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Bruce L. Bergman
 
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Default Help with CA Propane OPD exemptions anyone?

I can't find any links, but not from lack of searching...

I need to find the California rules for marking a non-OPD propane
cylinder exempt for "Industrial Use" so it can be filled, and I can't
find that information anywhere. I have several older barbecue bottles
that are fine for use with my weed-burner, but nobody will fill them.

(Except for one 30-pounder with a Visible Jr. level gauge on it, but
that bugger's heavy...)

I have an asphalt patch to put the top coat on next week, so I'll
need the weed burner working to heat the patching asphalt that's in
the hole now (settling) and the top coat of patch mix so the top coat
sticks.

I'm told using any high flow torch on a OPD tank with a flow
restrictor in the POL valve is an exercise in frustration...

That, and the barbecue just might come in handy for cooking on in
the next earthquake if we have enough fuel on hand for it - and one
30-pounder won't go far.

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Default Help with CA Propane OPD exemptions anyone?

I am unsure if finding the regs would help. What you really need is
to ask the various propane distributors what they think is needed. If
they say that a stencil is adequate, then they will fill the tank. If
the regs say a stencil is adequate, the distributor may or may not
fill the tank.

Large tanks are exempt, so you could get a large tark filled and then
transfer propane to a smaller tank that is more convienent to use. As
far as I know this is legal as long as you don't transport the smaller
tank over public roads.

Dan



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I need to find the California rules for marking a non-OPD propane
cylinder exempt for "Industrial Use" so it can be filled, and I can't
find that information anywhere. I have several older barbecue bottles
that are fine for use with my weed-burner, but nobody will fill them.



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Default Help with CA Propane OPD exemptions anyone?

I can't speak for Ca, but here in PA, my commercial propane supplier has no
problem filling our company's non OPD tanks (20lbs)


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I can't find any links, but not from lack of searching...

I need to find the California rules for marking a non-OPD propane
cylinder exempt for "Industrial Use" so it can be filled, and I can't
find that information anywhere. I have several older barbecue bottles
that are fine for use with my weed-burner, but nobody will fill them.

(Except for one 30-pounder with a Visible Jr. level gauge on it, but
that bugger's heavy...)

I have an asphalt patch to put the top coat on next week, so I'll
need the weed burner working to heat the patching asphalt that's in
the hole now (settling) and the top coat of patch mix so the top coat
sticks.

I'm told using any high flow torch on a OPD tank with a flow
restrictor in the POL valve is an exercise in frustration...

That, and the barbecue just might come in handy for cooking on in
the next earthquake if we have enough fuel on hand for it - and one
30-pounder won't go far.

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Kent Fowler
 
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On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 05:07:44 GMT, Bruce L. Bergman
wrote:

I can't find any links, but not from lack of searching...

I need to find the California rules for marking a non-OPD propane
cylinder exempt for "Industrial Use" so it can be filled, and I can't
find that information anywhere. I have several older barbecue bottles
that are fine for use with my weed-burner, but nobody will fill them.



-- Bruce --


My propane dealer said the regs state a non OPD can be filled
by labeling the bottle " Welding Gas" Lots of industry uses propane
instead of acetylene these days and this lets the bottles get filled.

Kent
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:37:50 GMT, someone who calls themselves Kent
Fowler wrote:
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 05:07:44 GMT, Bruce L. Bergman
wrote:


I can't find any links, but not from lack of searching...

I need to find the California rules for marking a non-OPD propane
cylinder exempt for "Industrial Use" so it can be filled, and I can't
find that information anywhere. I have several older barbecue bottles
that are fine for use with my weed-burner, but nobody will fill them.


My propane dealer said the regs state a non OPD can be filled
by labeling the bottle " Welding Gas" Lots of industry uses propane
instead of acetylene these days and this lets the bottles get filled.


I just went to my local welding supply today, who also has a propane
filling station - and they gave me a different slant - "We can't fill
the non-OPD bottles here ourselves, but we can exchange them like for
like." My guess is that they have to fill them by weight so there's
no chance of going over.

Gee, It'd be nice to ask a simple question and get a straight answer
once in a while... :-P

So I gave up - went to Harbor Fright and got a torch (On Special,
even!), and used a regular OPD tank for the torch - and it didn't try
to choke off.

Of course, I didn't try slamming the trigger wide open and holding
it there either, 2/3 open (with a nice afterburner roar) was more than
enough heat for warming up a 6" x 4' patch so the finish coat tamped
down nice and flat. A little blacktop coating and it'll disappear.

-- Bruce --
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Default Help with CA Propane OPD exemptions anyone?

If I have a time slot, I'll try my torch - the one for my furnace.

I find it hard to believe it won't clamp on it. It uses gas!

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