http://cgi.ebay.com/Lars-Gorton-Pant...QQcmdZViewItem


I believe this to be a Gorton 3-Z pantograph..which makes a very nice
small milling machine all by itself, let alone an engraver.

Mine gets a good work out as a small parts miller with endmills up to
about 3/8"

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

Gunner Asch wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lars-Gorton-Pant...QQcmdZViewItem


I believe this to be a Gorton 3-Z pantograph..which makes a very nice
small milling machine all by itself, let alone an engraver.

Mine gets a good work out as a small parts miller with endmills up to
about 3/8"

Gunner

Now THAT'S a bit closer. And it will fit on the trailer. Hmm....

--
Gary Brady
Austin, TX
www.powdercoatoven.4t.com

On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 15:04:52 GMT, Gary Brady
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lars-Gorton-Pant...QQcmdZViewItem


I believe this to be a Gorton 3-Z pantograph..which makes a very nice
small milling machine all by itself, let alone an engraver.

Mine gets a good work out as a small parts miller with endmills up to
about 3/8"

Gunner

Now THAT'S a bit closer. And it will fit on the trailer. Hmm....


And if you DONT want to use it as a pantograph..you can sell the type
and get most of your money back. (Currently at $107)

They show up on Ebay pretty regular btw...however..where you
are..shrug..thats another story.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

Gunner will you be quiet. I'm sitting 30 miles from it and watching. Sounds
like you know the owner???

BIG GRIN

--

Clif Holland KA5IPF
www.avvid.com


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 15:04:52 GMT, Gary Brady
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lars-Gorton-Pant...QQcmdZViewItem


I believe this to be a Gorton 3-Z pantograph..which makes a very nice
small milling machine all by itself, let alone an engraver.

Mine gets a good work out as a small parts miller with endmills up to
about 3/8"

Gunner

Now THAT'S a bit closer. And it will fit on the trailer. Hmm....


And if you DONT want to use it as a pantograph..you can sell the type
and get most of your money back. (Currently at $107)

They show up on Ebay pretty regular btw...however..where you
are..shrug..thats another story.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 03:32:08 GMT, "Clif Holland"
wrote:

Gunner will you be quiet. I'm sitting 30 miles from it and watching. Sounds
like you know the owner???

BIG GRIN

Lol..nope..the guy is a stranger, and the pictures are poor enough
that it may NOT be a 3z..but Im pretty sure it is.

http://inv.wencomachinery.com/q/webi...121141,,1NPBIB
http://www.carneymachinery.com/item_...entory_id=4006

Btw...I have the Gorton pantograph book, and I may be scanning it
before long into a PDF file. Covers all the various models and setups.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 08:22:43 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Gunner
Asch quickly quoth:

Btw...I have the Gorton pantograph book, and I may be scanning it
before long into a PDF file. Covers all the various models and setups.

OOOH! Please do. I urge all owners of old machines and manuals to scan
them to make them available to future users of the machines which
outlast us all.


Oh, and while I have your attention, emails to you don't seem to be
ACKed, so here's one all (but Terry Collins) will enjoy:

--snip--
Retirement Check

The Navy found they had too many officers and decided to offer an
early retirement bonus. They promised any officer who volunteered for
retirement a bonus of $1,000 for every inch measured in a straight
line between any two points in his body. The officer got to choose
what those two points would be.

The first officer who accepted, asked that he be measured from the top
of his head to the tip of his toes. He was measured at six feet and
walked out with a bonus of $72,000.

The second officer who accepted was a little smarter and asked to be
measured from the tip of his outstretched hands to his toes. He
walked out with $96,000.

The third one was a non officer, grizzly old Chief who, when asked
where he would like to be measured, replied, "From the tip of my
weenie to my testicles."

It was suggested by the pension man that he might want to reconsider,
explaining about the nice big checks the previous two officers had
received.

But the old Chief insisted and they decided to go along with him,
providing the measurement was taken by a medical officer. The medical
officer arrived and instructed the Chief to "drop 'em," which he did.
The medical officer placed the tape measure on the tip of the Chief's
weenie and began to work back.

My God!" he suddenly exclaimed. "Where are your testicles?"

The old Chief calmly replied, "Vietnam."
--snip--

--
Sex is Evil, Evil is Sin, Sin is Forgiven.
Gee, ain't religion GREAT?
---------------------------------------------
http://diversify.com Sin-free Website Design

Gunner
What kind of tooling would fit this thing?

- -
Rex Burkheimer
WM Automotive
Fort Worth TX

Gunner Asch wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lars-Gorton-Pant...QQcmdZViewItem


I believe this to be a Gorton 3-Z pantograph..which makes a very nice
small milling machine all by itself, let alone an engraver.

Mine gets a good work out as a small parts miller with endmills up to
about 3/8"

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:58:31 -0600, Rex B
wrote:

Gunner
What kind of tooling would fit this thing?

- -
Rex Burkheimer
WM Automotive
Fort Worth TX

Just about anything with a 3/8 shank

Gunner


Gunner Asch wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lars-Gorton-Pant...QQcmdZViewItem


I believe this to be a Gorton 3-Z pantograph..which makes a very nice
small milling machine all by itself, let alone an engraver.

Mine gets a good work out as a small parts miller with endmills up to
about 3/8"

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner


"The importance of morality is that people behave themselves even if
nobody's watching. There are not enough cops and laws to replace
personal morality as a means to produce a civilized society. Indeed,
the police and criminal justice system are the last desperate line of
defense for a civilized society. Unfortunately, too many of us see
police, laws and the criminal justice system as society's first line
of defense." --Walter Williams

Am I bidding against someone here on this?

- -
Rex Burkheimer
WM Automotive
Fort Worth TX

Gunner Asch wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lars-Gorton-Pant...QQcmdZViewItem


I believe this to be a Gorton 3-Z pantograph..which makes a very nice
small milling machine all by itself, let alone an engraver.

Mine gets a good work out as a small parts miller with endmills up to
about 3/8"

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

If you look at the sellers other items he has an additional machine
also for sale.

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:10:53 -0600, Rex B
wrote:

Am I bidding against someone here on this?

- -
Rex Burkheimer
WM Automotive
Fort Worth TX

I think one of the posters here is desperate for a small machine
(mill) for his home shop. Ive been in contact with him on this, and if
he decides to speak, he can identify himself.

Gunner



Gunner Asch wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lars-Gorton-Pant...QQcmdZViewItem


I believe this to be a Gorton 3-Z pantograph..which makes a very nice
small milling machine all by itself, let alone an engraver.

Mine gets a good work out as a small parts miller with endmills up to
about 3/8"

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner


"The importance of morality is that people behave themselves even if
nobody's watching. There are not enough cops and laws to replace
personal morality as a means to produce a civilized society. Indeed,
the police and criminal justice system are the last desperate line of
defense for a civilized society. Unfortunately, too many of us see
police, laws and the criminal justice system as society's first line
of defense." --Walter Williams

Gunner wrote:

I think one of the posters here is desperate for a small machine
(mill) for his home shop. Ive been in contact with him on this, and if
he decides to speak, he can identify himself.

Gunner

I made some noise about it earlier, but didn't bid on it. I would,
however, have thrown at least $350-$500 or so at it. I didn't know much
about that type of machine and had other things on the burner (travel
plans) this week, so I decided it against bidding.


--
Gary Brady
Austin, TX
www.powdercoatoven.4t.com

It failed to hit reserve at $191 or so.
I had a snipe in at more than that, but cancelled it at the last minute.

- -
Rex Burkheimer
WM Automotive
Fort Worth TX

Gary Brady wrote:
Gunner wrote:

I think one of the posters here is desperate for a small machine
(mill) for his home shop. Ive been in contact with him on this, and if
he decides to speak, he can identify himself.

Gunner


I made some noise about it earlier, but didn't bid on it. I would,
however, have thrown at least $350-$500 or so at it. I didn't know much
about that type of machine and had other things on the burner (travel
plans) this week, so I decided it against bidding.

Rex B wrote:
It failed to hit reserve at $191 or so.
I had a snipe in at more than that, but cancelled it at the last minute.

- -
Rex Burkheimer
WM Automotive
Fort Worth TX


So what's this machine really worth, as a milling machine? Is it
1ph/3ph? Weight and size looks OK for a home shop. Apparently no one
in Fort Worth wanted it very badly-not at $191.50. No way of telling
what the reserve was.


--
Gary Brady
Austin, TX
www.powdercoatoven.4t.com

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:53:38 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:10:53 -0600, Rex B
wrote:

Am I bidding against someone here on this?

- -
Rex Burkheimer
WM Automotive
Fort Worth TX

I think one of the posters here is desperate for a small machine
(mill) for his home shop. Ive been in contact with him on this, and if
he decides to speak, he can identify himself.

Gunner


I decided to wait and get what I really needed. I have his phone
number if anyone is interested.

Thanks for the advice, Gunner.