On 19 Jan 2006 04:41:38 GMT, D Murphy wrote:

Wow 43 posts vs. 3,030.

Yep. A piker G.
~ 100,000 ++ murdered .... no "WMDs" .. no threat ....

Crude Oil's up to about US$ 66 a barrel now.
$66/42 = $ 1.57 per gallon BEFORE refining, shipping, taxes
& profits (unless you owned the oil, pumped & sold it ... )
Now, if the neocons can just get wars with Iran & North Korea
started ...
--
Cliff

Cliff wrote:
On 19 Jan 2006 04:41:38 GMT, D Murphy wrote:

Wow 43 posts vs. 3,030.

Yep. A piker G.
~ 100,000 ++ murdered .... no "WMDs" .. no threat ....

Crude Oil's up to about US$ 66 a barrel now.
$66/42 = $ 1.57 per gallon BEFORE refining, shipping, taxes
& profits (unless you owned the oil, pumped & sold it ... )
Now, if the neocons can just get wars with Iran & North Korea
started ...
--
Cliff

Should have dealt with N Korea in the 50's, and Iran in 1979.
Appeasement doesn't work.

On 19 Jan 2006 14:59:40 -0800, wrote:


Cliff wrote:
On 19 Jan 2006 04:41:38 GMT, D Murphy wrote:

Wow 43 posts vs. 3,030.

Yep. A piker G.
~ 100,000 ++ murdered .... no "WMDs" .. no threat ....

Crude Oil's up to about US$ 66 a barrel now.
$66/42 = $ 1.57 per gallon BEFORE refining, shipping, taxes
& profits (unless you owned the oil, pumped & sold it ... )
Now, if the neocons can just get wars with Iran & North Korea
started ...
--
Cliff

Should have dealt with N Korea in the 50's, and Iran in 1979.
Appeasement doesn't work.

[
In 1994, the Clinton administration convinced North Korea to stop its nuclear
weapons program and allow United Nations monitors into the country. In return,
the US and other countries pledged to replace North Korea's nuclear power plants
that produce plutonium, a key ingredient in nuclear weapons, with light-water
reactors, which don't. They also agreed to send North Korea oil to help replace
the electricity lost when the nuclear plants shut down.
]
[
North Korea has said it wants the Bush administration to revalidate agreements
made in the fall of 2000 with President Clinton, including a US pledge to not
use nuclear weapons against them.
]

[
Then, in 2000, George W. Bush was elected president of the United States. The
first thing the Bush administration did was cut off all negotiations and all
contact with North Korea.
]

[
Turning its sights to new targets, the Bush administration named Iran, Iraq, and
North Korea as members of an "Axis of Evil." Immediately, Bush singled out Iraq
because of its "Weapons of Mass Destruction."
]

Should have kept the agreements, treaties & followed the laws.
But the neocons needed to create threats to justify power grabs
& fraud.

"Son of Star Wars"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/696028.stm

Found those "WMDs" yet?

HTH
--
Cliff

bit missing there.

Bush cut them off the Alaskan oil because they kicked out the inspectors and
started working in the Nukes and getting outside help.
Warning after warning - reminding never got a response that was useful.

It was blackmail of the first kind during the give away king William Clinton.
North Korea knows when it is bad and we want it to stop - we will pay big time
and nothing will happen. It is just blackmail. Killing their people left and right
by starvation and slavery.

And appeasement doesn't work. Democrats think they can talk the peace way
with anyone. To many were Dr. Spock and such babies. Love them to peace.

False.
Martin

Martin
Martin Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
NRA LOH & Endowment Member
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder



Cliff wrote:
On 19 Jan 2006 14:59:40 -0800, wrote:


Cliff wrote:

On 19 Jan 2006 04:41:38 GMT, D Murphy wrote:


Wow 43 posts vs. 3,030.

Yep. A piker G.
~ 100,000 ++ murdered .... no "WMDs" .. no threat ....

Crude Oil's up to about US$ 66 a barrel now.
$66/42 = $ 1.57 per gallon BEFORE refining, shipping, taxes
& profits (unless you owned the oil, pumped & sold it ... )
Now, if the neocons can just get wars with Iran & North Korea
started ...
--
Cliff

Should have dealt with N Korea in the 50's, and Iran in 1979.
Appeasement doesn't work.


[
In 1994, the Clinton administration convinced North Korea to stop its nuclear
weapons program and allow United Nations monitors into the country. In return,
the US and other countries pledged to replace North Korea's nuclear power plants
that produce plutonium, a key ingredient in nuclear weapons, with light-water
reactors, which don't. They also agreed to send North Korea oil to help replace
the electricity lost when the nuclear plants shut down.
]
[
North Korea has said it wants the Bush administration to revalidate agreements
made in the fall of 2000 with President Clinton, including a US pledge to not
use nuclear weapons against them.
]

[
Then, in 2000, George W. Bush was elected president of the United States. The
first thing the Bush administration did was cut off all negotiations and all
contact with North Korea.
]

[
Turning its sights to new targets, the Bush administration named Iran, Iraq, and
North Korea as members of an "Axis of Evil." Immediately, Bush singled out Iraq
because of its "Weapons of Mass Destruction."
]

Should have kept the agreements, treaties & followed the laws.
But the neocons needed to create threats to justify power grabs
& fraud.

"Son of Star Wars"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/696028.stm

Found those "WMDs" yet?

HTH

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On 20 Jan 2006 01:25:38 GMT, D Murphy wrote:

Cliff wrote in news:jfa0t15h83itoq572chv081n0rd05160df@
4ax.com:

Should have kept the agreements, treaties

We did. They didn't. We rescinded.

You just can't trust a neoocn these days, eh?

Even a simple mind can understand that.

The ABM treaties, weapons in space, a huge list indeed.
--
Cliff

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:51:06 -0600, "Martin H. Eastburn"
wrote:

bit missing there.

Bush cut them off

[
In 1994, the Clinton administration convinced North Korea to stop its nuclear
weapons program and allow United Nations monitors into the country. In return,
the US and other countries pledged to replace North Korea's nuclear power plants
that produce plutonium, a key ingredient in nuclear weapons, with light-water
reactors, which don't. They also agreed to send North Korea oil to help replace
the electricity lost when the nuclear plants shut down.
]
[
North Korea has said it wants the Bush administration to revalidate agreements
made in the fall of 2000 with President Clinton, including a US pledge to not
use nuclear weapons against them.
]

[
Then, in 2000, George W. Bush was elected president of the United States. The
first thing the Bush administration did was cut off all negotiations and all
contact with North Korea.
]

"in 2000"

the Alaskan oil

In 2000?

because they kicked out the inspectors

In December 2002 two "inspectors" were asked to leave.

and started working in the Nukes

In 2002?

and getting outside help.

Is the CIA sending them plans TOO?
--
Cliff