Hey Gang,

Got a busy few days starting right now, so gotta do this now.

So, here's to you "Robert".

Anybody heard how Ellen is doing?

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.

Hear, Hear, Brian! Is this a reference to an anniversary of Teenut's death?

Bob Swinney
"Brian Lawson" wrote in message
...
Hey Gang,

Got a busy few days starting right now, so gotta do this now.

So, here's to you "Robert".

Anybody heard how Ellen is doing?

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.

Count me in as well.......Tomorrow if my memory serves me right (Jan
11th) is when Robert passed away......

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 09:01:49 -0600, "Robert Swinney"
wrote:
Hear, Hear, Brian! Is this a reference to an anniversary of Teenut's death?

Bob Swinney
"Brian Lawson" wrote in message
m...
Hey Gang,

Got a busy few days starting right now, so gotta do this now.

So, here's to you "Robert".

Anybody heard how Ellen is doing?

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.


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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:17:28 -0500, Brian Lawson
wrote:

Hey Gang,

Got a busy few days starting right now, so gotta do this now.

So, here's to you "Robert".

Anybody heard how Ellen is doing?

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.


To absent Friends

Gunner

The aim of untold millions is to be free to do exactly as they choose
and for someone else to pay when things go wrong.

In the past few decades, a peculiar and distinctive psychology
has emerged in England. Gone are the civility, sturdy independence,
and admirable stoicism that carried the English through the war years
.. It has been replaced by a constant whine of excuses, complaints,
and special pleading. The collapse of the British character has been
as swift and complete as the collapse of British power.

Theodore Dalrymple,

My all time favorite post from TeeNut:





The drill was ground, freehand, on
the FACE of the wheel (not the flat side)...care being taken to keep the
POINT
angle as equal as possible on both sides..I'll tell you how to do THAT in a
moment..


Lets do that now in fact..


Jim, You are dead right about not being able to grind a drill without
mechanical
help! Well here's how you create your own "6 Million Dollar Bionic Darex"
;^)


Let's assume we are going to sharpen a 3/8" diameter, 2MT shank drill..it is
about 8" long (these figures are arbitrary..I just want every one to have
the
same mental picture of what I am describing. We approach the wheel, which
has
been dressed on its face, dead straight across with no grooves..(Ve SHOOT
anyone
ve catch putting grooves in ze drill wheel!!..No Pity..No Prisoners..Ya!
Verdampt!)


(Sorry)...


The drill shank is held firmly in the RIGHT hand...ALL the movement and
control
is imparted by the RIGHT hand. For the purposes of drill grinding, the left
hand
could be...with benefit..a LUMP OF CLAY!!


It is from this "lump of clay" that we fashion the Bionic Darex".


Place your left hand thumb and finger tips LIGHTLY together..Relax the other
three fingers aand let them naturally curl against the palm of your hand.
Let
the drill flute drop into the vee between thumb and fore finger and let the
tip
of the finger "Find" the curve of the flute where it fits comfortably. The
tip
of the thumb rests on the sharp junction ot the land and the flute, about an
inch back from the drill tip.


Now...SQUEEZE HARD!!! YOUCH!...I said it would be easier if it were clay!
8^)
Lift the drill from your fingers...see the GROOVE?...Drop the drill back
in..it
locates within a thou or two! Magic?..Bionic at least! Squeeze again to set
the
groove. You have created a customised drill guide that fits better that
that on
any machine ever built! You can relax your grip now..feel how smoothly the
drill will ride back and forth, guided by the groove you have created for
it.


Place the knuckles of your left hand, LIGHTLY on the ginding wheel tool
rest,
and swing the drill shank, from left to right (using ONLY your right hand)
and
push the drill lengthways though that groove in your fingers back or forth
using
the groove to make the drill twist or "rifle" in your fingers. Do NOT move
your
left hand in any way..it is made of clay remember!


UNTIL....


A) The drill axis is "eyeballed" to be at half the required point angle to
the
wheel face...You can scribe or chalk reference lines on your grinder
benchtop to
help you line this up..at least untill it become almost second nature.


B) The drill axis is dropped JUUUst below horizontal. This will ensure that
your soon to be ground drill lip will start with a "smidgin" of cutting
clearance.


(Ideally, and certainly for a beginner, the grinder rest should be set dead
radially to the wheel center and about half the drill diameter below the
true
center of the wheel)


C) The two cutting edges of the drill..the straight, sharp bits, formed by
the
junction of the flute and the back face (the only bit you grind), should be
horizontally disposed..with the edge uppermost on the side closest to your
left
hand..the othe sharp bit of course, pointing downwards (Jeeze this would be
a
lot easier with a sketch pad)


This I will call the SET or START position!


NOW, move your left hand for the first, last, and ONLY time during th is
whole
exercise. GENTLY ease the cutting edge towards the spinning wheel,
carefully
maintaining all the angles and orientations of the SET position..until the
cutting edge is JUST shy of touching the wheel. If you listen carefully you
will hear the tone of the entrained air, whistling through the narrowing
gap.
You will hear a subtle but distinct change of tone JUST, I mean Just...a
couple
tenths of a thou BEFORE the edge touches the wheel. STOP!!! FREEZE!! DO
NOT
MOVE!!


Now, press the knuckles of your lump of clay..sorry, your left hand FIRMLY
down
onto, into and around the grinding rest..establish a "Groove" on the back of
your hand as well as between your fingers.


We are now ready to grind, Your left hand locked to the drill and grinding
rest
is otherwise quite relaxed..letting the drill slide, twist and tilt wherever
your right hand and the groove in your fingers tell it to go.


The actual grinding is a bit of an anticlimax.


You have previously studied a new drill point, you have read about
clearance,
and cutting angles, and rakes and......


With the RIGHT hand in control, gently, kinda, lean forward... bending or
squeezing your arms hands and body..rather than actually moving them..untill
you
take up that last couple of tenths and the wheel begins to cut. Let it
cut..don't force it, and dont' rush it..it really won't hurt anything if you
take a full minute Per pass per face. YOU and your "Bionic Darex" are
totally
in control of that drill and the wheel..Forget the times when, close to
panic,
you swung the drill wildly past the wheel, hoping to get "the dirty deed"
over
with as quickly as possible.


Take your time, enjoy the moment, THINK about the shape you are trying to
generate. Just the one face is left to "Interpretation"...every other
aspect,angle, facet, what have you...Has ALREADY BEEN TAKEN CARE OF!! and is
locked in place under your control!


The right hand should perfome a "Lower Quadrant sweep" for want of a better
term..An observer behind you would see your hand move from about 17 minutes
past
the hour on a clock face, to roughly 25 minutes past. But it isn't a smooth
arc
of a circle, more a sector of an elipse..You see, as your hand starts to
drop
slowly, you are also rotating the drill in "the groove"..the first third of
the
turn needs to maintain that very slight clearance angle on the cutting edge,
and
not increase it too rapidly.


You need the clearance to cut..But too much at that point will WEAKEN the
edge,
and cause the drill to snatch and chip...So the first part of the rotation
is
ALMOST but not quite, just as though you were grinding a straight cone point
on
the end of your drill. Only as you approach the second third, does your
right
hand start to noticably drop..kinda "Catching Up" on the rotary
motion...increasing the clearance as it does.


In the last third of the rotaion the right hand drops quite rapidly..Thogh
not
enough to catch the OTHER drill lip on the wheel..that lip is coming around
quite rapidly by now.


Above all, take your time, if it helps, move the drill one degree at a time,
and
think ahead what shape or angle the next degree of cutting face
needs...Remember, you have control, and IT ain't going nowhere 'til you
decide.


After a pass on one face, flip the drill in your "Bionic Darex" DO NOT MOVE
THAT LEFT HAND!!, return to SET position and repeat, the pass on the other
face.


Having done a couple of passes on each face..it is now time to check the
results
on our homemade "Optical Comparator"


(Sorry Jim I couldn't resist!!) ;^)


Rest the center hole in back end of the drill shank, on the center point of
the
"Comparator" and use, first one and then the other drill lip to scribe a
light
line on your whitewashed (OK Blue or red dyed) surface.


You will readily see if the lines coincide..if the lips are even..or not, as
the
case may be.


Lets assume they are..Now look directly DOWN on the end of the drill to
check
the clearances. HUH? How can you check radial clearance by looking it
staight
in the face? Surely you need to look at it sideways?


Well no you don't...for once all thos interacting and confusing angle and
faces
and clearances are going to work together in YOUR favor and make what could
be a
tricky bit of metrology..quite simple. While we are looking at the end of
the
drill, we will also check that the POINT ANGLE is correct too!!!


(Ok guys, leave quietly..teenut has finally lost it!!)


No really, trust me. IF you look straight down on the point of a well
sharpened, standard drill, you will see
the two cutting edges, joined by the CHISEL edge which crosses over the web
of
the drill The angle fromed by the chisel edge to each cutting edge, should
be
ABOUT 50 deg...anywhere between 40 and sixty is ok for a first attempt. (I
can
hear the purists and theorists screaming and lighting up their flame
throwers)
But believe me, get it in that ball park and your drill will CUT. If the
angle
is too steep..you don't have enough clearance...negative clearance will give
you
an angle event greater than 90 deg. Too MUCH clerance and the angle will
appear
too shallow!


While looking at the end, check the point angle, How? Look down the axis
of
the drill at the cutting edges. Are they straight? If so, your point is
pretty
close to the right angle (As designed for that drill, by its manufacturer
when
he set the helix angle and the cross section of the flute) If the edges
appear
CONCAVE the point is too flat and if they appear CONVEX, the point is too
"Pointy"


If your drill passes all these tests, which take but a second or two to
perform,
THEN IT WILL CUT..pretty close to size, without chattering, chipping,
overheating, wandering or seizing. I guarantee it!


Hey, thats a pretty good start for the first drill you ever ground! All it
takes now is a bit of practice for it to become second nature and almost as
easy
with a little 'un or a big 'un!


Hey guys!


My apologies for "goin'on" but If it helps just one person to pluck up the
couragre and go hand sharpen his (or Her) first drill, by hand...


Then I hope you will bear with me.


It is late, I am tired and I am not even going to proof or spell check this,


'night all


teenut

In article ,
Gunner wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:17:28 -0500, Brian Lawson
wrote:

Hey Gang,

Got a busy few days starting right now, so gotta do this now.

So, here's to you "Robert".

Anybody heard how Ellen is doing?

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.


To absent Friends


Indeed!

I like to think teenut is somewhere putting out stars, planets,
galaxies, and the like in God's Intergalactic & Eternal Creative
Welding, Fabricating, and Machine Shop.

"Karl Townsend" remove .NOT wrote in
message anews.com...
My all time favorite post from TeeNut:



Thanks for that. Nice post.

I wish I was here when he was......

Dave sez: "Thanks for that. Nice post.

I wish I was here when he was......"

Yep! RCM lost a lot when teenut left. I don't recall ever seeing a post of
his where he bragged about how cheaply he acquired something on ebay. He
never sought to use RCM as a bulletin board for crap he hoped to sell on
ebay or used it as a "design forum" to get help from well meaning RCM'rs on
some half-assed project. Teenut's principal project was sharing his vast
storehouse of metalworking knowledge. I'd like to have seen his reaction to
those that post friviously on RCM just to see their names come up. Don't
tmisunderstand me on this. Teenut was quite the taskmaster, also. He put
me "in my place" on several occasions when I was clearly out of line.

Bob Swinney

In article , Robert Swinney
says...

tmisunderstand me on this. Teenut was quite the taskmaster, also. He put
me "in my place" on several occasions when I was clearly out of line.

Quite the grouch on occasion, he and I had words now and then.

A very smart man though.

To Robert.

Jim


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Jim sez:

"A very smart man though.
Quite the grouch on occasion, he and I had words now and then."

tsk, tsk, Jim! "Curmudgeon" might be the better word; in its tamer
definition where it means more like "loveable and smart grouch", sorta like
Andy Rooney on TV..

One of the final tributes paid to teenut was when he lay dying and posted on
RCM in a veiled query about how he was regarded in that venue. It went
something like, "I'd rather have an ass-eating from teenut than a blessing
from the Pope, any day".

Bob Swinney




"jim rozen" wrote in message
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In article , Robert Swinney
says...

tmisunderstand me on this. Teenut was quite the taskmaster, also. He put
me "in my place" on several occasions when I was clearly out of line.




To Robert.

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"Karl Townsend" remove .NOT wrote in
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My all time favorite post from TeeNut:



Thanks for that. Nice post.

I wish I was here when he was......



I'm far more grateful than I can possibly express that I was.

He is, and ever will be, very sorely missed.

Thankfully, his posts live on through the magic of Google:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q...006&safe =off

Yep - The center of Jupiter has a core of Metallic Hydrogen -
Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the cosmos.

He has Hydrogen fuel and Metallic Hydrogen to forge with!

Martin
Martin Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
NRA LOH & Endowment Member
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder



John Husvar wrote:
In article ,
Gunner wrote:


On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:17:28 -0500, Brian Lawson
wrote:


Hey Gang,

Got a busy few days starting right now, so gotta do this now.

So, here's to you "Robert".

Anybody heard how Ellen is doing?

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.


To absent Friends



Indeed!

I like to think teenut is somewhere putting out stars, planets,
galaxies, and the like in God's Intergalactic & Eternal Creative
Welding, Fabricating, and Machine Shop.

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According to John Husvar :
In article ,
Gunner wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:17:28 -0500, Brian Lawson
wrote:

[ ... ]

Got a busy few days starting right now, so gotta do this now.

So, here's to you "Robert".

Anybody heard how Ellen is doing?

[ ... ]

To absent Friends


Indeed!

To teenut. (Takes swing from bottle of Nukie Broon" saved for
the purpose.

I do miss him.

I like to think teenut is somewhere putting out stars, planets,
galaxies, and the like in God's Intergalactic & Eternal Creative
Welding, Fabricating, and Machine Shop.

Finishing his oversized Mauser actions.

Salud!,
DoN.
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Well guys, here I am. Five years ago today, we were raising our
glasses at Robert's Celebration of his Life. This is Ellen Bastow
Bratton, the late Robert "teenut" Bastow's wife. It was 5 years ago on
Jan. 11, that Robert went to assist God with metalwork that had to be
done. Don't you know that teenut has tried to put the Man straight a
number of times!!!! I am doing great! My husband, Dave, is the
reincarnation of Robert. He also has a way with words. Thanks to all
of you that remember Robert. I think of him everyday. I find myself
talking to him all the time. I just wish I could hear his views on all
the stuff going on in the world today. Boy, would he have an opinion.
Anyway, thanks for the memories. Take care, and will check in again.
Ellen

According to :
Well guys, here I am. Five years ago today, we were raising our
glasses at Robert's Celebration of his Life. This is Ellen Bastow
Bratton, the late Robert "teenut" Bastow's wife. It was 5 years ago on
Jan. 11, that Robert went to assist God with metalwork that had to be
done. Don't you know that teenut has tried to put the Man straight a
number of times!!!! I am doing great!

I am glad to hear that you are doing great.

My husband, Dave, is the
reincarnation of Robert. He also has a way with words.

Hmm ... is he also a metalworker? If so, does he participate in
this newsgroup?

Thanks to all
of you that remember Robert. I think of him everyday. I find myself
talking to him all the time. I just wish I could hear his views on all
the stuff going on in the world today. Boy, would he have an opinion.
Anyway, thanks for the memories. Take care, and will check in again.

We'll look forward to it.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On 14 Jan 2006 10:44:30 -0800, wrote:

Well guys, here I am. Five years ago today, we were raising our
glasses at Robert's Celebration of his Life. This is Ellen Bastow
Bratton, the late Robert "teenut" Bastow's wife. It was 5 years ago on
Jan. 11, that Robert went to assist God with metalwork that had to be
done. Don't you know that teenut has tried to put the Man straight a
number of times!!!! I am doing great! My husband, Dave, is the
reincarnation of Robert. He also has a way with words. Thanks to all
of you that remember Robert. I think of him everyday. I find myself
talking to him all the time. I just wish I could hear his views on all
the stuff going on in the world today. Boy, would he have an opinion.
Anyway, thanks for the memories. Take care, and will check in again.
Ellen


Good on you, all three of you!


Mark Rand
RTFM

Scary how time goes by so quickly.
As it happens, the evening I learned of teenuts passing, I was making a pair
of centre finders for use with my drill press. Every time I use them now I
am reminded of teenut. Can't believe it is 5 years ago. Sheesh, at this
rate, one of these days I am going to wake up old.

Keith


wrote in message
oups.com...
Well guys, here I am. Five years ago today, we were raising our
glasses at Robert's Celebration of his Life. This is Ellen Bastow
Bratton, the late Robert "teenut" Bastow's wife. It was 5 years ago on
Jan. 11, that Robert went to assist God with metalwork that had to be
done. Don't you know that teenut has tried to put the Man straight a
number of times!!!! I am doing great! My husband, Dave, is the
reincarnation of Robert. He also has a way with words. Thanks to all
of you that remember Robert. I think of him everyday. I find myself
talking to him all the time. I just wish I could hear his views on all
the stuff going on in the world today. Boy, would he have an opinion.
Anyway, thanks for the memories. Take care, and will check in again.
Ellen

wrote in message
oups.com...
Well guys, here I am. Five years ago today, we were raising our
glasses at Robert's Celebration of his Life. This is Ellen Bastow
Bratton, the late Robert "teenut" Bastow's wife. It was 5 years ago on
Jan. 11, that Robert went to assist God with metalwork that had to be
done. Don't you know that teenut has tried to put the Man straight a
number of times!!!! I am doing great! My husband, Dave, is the
reincarnation of Robert. He also has a way with words. Thanks to all
of you that remember Robert. I think of him everyday. I find myself
talking to him all the time. I just wish I could hear his views on all
the stuff going on in the world today. Boy, would he have an opinion.
Anyway, thanks for the memories. Take care, and will check in again.
Ellen


All the best to You. Live life to the fullest!

Steve R.

In article , kc says...

..Can't believe it is 5 years ago. Sheesh, at this
rate, one of these days I am going to wake up old.

Like they say, "I'm much too young to be this damn old."

Jim


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