Will I need carbide cutters and coolant or can I get buy on HSS
tooling alone? I have a nice big chunk I want to machine into an
anvil. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
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"Roy" wrote in message
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tooling alone? I have a nice big chunk I want to machine into an
anvil. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
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Sorry, Roy. HSS won't touch fruit cake. Fact is, even carbide has a tough
time with it. You'd be best served by applying diamond tools, but the
very best thing to do with it is to send it to someone you flat don't like.

Fashioning an anvil would be one of few useful applications, but do you
really want to spend the balance of your life screwing around with it, when
you can go to Harbor Freight and purchase one made of steel?

Yeah, I realize it won't hold up as well as the fruit cake, but you'll at
least live long enough to get some use from it, unlike the fruit cake model.
The way I see it, you'll spend no less than the next twenty years wearing it
down enough to resemble an anvil. Won't have much time left by then, and
likely not much interest, either.

That's my story, and I'm stickin' with it.

Harold

It's still softer than a motel mattress. They measure about 69 on the
rockwell c scale.
They make good surface plates.
73 Gary

The mattress is pretty soft once you break thru the white crust.

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"Gary" wrote in message
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It's still softer than a motel mattress. They measure about 69 on the
rockwell c scale.
They make good surface plates.
73 Gary

Ooooh! I'll eat the swarf! You have to pick out the aluminum and steel
chips first, please.

I must be the only one in the world that likes fruit cake...

Peter


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I (many years ago) worked part time as a baker. I cooked millions of
cookies, one Christmas the master baker made a VERY large batch of fruit
bread, she asked me to remove it when it was done. Well after "baking (I was
18)" I kept checking when this was done, after MANY hours of "baking" I
decided it was time to go out and "bake some more with the guys" well the
next day at work I was realy GRILLED about the BRICKS I had made. I no
longer "bake"
"Clif Holland" wrote in message
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The mattress is pretty soft once you break thru the white crust.

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"Gary" wrote in message
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It's still softer than a motel mattress. They measure about 69 on the
rockwell c scale.
They make good surface plates.
73 Gary

In article ,
(Roy) wrote:

Will I need carbide cutters and coolant or can I get buy on HSS
tooling alone? I have a nice big chunk I want to machine into an
anvil. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

Just ship it here; I like the stuff.

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Soak it in rum for 6 weeks and the HSS might work. I live about 60 miles
from Claxton, GA where they used to make about 40% of the fruitcake sold in
North America. They got in financial trouble a few years back because their
product was being recycled from one Christmas to the next and their market
dried up. The key to a mass market product is to make it self obsolescent
or consumable. Fruit cake never becomes obsolete and is seldom consumed.

Many years ago the guy who now owns the company that makes Jessada router
bits ran the US branch of CMT. He sent out Italian fruit cakes for
Christmas one year. Absolutely the best baked goods I ever tasted!

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
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"Roy" wrote in message
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Suggest CO2 coolant bath - and Sapphire tipped cutting tools.

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Roy wrote:
Will I need carbide cutters and coolant or can I get buy on HSS
tooling alone? I have a nice big chunk I want to machine into an
anvil. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

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Actually I buy them myself - but only from the real place in Texas.
These others are likely left over from another period in time.

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Peter Grey wrote:
Ooooh! I'll eat the swarf! You have to pick out the aluminum and steel
chips first, please.

I must be the only one in the world that likes fruit cake...

Peter


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Ooooh! I'll eat the swarf! You have to pick out the aluminum and steel
chips first, please.

I must be the only one in the world that likes fruit cake...

Peter


Truth be known, I like fruity cake, but it has to be made with candied
fruit, not gum drops.

Harold

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 03:58:32 GMT, Ecnerwal
wrote:

In article ,
(Roy) wrote:

Will I need carbide cutters and coolant or can I get buy on HSS
tooling alone? I have a nice big chunk I want to machine into an
anvil. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

Just ship it here; I like the stuff.

Actually..so do I. The last one I got, I took out to the Walker Turner
bandsaw, and cut into neat 3/8" slices, then picked out a good book
and pigged out on fruit cake and milk.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 22:28:01 GMT, (Roy) wrote:

Will I need carbide cutters and coolant or can I get buy on HSS
tooling alone? I have a nice big chunk I want to machine into an
anvil. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

I would use a No 1 wife with frequent glasses of port as cutting fluid.



Mark Rand
RTFM

"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message
...

Truth be known, I like fruity cake, but it has to be made with candied
fruit, not gum drops.

Gum drops? Horrors! No wonder people don't like fruit cake.

Peter

"Peter Grey" wrote in message
ink.net...
"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message
...

Truth be known, I like fruity cake, but it has to be made with candied
fruit, not gum drops.

Gum drops? Horrors! No wonder people don't like fruit cake.

Peter

Yeah, a strange tradition that came with my wife. Small bits of gum drops
in place of candied fruit. I'd never seen it before.

My mother made a killer good fruit cake-----heavy, moist, very
tasty-----based on a spice cake, and made with candied fruit. Then
along came gum drops. I've never viewed fruit cake the same way since.

Harold

A chunk of fruit cake?
You mean Cliff?

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Accidental creation should not be taught as a fact.
Intelligent creation should not be banned from teachings as
unconstitutional.

"Clark Magnuson" wrote in message
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A chunk of fruit cake?
You mean Cliff?

BSEG

Accidental creation should not be taught as a fact.

It's not an accident. When conditions for life are proper, it's
spontaneous. Science has proven it to more than my satisfaction by the
large number of mass extinctions throughout the existence of the planet
Earth, followed by repopulation by different life forms, better suited to
existing conditions.

You do read, don't you? You've surely read about natural selection, or
survival of the fittest? You know------------ Darwin! The guy that did
the extensive studies that enlightened humans and got them away from tired
old tales of how we came about, none of which hold water.

Intelligent creation should not be banned from teachings as
unconstitutional.

Oh, but it should! I don't think it's a good idea to teach fairytales as
fact.

Harold

In article , Harold and Susan Vordos says...

Intelligent creation should not be banned from teachings as
unconstitutional.

Oh, but it should! I don't think it's a good idea to teach fairytales as
fact.

Ah, he probably just hasn't updated his sig file to reflect that
court decision in PA, Harold. I'm sure he wouldn't want it to be
so badly out of line with the scientific, and *legal* realities.

I read that court's decision BTW. I think it was probably issued
on asbestos paper! Those poor foolish ID folks. Given the lying
they did, they're probably going to be on the hook for all the
court fees and all the lawyer fees as well.

Jim


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These are to kill for. Real nuts, Real fruit.
I bought a large one for work one year - I was the Engineering Manager -
what did I know - by lunch it was gone. I think it was a 7 pound size.

The President - a Greek - bought them the next year.

Martin
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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 03:58:32 GMT, Ecnerwal
wrote:


In article ,
(Roy) wrote:


Will I need carbide cutters and coolant or can I get buy on HSS
tooling alone? I have a nice big chunk I want to machine into an
anvil. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

Just ship it here; I like the stuff.


Actually..so do I. The last one I got, I took out to the Walker Turner
bandsaw, and cut into neat 3/8" slices, then picked out a good book
and pigged out on fruit cake and milk.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

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"jim rozen" wrote in message
...
In article , Harold and Susan Vordos says...

Intelligent creation should not be banned from teachings as
unconstitutional.

Oh, but it should! I don't think it's a good idea to teach fairytales
as
fact.

Ah, he probably just hasn't updated his sig file to reflect that
court decision in PA, Harold. I'm sure he wouldn't want it to be
so badly out of line with the scientific, and *legal* realities.

Yeah, that's probably it, Jim. Just too busy with Christmas and other
reasonable things.


I read that court's decision BTW. I think it was probably issued
on asbestos paper!

Chuckle! Now that's a shame, isn't it? You mean to say that maybe
these dolts won't be able to waste the time of folks that have better things
to do than argue with those that possess the minds of children?

Those poor foolish ID folks. Given the lying
they did, they're probably going to be on the hook for all the
court fees and all the lawyer fees as well.

Jim

As it should be! To damned bad they can't be assessed punitive damage as
well. I'm sick to death of those morons. At what point in time do
otherwise reasonable adults abandon such idiocy?

Harold

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:05:42 -0800, "Harold and Susan Vordos"
wrote:



As it should be! To damned bad they can't be assessed punitive damage as
well. I'm sick to death of those morons. At what point in time do
otherwise reasonable adults abandon such idiocy?

Harold


Harold-

Were you married in a church or civil service?

-Carl

"Martin H. Eastburn" wrote:

http://www.collinstreet.com/

These are to kill for. Real nuts, Real fruit.
I bought a large one for work one year - I was the Engineering Manager -
what did I know - by lunch it was gone. I think it was a 7 pound size.

The President - a Greek - bought them the next year.

Martin


Real nuts, Real fruit. Big hairy deal! They got the color all wrong!
:-)

My grannies fruitcake was dark, solid, heavy, moist, and as sweet as
love! Mmmmmm! It definitely was an exercise in long term planning in the
making, and I'd bet there was nearly a mortgage involved in buying the
ingredients, but man, I can almost taste it!

Never had piece of pale fruitcake that could stand up to that, though
some of them were pretty good for overweight dessert cakes. :-P

Mmmm, happy thoughts! Thanks!

Cheers
Trevor Jones

"Carl Byrns" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:05:42 -0800, "Harold and Susan Vordos"
wrote:



As it should be! To damned bad they can't be assessed punitive damage as
well. I'm sick to death of those morons. At what point in time do
otherwise reasonable adults abandon such idiocy?

Harold


Harold-

Were you married in a church or civil service?

-Carl
LOL I was married on an airport in the middle of the runway. Escape was via
hot air balloon. WTF does that have to do with anything??
Glenn

"Carl Byrns" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:05:42 -0800, "Harold and Susan Vordos"
wrote:



As it should be! To damned bad they can't be assessed punitive damage as
well. I'm sick to death of those morons. At what point in time do
otherwise reasonable adults abandon such idiocy?

Harold


Harold-

Were you married in a church or civil service?

-Carl

The first one, a church service, didn't work worth a damn. Is it possible
we do way too much to appease parents? I had made my disdain for religion
known when I was but a tot------

Second marriage, performed at the Heart of Reno "Wedding Chapel" has endured
over 28 years. The pastor was the same guy as the chauffer, and also the
photographer. I attribute that to a strong woman. I'm a ******* to live
with. (yeah, I know------"Go figure") g

Harold

I will see your fruit cake (pages.quicksilver.net.nz/geoffm/xmas_cake.htm)
and raise you a Christmas Pudding.
http://pages.quicksilver.net.nz/geoffm/xmas_pud.htm
Damn it is good. Shame I usually have to share it with the rest of the
family. It is only fair, since my mother makes it, and after all these
years, she has the knack (and 6 pudding basins, a mega stock pot...)

If you make an anvil out of fruitcake, won't the steel parts that you
hammer to shape on top of it end up having a fruitcake-like surface
texture? That may or may not be a good thing...

I wonder if fruitcake can be annealed?

On 28 Dec 2005 00:49:11 -0800, wrote:

If you make an anvil out of fruitcake, won't the steel parts that you
hammer to shape on top of it end up having a fruitcake-like surface
texture? That may or may not be a good thing...

I wonder if fruitcake can be annealed?

Yes. It needs to be heated to a dull glow over a fire using a fine
Kentucky Burbon as fuel, then slowly cooled in a bed of unsalted
popcorn, prefably over night.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 07:56:52 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Geoff
M quickly quoth:

I will see your fruit cake (pages.quicksilver.net.nz/geoffm/xmas_cake.htm)
and raise you a Christmas Pudding.
http://pages.quicksilver.net.nz/geoffm/xmas_pud.htm
Damn it is good. Shame I usually have to share it with the rest of the
family. It is only fair, since my mother makes it, and after all these
years, she has the knack (and 6 pudding basins, a mega stock pot...)

Friends don't let friends pudding and drive.

Apart from the cloves, brandy, rum, beer, dates,
and prunes, it sounds pretty good. Is it as
lethal as lead, or just as heavy?


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wrote:
If you make an anvil out of fruitcake, won't the steel parts that you
hammer to shape on top of it end up having a fruitcake-like surface
texture? That may or may not be a good thing...

I wonder if fruitcake can be annealed?


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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 10:10:23 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote:

On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 07:56:52 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Geoff
M quickly quoth:

I will see your fruit cake (pages.quicksilver.net.nz/geoffm/xmas_cake.htm)
and raise you a Christmas Pudding.
http://pages.quicksilver.net.nz/geoffm/xmas_pud.htm
Damn it is good. Shame I usually have to share it with the rest of the
family. It is only fair, since my mother makes it, and after all these
years, she has the knack (and 6 pudding basins, a mega stock pot...)

Friends don't let friends pudding and drive.

Apart from the cloves, brandy, rum, beer, dates,
and prunes, it sounds pretty good. Is it as
lethal as lead, or just as heavy?

Well, the afternoons apres Xmas dinner are usually very inactive. The house
resounds to the sound of snores. I have eaten a whole one on my own in the
past. It is very filling...
Geoff