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I recently read "Shop Savvy" by I think Mountebank, and in it he goes on about
how to do precision cutting with a cutting torch. He describes a torch guide which holds the torch a constant distance above the workpiece, which guides its movement in a straight line, and which uses a "clockwork" to control speed. I posted this recently, inquiring how this might have worked. Well, anyway one closed on ebay tonight (no I didn't win the auction). I saved the auction image: http://www.tinyisland.com/images/tem...kworkGuide.jpg The auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7569088405) text says the item was made in Sweden. I'd be real interested to know how this works. Grant Erwin Kirkland, Washington |
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I saw a similar machine, run with a variable speed motor, in Los
Angeles many years ago. They were cutting the 8 ft. dia. base gear for a dragline out of 8" thick plate with a template. Very impressive. Bugs |
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"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
how to do precision cutting with a cutting torch. He describes a torch guide which holds the torch a constant distance above the workpiece, which guides its movement in a straight line, and which uses a "clockwork" to control speed. I posted this recently, inquiring how this might have worked. Well, anyway one Are you specifically interested in the "clockwork" mechanism or in the idea of a guided torch for precision cutting? I can't help you with the clockwork but the track torch has been around for quite a while and I've even run across a few at auctions. Here's more info: http://cgi.ebay.com/Track-torch-burn...QQcmdZViewItem http://www.esabcutting.com/products/.../ultraline.cfm http://www.bugo.com/pdf/gofbroc.pdf There is also a pattern tracing version that uses a motor with a magnetic roller on it to follow the outside edge of a metal pattern a move the torch. In fact there's a book available that has plans for one along with a few other tools that are handy in the shop like a hydraulic press and sheetmetal brake IIRC. I have a copy somewhere and will see if I can find it if you want the title and author. Best Regards, Keith Marshall "I'm not grown up enough to be so old!" |
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I've seen one of the magnetic pattern tracers here
http://www.lowbucktools.com/flamecut.html http://www.lowbucktools.com/fckit.html . Looks like it would be simple to replicate. Keith Marshall wrote: "Grant Erwin" wrote in message how to do precision cutting with a cutting torch. He describes a torch guide which holds the torch a constant distance above the workpiece, which guides its movement in a straight line, and which uses a "clockwork" to control speed. I posted this recently, inquiring how this might have worked. Well, anyway one Are you specifically interested in the "clockwork" mechanism or in the idea of a guided torch for precision cutting? I can't help you with the clockwork but the track torch has been around for quite a while and I've even run across a few at auctions. Here's more info: http://cgi.ebay.com/Track-torch-burn...QQcmdZViewItem http://www.esabcutting.com/products/.../ultraline.cfm http://www.bugo.com/pdf/gofbroc.pdf There is also a pattern tracing version that uses a motor with a magnetic roller on it to follow the outside edge of a metal pattern a move the torch. In fact there's a book available that has plans for one along with a few other tools that are handy in the shop like a hydraulic press and sheetmetal brake IIRC. I have a copy somewhere and will see if I can find it if you want the title and author. Best Regards, Keith Marshall "I'm not grown up enough to be so old!" |
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Keith Marshall wrote:
... In fact there's a book available that has plans for one along with a few other tools that are handy in the shop like a hydraulic press and sheetmetal brake IIRC. ... "Racer's Guide to Fabricating Shop Equipment" ? |
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In fact there's a book available that has plans for one along with a few
other tools that are handy in the shop like a hydraulic press and sheetmetal brake IIRC. ... "Racer's Guide to Fabricating Shop Equipment" ? That's the one, thanks! Best Regards, Keith Marshall "I'm not grown up enough to be so old!" |
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On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:19:37 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Bob
Engelhardt quickly quoth: Keith Marshall wrote: ... In fact there's a book available that has plans for one along with a few other tools that are handy in the shop like a hydraulic press and sheetmetal brake IIRC. ... "Racer's Guide to Fabricating Shop Equipment" ? What's your take on the book, Bob? Amazon.com's lone reviewer didn't like it at all. Wow, just 53 pages? "Reviewer: Jim Rinaudo (Gulf Shores, al USA) ....The publication is outdated and shows how to make items that are available for much less from discounters like Harbor Freight or Great Northern. The only plan that may be useful is the flame cutter and the brake but the brake sells for about 300 bucks and there are plans available for all these on the internet. Save your money" For a 20-year-old book, it sure kept its resale value. They're $20 new, $18 used! -------------------------------------------- Proud (occasional) maker of Hungarian Paper Towels. http://www.diversify.com Comprehensive Website Design ================================================== ==== |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
What's your take on the book, Bob?... I actually don't own it - just stumbled across it. I agree with your take about a lot of money for the size. Bob |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:19:37 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Bob Engelhardt quickly quoth: Keith Marshall wrote: ... In fact there's a book available that has plans for one along with a few other tools that are handy in the shop like a hydraulic press and sheetmetal brake IIRC. ... "Racer's Guide to Fabricating Shop Equipment" ? What's your take on the book, Bob? Amazon.com's lone reviewer didn't like it at all. Wow, just 53 pages? "Reviewer: Jim Rinaudo (Gulf Shores, al USA) ...The publication is outdated and shows how to make items that are available for much less from discounters like Harbor Freight or Great Northern. The only plan that may be useful is the flame cutter and the brake but the brake sells for about 300 bucks and there are plans available for all these on the internet. Save your money" For a 20-year-old book, it sure kept its resale value. They're $20 new, $18 used! I suggest checking it out at your local library. If they don't have it, maybe it's time to learn how to request an interlibrary loan. Books like this are only worth the money if you're sure you'll go back to them again and again. I'm almost certainly only interested in the flame cutter, and that could easily be photocopied or scanned and saved without actually purchasing the book. GWE |
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I recently read "Shop Savvy" by I think Mountebank, and in it he goes on about
how to do precision cutting with a cutting torch. He describes a torch guide which holds the torch a constant distance above the workpiece, which guides its movement in a straight line, and which uses a "clockwork" to control speed. I posted this recently, inquiring how this might have worked. Well, anyway one closed on ebay tonight (no I didn't win the auction). I saved the auction image: http://www.tinyisland.com/images/tem...kworkGuide.jpg The auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7569088405) text says the item was made in Sweden. I'd be real interested to know how this works. Grant Erwin Kirkland, Washington Grant, Possibly some kind of "friction wheel" (designed in a "bulldozer track" shape to promote straight travel) and speed controlled by a governor of sorts inside the housing? Ken. |
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This unit appears to do only circles of adjustable radius.
JR Dweller in the cellar Grant Erwin wrote: I recently read "Shop Savvy" by I think Mountebank, and in it he goes on about how to do precision cutting with a cutting torch. He describes a torch guide which holds the torch a constant distance above the workpiece, which guides its movement in a straight line, and which uses a "clockwork" to control speed. I posted this recently, inquiring how this might have worked. Well, anyway one closed on ebay tonight (no I didn't win the auction). I saved the auction image: http://www.tinyisland.com/images/tem...kworkGuide.jpg The auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7569088405) text says the item was made in Sweden. I'd be real interested to know how this works. Grant Erwin Kirkland, Washington -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes Doubt yourself, and the real world will eat you alive The world doesn't revolve around you, it revolves around me No skeletons in the closet; just decomposing corpses -------------------------------------------------------------- Dependence is Vulnerability: -------------------------------------------------------------- "Open the Pod Bay Doors please, Hal" "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.." |
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Grant Erwin wrote: I recently read "Shop Savvy" by I think Mountebank, and in it he goes on about how to do precision cutting with a cutting torch. He describes a torch guide which holds the torch a constant distance above the workpiece, which guides its movement in a straight line, and which uses a "clockwork" to control speed. I posted this recently, inquiring how this might have worked. Well, anyway one closed on ebay tonight (no I didn't win the auction). I saved the auction image: http://www.tinyisland.com/images/tem...kworkGuide.jpg The auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7569088405) text says the item was made in Sweden. I'd be real interested to know how this works. Grant Erwin Kirkland, Washington Koike sells a cutting torch with a small crawler built in. http://www.koike.com/products/portablecutting/m_handyauto.asp?CatID=205| ZA4011103 Here is the newer version of the cutter I have. http://www.koike.com/products/portablecutting/t_beaver.asp?CatID=205|bea ver Mine was made in Germany in the 60's, and called a Cub Cadet. http://www.stagesmith.com/gallery/sh...ner/index.html -- "I love deadlines, especially the wooshing sound they make as they fly by" - Douglas Adams |
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