how big/wide of a piece of 18 ga
would it shear and/or bend? 16? Bob

I recently bought the 40" version and it's rated at 18 gauge. The shear
blade is slanted so that it "slices" across the metal sort of like scissors
or tin snips closing. In other words, the width won't really make much
difference as far as the shear is concerned. For the brake it will probably
do thicker at less width but I haven't tried it yet.

Best Regards,
Keith Marshall


"I'm not grown up enough to be so old!"

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 08:41:43 -0500, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
It's spec'ed for 30" of 20 ga (max). Dos anybody have a feel for what
that means for heavier gauge? E.g., how big/wide of a piece of 18 ga
would it shear and/or bend? 16? Bob

Shear blades are angled, so they only engage a small amount of the
material being cut at any given instant. Thus the width of the piece
being cut doesn't affect how thick a piece it can cut.

The forces required by the brake to bend a piece do depend on
the width of the piece. So I'd expect you could bend a somewhat
thicker piece if it isn't full width. I'd proceed cautiously, though.
The limit might be in the fingers, or the piece holding them. Since
an individual finger doesn't extend full width, it will see the same
force when bending any given piece equal to or greater than its
own width.

Mine hasn't arrived yet, of course, but when it does I'm not going
to force it. At least I'm not until I get a feel for how stressed it
actually is when making a bend. It is, after all, only a 300 pound
$200 machine. You can't expect it to do the work of a heavy
industrial machine.

I did buy it with the idea of mostly cutting and forming aluminum.
I do expect it can handle a thicker piece of aluminum than it can
steel. But even so, I doubt it'll be happy shearing 11 gauge
aluminum rack panels. Not gonna force it, wouldn't be prudent.

Gary

Hi,

I have been following this thread with interest.

Years ago I REALLY wanted sheet metal capability in my shop. I looked
and studied and talked to alot of people about what options were
available to the home shop. I also repeatily looked at the 30" 3in1
combination machine. The wiser heads of this discussion group
continued to say that even though the Pexto/Diacro route was more
expensive and would take up more space, that these machines are built
for the long haul and are well worth the money. As I continued to
review my options, I started noticing that those who had the Asian
combination machines were either trying to sell them or had broken the
tables using them. Well, it took me awhile to take the hint but I
decided that I would rather buy the machine once instead of twice. I
went the used Diacro route and have never been happier.

I also want to thank the group for saving me from making a rather
expensive mistake.

While I think the Asian combination machine has its place, be sure
that you will be satisfied with the limitations of guage thickness
before you buy it. Over the last five years, I have seen seven of the
combination machines with broken tables. Also realize that you will
need to do the regular cleanup and mods that Asian machines require. I
believe that a contributor to this group has a very good writeup as to
what he had to do to bring an "Asian Wonder" up to his standards.

You also might want to ask yourself why Harbor Freight is closing
these machines out. More than once in the past, I have found that I
would rather have the new machine with more features/capacity that is
replacing the "closeout special".

Good luck with whatever choice you pursue,

TMT






"Keith Marshall" wrote in message .com...
It's spec'ed for 30" of 20 ga (max). Dos anybody have a feel for what
that means for heavier gauge? E.g., how big/wide of a piece of 18 ga
would it shear and/or bend? 16? Bob

I recently bought the 40" version and it's rated at 18 gauge. The shear
blade is slanted so that it "slices" across the metal sort of like scissors
or tin snips closing. In other words, the width won't really make much
difference as far as the shear is concerned. For the brake it will probably
do thicker at less width but I haven't tried it yet.

Best Regards,
Keith Marshall


"I'm not grown up enough to be so old!"

On 31 Jan 2004 18:27:17 GMT, inch (Peter H.)
brought forth from the murky depths:

When I checked the sale item I found that you have to have a "certificate
number". How do I get that?.

On the back of you catalog.

It's only to qualify for the "free gift", which is usually a non-working watch,
or similarly useless stuff.

It is not necessary to buy the item.

No, but he'll need the xxxxx-xVGA number to get the sale price
from the phone or store location. My blue flyer number is
5907 bringing the price from $399.99 down to $269.99, evidently
without the xVGA suffix this time!

Speaking of HFT sales, has anyone here used their HVLP gravity
guns? Their 43430 is on sale for $45 now. Any good?


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Ken Finney writes:

What a really need is a box and pan brake, but from what I see in the
pictures, it doesn't appear that it has individual "fingers", but only
one long bending surface. Am I correct?

No, there are assorted sizes (1", 2", 3", ...) that allow you to make any
width from 1 inch to 30 inches in increments of 1 inch. For fractional
widths, you simply space out some small gaps.

On 31 Jan 2004 20:32:10 -0800, (Too_Many_Tools) wrote:
You also might want to ask yourself why Harbor Freight is closing
these machines out. More than once in the past, I have found that I
would rather have the new machine with more features/capacity that is
replacing the "closeout special".

They aren't closing them out. They're claiming they have a limited
number of machines which have "some cosmetic rust", so they can't
be sold for full price. They've done this before.

I haven't bit on this offer in the past due to visions of severely rusted
machinery. But Rich says the one he just got only had rust on the
crate banding.

Gary

On 31 Jan 2004 18:27:17 GMT, inch (Peter H.) wrote:


It's only to qualify for the "free gift", which is usually a non-working watch,
or similarly useless stuff.

Chuckle..I actually have one of their Casio G-shock knockoff watches
strapped around the head of my Gorton Mill. been working fine for the
last couple years.

it only took 3 watches to get one that worked.

Gunner

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Larry Jaques wrote:

On 31 Jan 2004 18:27:17 GMT, inch (Peter H.)
brought forth from the murky depths:



When I checked the sale item I found that you have to have a "certificate
number". How do I get that?.

On the back of you catalog.

It's only to qualify for the "free gift", which is usually a non-working watch,
or similarly useless stuff.

It is not necessary to buy the item.



No, but he'll need the xxxxx-xVGA number to get the sale price
from the phone or store location. My blue flyer number is
5907 bringing the price from $399.99 down to $269.99, evidently
without the xVGA suffix this time!

Ok I placed my order and it went through, thanks for the info.

Question! How badly will I damage the shear if I cut fiberglass circuit
board material.
I don't expect to do that very often but I can imagine wanting to do
that a few times.

Bill K7NOM

Gary Coffman wrote:
On 31 Jan 2004 20:32:10 -0800, (Too_Many_Tools) wrote:

You also might want to ask yourself why Harbor Freight is closing
these machines out. More than once in the past, I have found that I
would rather have the new machine with more features/capacity that is
replacing the "closeout special".


They aren't closing them out. They're claiming they have a limited
number of machines which have "some cosmetic rust", so they can't
be sold for full price. They've done this before.

I haven't bit on this offer in the past due to visions of severely rusted
machinery. But Rich says the one he just got only had rust on the
crate banding.

Gary

And the crate nails, don't forget the nails! 8-)

Mine's now completely out of the crate an on a table. I need to clean
the presevative off and bolt it down.

As to the earlier comment in the thread, I have a PEXTO 40" foot
operated shear. I really only wanted the press brake. Most of what I
do is .060 6061 or thinner. I hope it'll be fine for my hack work. I
only bend sheet metal to hold the electronics together anyway.

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In article , says...
Mine's now completely out of the crate an on a table. I need to clean
the presevative off and bolt it down.


Rich, how was this delivered? On my order status page at Harbor
Freight it says delivery by parcel post. Do they mean UPS or Fedex? It
seems kind of heavy, unless there is more than one crate.
Thanks.

On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 16:28:48 GMT, Bill Janssen
brought forth from the murky depths:

Larry Jaques wrote:
No, but he'll need the xxxxx-xVGA number to get the sale price
from the phone or store location. My blue flyer number is
5907 bringing the price from $399.99 down to $269.99, evidently
without the xVGA suffix this time!

Ok I placed my order and it went through, thanks for the info.

De nada.


Question! How badly will I damage the shear if I cut fiberglass circuit
board material.
I don't expect to do that very often but I can imagine wanting to do
that a few times.

No idea. I've never cut fiberglass with anything but a very fine
hacksaw blade or a grinder (standing upwind with a mask on).


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On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 16:28:48 GMT, Bill Janssen wrote:
Question! How badly will I damage the shear if I cut fiberglass circuit
board material.
I don't expect to do that very often but I can imagine wanting to do
that a few times.

Circuit board is very abrasive. I ruined a big hydraulic paper shear blade
by using it to cut circuit board. Might not matter as much with a metal
cutting shear, since the blade isn't all that sharp to begin with, but still,
it is something to consider.

Gary

On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 16:28:48 GMT, the renowned Bill Janssen
wrote:

Question! How badly will I damage the shear if I cut fiberglass circuit
board material.
I don't expect to do that very often but I can imagine wanting to do
that a few times.

No problem. It will eventually dull the blades, but a hundred or two
cuts? No problem.

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Jim Kovar wrote:

In article , says...

Mine's now completely out of the crate an on a table. I need to clean
the presevative off and bolt it down.



Rich, how was this delivered? On my order status page at Harbor
Freight it says delivery by parcel post. Do they mean UPS or Fedex? It
seems kind of heavy, unless there is more than one crate.
Thanks.

I got a postcard in the mail indicating they'd consigned it to a
trucking company. I got a call from the trucking company the next day.
I had to be able to unload it off the truck deck, they charged $65
to deliver with a truch with a lift gate. Fortunately, I live in a
really nice neighborhood and my next door neighbor has a forklift. If
I hadn't had a forlift I think two guys could manage it on a ramp of a
couple of 2 X 12s.

It may be 300 pounds, but I got it up on a table by myself (one end at a
time, and very carefully) and I'm not in particularly good shape.

It's a single crate. There are four lag screws along the bottom edge
that hold the crate top on along with the metal banding.

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Gary Coffman wrote:
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 16:28:48 GMT, Bill Janssen wrote:

Question! How badly will I damage the shear if I cut fiberglass circuit
board material.
I don't expect to do that very often but I can imagine wanting to do
that a few times.


Circuit board is very abrasive. I ruined a big hydraulic paper shear blade
by using it to cut circuit board. Might not matter as much with a metal
cutting shear, since the blade isn't all that sharp to begin with, but still,
it is something to consider.

Gary
Simply remember what you are cutting. Glass. SiO2 Beach Sand -
Arkansas Stone for knife sharpening. This is very fibrous - it is in
sheets of cloth of various weave of 2-30 or more layers. The copper isn't much.
The epoxy material used to bond the layers together in a press.

I have flattened band saw blades sawing it. The fibers are also 'white lung' type.

The board houses we deal with and the general body of makers are doing it with routers.
Carbide router bits turning at high speeds. Carbide drills are also used and warn out.

Take care
Martin

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On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 16:28:48 GMT, Bill Janssen
wrote:


Question! How badly will I damage the shear if I cut fiberglass circuit
board material.
I don't expect to do that very often but I can imagine wanting to do
that a few times.

Don't worry about it unless you need the shear to stay sharp enough to
cut very thin materials that scissors or a papercutter would cut
easily. I had a shear and notcher in my lab for many years that
were used on both cct boards and typically .062" aluminum sheetmetal,
a few cuts a week. No problem.

I have been looking for one of these for 200.00

http://www.zhongyang-engrg.com/catalog/hz2410-11.htm


"Gary Coffman" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 08:41:43 -0500, Bob Engelhardt
wrote:
It's spec'ed for 30" of 20 ga (max). Dos anybody have a feel for what
that means for heavier gauge? E.g., how big/wide of a piece of 18 ga
would it shear and/or bend? 16? Bob

Shear blades are angled, so they only engage a small amount of the
material being cut at any given instant. Thus the width of the piece
being cut doesn't affect how thick a piece it can cut.

The forces required by the brake to bend a piece do depend on
the width of the piece. So I'd expect you could bend a somewhat
thicker piece if it isn't full width. I'd proceed cautiously, though.
The limit might be in the fingers, or the piece holding them. Since
an individual finger doesn't extend full width, it will see the same
force when bending any given piece equal to or greater than its
own width.

Mine hasn't arrived yet, of course, but when it does I'm not going
to force it. At least I'm not until I get a feel for how stressed it
actually is when making a bend. It is, after all, only a 300 pound
$200 machine. You can't expect it to do the work of a heavy
industrial machine.

I did buy it with the idea of mostly cutting and forming aluminum.
I do expect it can handle a thicker piece of aluminum than it can
steel. But even so, I doubt it'll be happy shearing 11 gauge
aluminum rack panels. Not gonna force it, wouldn't be prudent.

Gary

On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 21:47:53 -0500, "Jeteye" wrote:
I have been looking for one of these for 200.00

http://www.zhongyang-engrg.com/catalog/hz2410-11.htm

I'll bet. That's a good bit bigger than the toys we're buying from
HF.

Gary

Interesting. While searching for dies, I came across 54427 and
called. It was free shipping also, so I ordered on 27Jan04. Today I
called to inquire on the status of the order. It is back ordered.

I reckon they need to get some more in that have some visible rust on
them.grin

- Reed
Raleigh. NC

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:40:00 -0600, Rich Osman wrote:

The clearance ad says "Visible rust, needs cleaning but will not affect
function of machine." Mine came today and I pulled the top off the crate
expceting the worst. The only rust I can locate is on the metal banding
holding the crate together and the nails in the crate. The machine looks
fine. Now to tear it apart and rebuild it into something that functions.

It's their item 54427-0VGA

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=54427

On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 13:49:16 -0500, wrote:
Interesting. While searching for dies, I came across 54427 and
called. It was free shipping also, so I ordered on 27Jan04. Today I
called to inquire on the status of the order. It is back ordered.

I reckon they need to get some more in that have some visible rust on
them.grin

They dragged one outside and started spraying salt water on it just
as soon as they got your order. :-)

Gary

Hummm, more likely the Men's Room. grin - Reed

On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 04:33:14 -0500, Gary Coffman
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 13:49:16 -0500, wrote:
Interesting. While searching for dies, I came across 54427 and
called. It was free shipping also, so I ordered on 27Jan04. Today I
called to inquire on the status of the order. It is back ordered.

I reckon they need to get some more in that have some visible rust on
them.grin

They dragged one outside and started spraying salt water on it just
as soon as they got your order. :-)

Gary