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ANSI CODE B7-1, exception for grinding on side of wheel
Hello, I am a newbie here but not new to NG. I am trying to sharpen a
woodturning skew (looks like a chisel ground @ 45 degree angle or so. MFG. says hollow grinding not suitable for this tool. I read on a new grinding wheel I purchased that there is an exception for not grinding on the side of the wheel in ansi code b7-1. I did a google, yahoo, you name it search and just got the same reference and/or a website to purchase this code book for $125. Hoping some of you guys might have a clue what they are talking about. In the mean while I will hollow grind it to keep from having a grinding wheel removed from my chest @ the hospital. :-) Thanks in advance. Lyndell |
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ANSI CODE B7-1, exception for grinding on side of wheel
"Lyndell Thompson" wrote in message nk.net... Hello, I am a newbie here but not new to NG. I am trying to sharpen a woodturning skew (looks like a chisel ground @ 45 degree angle or so. MFG. says hollow grinding not suitable for this tool. I read on a new grinding wheel I purchased that there is an exception for not grinding on the side of the wheel in ansi code b7-1. I did a google, yahoo, you name it search and just got the same reference and/or a website to purchase this code book for $125. Hoping some of you guys might have a clue what they are talking about. In the mean while I will hollow grind it to keep from having a grinding wheel removed from my chest @ the hospital. :-) Thanks in advance. Lyndell I don't have a clue what the code may be, but grinding on the side of a wheel is perfectly acceptable if you use your head (and I don't mean against the wheel). A grinding wheel is at risk of rupturing when too much side pressure is applied----an example of which might be cleaning up a piece of torch cut material. Light applications, such as a cutting tool that needs virtually no stock removed, would certainly be within reason. Ring the wheel before mounting, and break any wheel that doesn't ring true----to avoid some poor fool from running a cracked wheel. Always stand aside while a grinding wheel spools up------just in case! Give it a minute or so before trusting it, then grind away. Harold |
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ANSI CODE B7-1, exception for grinding on side of wheel
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:01:03 GMT, "Lyndell Thompson"
wrote: Hello, I am a newbie here but not new to NG. You might do better in rec.crafts.woodturning. I am trying to sharpen a woodturning skew (looks like a chisel ground @ 45 degree angle or so. MFG. says hollow grinding not suitable for this tool. Just hollow grind it, but on a large slow wheel (about 10" or so) and water cooled. So long as it's a big wheel, then the hollow is negligible. I'd hate to try and grind a skew on the side of any wheel. They're tricky things to hold when you're grinding them, because of the skewed angle and the resultant offset. To do one you really need a big wheel and a nice wide toolrest. If you're doing gouges too, a wide wheel is a good help in getting a good shape to the gouge. I'm also unimpressed with grinding on the sides of wheels. I'll cheerfully do it on a slow water wheel, but never on a 3000 rpm bench grinder. The main problem is that the sides of a wheel just aren't flat - too many people have been sharpening their tools there before and you certainly don't want to start dressing the stone on the side! Woodturning tools are different from bench chisels. They're HSS so they'll never take such a fine edge anyway and they're for turning so they don't even need it. A big 10" water cooled wheel is cheap (£100) from the many low-end Chinese makers and will work fine for sharpening them. For initial shaping of woodturning tools, I just use a flap disk in an angle grinder! |
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ANSI CODE B7-1, exception for grinding on side of wheel
Don't hollow grind it - THE user relies on the metal you will be grinding off.
That metal is held against wood and then the handle is tipped up to engage the wood. Remember - wood turners use their hands and arms and whole bodies to cut wood. Metal workers have tool holders that hold their tools. Martin [ have both wood and metal lathes ] Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder Lyndell Thompson wrote: Hello, I am a newbie here but not new to NG. I am trying to sharpen a woodturning skew (looks like a chisel ground @ 45 degree angle or so. MFG. says hollow grinding not suitable for this tool. I read on a new grinding wheel I purchased that there is an exception for not grinding on the side of the wheel in ansi code b7-1. I did a google, yahoo, you name it search and just got the same reference and/or a website to purchase this code book for $125. Hoping some of you guys might have a clue what they are talking about. In the mean while I will hollow grind it to keep from having a grinding wheel removed from my chest @ the hospital. :-) Thanks in advance. Lyndell ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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ANSI CODE B7-1, exception for grinding on side of wheel
http://www.ind.nortonabrasives.com/M...7%20Wheels.pdf
If that doesn't stay long - use cut and paste to fix it - From Norton - Talks about the type 27 wheels and grinding on the side... Just remember - wood workers need the shoulders of metal and a true flat edge. Some work places the cutting edge straight (verticle) into the wood - keeping the point out... Some parting takes that. Martin Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder Lyndell Thompson wrote: Hello, I am a newbie here but not new to NG. I am trying to sharpen a woodturning skew (looks like a chisel ground @ 45 degree angle or so. MFG. says hollow grinding not suitable for this tool. I read on a new grinding wheel I purchased that there is an exception for not grinding on the side of the wheel in ansi code b7-1. I did a google, yahoo, you name it search and just got the same reference and/or a website to purchase this code book for $125. Hoping some of you guys might have a clue what they are talking about. In the mean while I will hollow grind it to keep from having a grinding wheel removed from my chest @ the hospital. :-) Thanks in advance. Lyndell ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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ANSI CODE B7-1, exception for grinding on side of wheel
Thanks to all the replies on this topic, especially the ones pointing out
the type 27 grinding wheels, which of course were always designed for this purpose (I feel stupid now). Thanks again. Lyndell "Lyndell Thompson" wrote in message nk.net... Hello, I am a newbie here but not new to NG. I am trying to sharpen a woodturning skew (looks like a chisel ground @ 45 degree angle or so. MFG. says hollow grinding not suitable for this tool. I read on a new grinding wheel I purchased that there is an exception for not grinding on the side of the wheel in ansi code b7-1. I did a google, yahoo, you name it search and just got the same reference and/or a website to purchase this code book for $125. Hoping some of you guys might have a clue what they are talking about. In the mean while I will hollow grind it to keep from having a grinding wheel removed from my chest @ the hospital. :-) Thanks in advance. Lyndell |
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ANSI CODE B7-1, exception for grinding on side of wheel
Lyndell Thompson wrote:
Hello, I am a newbie here but not new to NG. I am trying to sharpen a woodturning skew (looks like a chisel ground @ 45 degree angle or so. MFG. says hollow grinding not suitable for this tool. I read on a new grinding wheel I purchased that there is an exception for not grinding on the side of the wheel in ansi code b7-1. I did a google, yahoo, you name it search and just got the same reference and/or a website to purchase this code book for $125. Hoping some of you guys might have a clue what they are talking about. In the mean while I will hollow grind it to keep from having a grinding wheel removed from my chest @ the hospital. :-) Thanks in advance. There is a newsgroup, rec.crafts.woodturning, in which you will find a great deal of expertise on the specific topic of sharpening woodturning tools. You might want to ask this there. Lyndell -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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