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"Universal" TIG electrodes (tungstens)?
Looking at some online TIG consumable sellers web sites it seems I can buy
TIG tungstens alloyed to make a universal electrode? I am new to TIG, having just bought a used Migatronic MTE220. I have received red and white banded electrodes, but I now wonder if the "grey" banded ones would allow me to weld aluminium ally, stainless steel and mild steel without buying several types of tungstens? I will be mainly doing light work on race car chassis and plumbing / exhausts. Gas will be pure argon, not a mix. Thanks. |
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"Universal" TIG electrodes (tungstens)?
Chris wrote:
Looking at some online TIG consumable sellers web sites it seems I can buy TIG tungstens alloyed to make a universal electrode? I am new to TIG, having just bought a used Migatronic MTE220. I have received red and white banded electrodes, but I now wonder if the "grey" banded ones would allow me to weld aluminium ally, stainless steel and mild steel without buying several types of tungstens? I will be mainly doing light work on race car chassis and plumbing / exhausts. Gas will be pure argon, not a mix. Thanks. You want Zirconiated electrodes (brown color code) for aluminum. They are astoundingly better than EWP (pure Tungsten, green color code). I tried the EWP and the electrodes became contaminated, melted, spattered crud all over, and made poor welds. With the EWZr electrodes, I had vastly less trouble with contamination and started making beginner's grade welds. I can't find any grey color code in the Lincoln GTAW book. If your machine only does DC, you have little hope of doing TIG on aluminum. You need AC and continuous HF to get good results on aluminum. Pure Argon is right for Al and most other TIG applications. Stainless can be welded with Thoriated 2% (red code) on DCEN with pure Argon shield gas. The same electrode and gas is fine for most other steels, as well. If the radioactivity of the Thorium worries you, you can use Lanthanated electrodes in most applications where Thoriated electrodes are recommended. Jon |
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"Universal" TIG electrodes (tungstens)?
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:03:16 -0600, Jon Elson
wrote: You want Zirconiated electrodes (brown color code) for aluminum. My zirconiated tungstens have a white band. http://store.aglevtech.net/zituel1.html |
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"Universal" TIG electrodes (tungstens)?
Chris wrote:
Looking at some online TIG consumable sellers web sites it seems I can buy TIG tungstens alloyed to make a universal electrode? I am new to TIG, having just bought a used Migatronic MTE220. I have received red and white banded electrodes, but I now wonder if the "grey" banded ones would allow me to weld aluminium ally, stainless steel and mild steel without buying several types of tungstens? I will be mainly doing light work on race car chassis and plumbing / exhausts. Gas will be pure argon, not a mix. Thanks. Oh, yeah, web sellers. I have bought a bunch of stuff from aglevtech, and he has been very good about everything. Prices on eBay vary depending on who is bidding against you, but he is good about delivering the stuff even if it closes cheap. Jon |
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"Universal" TIG electrodes (tungstens)?
IF your welder does advanced squarewave (AC balance) then if you make
the balance heavy to the EN side you can use reds on aluminum from what ive been told. That having been said I own a DC Machine so confirmation would be good Anything DC i've done fine with 2% thoriated (Red) Chris wrote: Looking at some online TIG consumable sellers web sites it seems I can buy TIG tungstens alloyed to make a universal electrode? I am new to TIG, having just bought a used Migatronic MTE220. I have received red and white banded electrodes, but I now wonder if the "grey" banded ones would allow me to weld aluminium ally, stainless steel and mild steel without buying several types of tungstens? I will be mainly doing light work on race car chassis and plumbing / exhausts. Gas will be pure argon, not a mix. Thanks. |
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"Universal" TIG electrodes (tungstens)?
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:28:16 +0000, Chris wrote:
Looking at some online TIG consumable sellers web sites it seems I can buy TIG tungstens alloyed to make a universal electrode? I am new to TIG, having just bought a used Migatronic MTE220. I have received red and white banded electrodes, but I now wonder if the "grey" banded ones would allow me to weld aluminium ally, stainless steel and mild steel without buying several types of tungstens? I will be mainly doing light work on race car chassis and plumbing / exhausts. Gas will be pure argon, not a mix. Thanks. Great info guys, thanks a lot, i have bought a couple of boxes of ceriated, and have some lanthanated on order, so I can now cover most bases with a limited range. great reource, this newsgroup. All the best for Christmas and a healthy New Year. |
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