On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 14:21:16 GMT, Ignoramus1729 wrote:

I ****ed up. Tried to use 9x18 Makarov rounds in a Beretta 92FS. Never
actually fired the gun with that bullet, since it got stuck.

Both the 9x18 and 9x19 headspace on the neck, so your case is probably
1mm too far forward.

It jammed solid. The slide is perfectly stuck. Does not go forward or
backward. Releasing the slide release or magazine release does
nothing.

I can't reconcile that. I'd guess the end of the case is at the front
of the chamber, and that the extractor is behind the rim of the case.
But I can't mentally picture the geometry that would make the slide not
open. Is it fully shut, as in barrel locked up?

Just WTF should I do now... Any ideas...

I'm pretty confident in the shop, and around guns in general, but
to me this sounds like a "gunsmith" call.

Dave

Ignoramus1729 wrote:

I do not post to rec.guns due to their email policy and was hoping
that someone here might know.

I ****ed up. Tried to use 9x18 Makarov rounds in a Beretta 92FS. Never
actually fired the gun with that bullet, since it got stuck.

It jammed solid. The slide is perfectly stuck. Does not go forward or
backward. Releasing the slide release or magazine release does
nothing.

Just WTF should I do now... Any ideas...



If I understand, the round is live? If so, see a gunsmith and make
sure you understand the transport rules in your area about
transporting a loaded firearm.


Wes
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the
consequences." -- PJ O'Rourke

On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 16:31:32 -0400, wrote:
Ignoramus1729 wrote:

Just WTF should I do now... Any ideas...

If I understand, the round is live? If so, see a gunsmith and make
sure you understand the transport rules in your area about
transporting a loaded firearm.

Heh. He's in Illinois, the most gun-unfriendly state in the Midwest.
I still can't visualize the geometry involved to make that slide not
open. Far as I know, the only difference between 9x18 and 9x19 is,
well, one mm in length of the case, and I can't reconcile that with the
slide not opening back up.

Iggy, what's the composition of the bullet in question?

In article , Ignoramus1729 says...

Just WTF should I do now... Any ideas...

Call a reputable gunsmith in your local area. Explain the
exact problem to him, and exactly how it occurred. Listen
to what he suggests, and then do exactly that.

Jim


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"Ignoramus1729" wrote in message
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The slug is jammed in the spout, tap it out with a wood or plastic rod while
trying to move the slide. Don't look down the tube while you are doing this
although the odds of ignition aren't great. When it's your time...it's your
time, but don't dare God.

On 3 Oct 2005 14:52:43 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:

On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 14:21:16 GMT, Ignoramus1729 wrote:

I ****ed up. Tried to use 9x18 Makarov rounds in a Beretta 92FS. Never
actually fired the gun with that bullet, since it got stuck.

Both the 9x18 and 9x19 headspace on the neck, so your case is probably
1mm too far forward.

It jammed solid. The slide is perfectly stuck. Does not go forward or
backward. Releasing the slide release or magazine release does
nothing.


It's a diameter issue Dave. 9 Para are .356 and 9 Mak is .364 on
bullet diameter. Similar case differences too, although you're
correct that the Mak is 1mm shorter.

Careful tapping of a dowel rod might open it up. If you can't get it,
drive it over to your favorite gunsmith.