These product(s) are (apparently) no longer available in Canada and can not
be imported

Can anyone advise re a recipe for a quick and dirty (albeit thin layer)
case-hardening compund. Surely some of our gurus here have thought about
htis one!

I used a mixture of "Hoof and Horn" as an apprentice in the Royal Navy in
the 40's but it is not easily arranged to hold at high temperatures for long
periods in a small workshop sans furnace!

Responses to my disposable e-mail addy at lucymykitty at the Yahoo dot com
site would be appreciated

Thanks all

Peter

Pete wrote:
These product(s) are (apparently) no longer available in Canada and can not
be imported

Can anyone advise re a recipe for a quick and dirty (albeit thin layer)
case-hardening compund. Surely some of our gurus here have thought about
htis one!

I used a mixture of "Hoof and Horn" as an apprentice in the Royal Navy in
the 40's but it is not easily arranged to hold at high temperatures for long
periods in a small workshop sans furnace!

Responses to my disposable e-mail addy at lucymykitty at the Yahoo dot com
site would be appreciated

Thanks all

Peter



You can get Kasenite from MSC. Go to
http://www1.mscdirect.com/cgi/nnsrhm and type "kasenite" in the quick
search keyword field.

Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com

Hey Peter,

Where do you live? I'll be in Detroit on Wednesday, and could pick
some up if anyone identifies a place to get it.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.

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On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:33:59 GMT, "Pete" wrote:

These product(s) are (apparently) no longer available in Canada and can not
be imported

Can anyone advise re a recipe for a quick and dirty (albeit thin layer)
case-hardening compund. Surely some of our gurus here have thought about
htis one!

I used a mixture of "Hoof and Horn" as an apprentice in the Royal Navy in
the 40's but it is not easily arranged to hold at high temperatures for long
periods in a small workshop sans furnace!

Responses to my disposable e-mail addy at lucymykitty at the Yahoo dot com
site would be appreciated

Thanks all

Peter

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:33:59 GMT, "Pete" wrote:

These product(s) are (apparently) no longer available in Canada and can not
be imported

Can anyone advise re a recipe for a quick and dirty (albeit thin layer)
case-hardening compund. Surely some of our gurus here have thought about
htis one!

I used a mixture of "Hoof and Horn" as an apprentice in the Royal Navy in
the 40's but it is not easily arranged to hold at high temperatures for long
periods in a small workshop sans furnace!

Responses to my disposable e-mail addy at lucymykitty at the Yahoo dot com
site would be appreciated

Thanks all

Peter

Brownell's has it:
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/sto...&title=KASENIT

They accept international orders. Is there some specific prohibition
against inporting Kasenite to Canada?

Guy Lautard (a Canadian) addresses case -hardening in one (or more)
of his Bedside Readers. I think one method was using bone meal in a
"muffle" comprised of a piece of iron pipe. This could be done in a
charcoal fire.

"Don Foreman" wrote in message
...

Guy Lautard (a Canadian) addresses case -hardening in one (or more)
of his Bedside Readers. I think one method was using bone meal in a
"muffle" comprised of a piece of iron pipe. This could be done in a
charcoal fire.

Bone meal and barium carbonate (for, I think, color hardening). Barium
carbonate may be had fairly inexpensively from some ceramics shops, and from
most pyrotechnic chemicals dealers, like Skylighter.com and Firefox.com

LLoyd

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" wrote in message
...

"Don Foreman" wrote in message
...

Guy Lautard (a Canadian) addresses case -hardening in one (or more)
of his Bedside Readers. I think one method was using bone meal in a
"muffle" comprised of a piece of iron pipe. This could be done in a
charcoal fire.

Bone meal and barium carbonate (for, I think, color hardening). Barium
carbonate may be had fairly inexpensively from some ceramics shops, and
from
most pyrotechnic chemicals dealers, like Skylighter.com and Firefox.com

LLoyd

Barium carbonate is one of several chemicals that act as an activator,
greatly increasing the rate of carbon diffusion. Case hardening can be
done without an activator, but it takes long furnace times for a significant
case depth to develope.

Randy

Hi Brian,

All of the usual suspects should carry it. J&L has closed most of
their stores, but it might be available from their main store in
Livonia. Otherwise, KBC on the east side or any of the Production
Machinery stores should stock it. Heck, if it works for you, I'll
donate my can.

Paul

Pete wrote:

Can anyone advise re a recipe for a quick and dirty (albeit thin layer)
case-hardening compund. Surely some of our gurus here have thought about
this one!
Responses to my disposable e-mail addy at lucymykitty at the Yahoo dot com
site would be appreciated


I have some 'HARD-N-TUFF' case hardening green powder
that is not poisonous. You heat the steel red hot and
dip it in that powder. Then reheat the steel and quench.
On the data sheet it lists as the supplier:
James Morton Limited 519-621 7240
75 State Street Cambridge(Galt) Ontario N1R 5V5
This may be an old address as I see that I have
hand written on that sheet the postal code N1R 3L3
I don't know if they are still in business as this
info is more than 30 years old. HTH John
--
I'm getting old, I can't make up my mind:
When my glass is full, I want it empty.
When my glass is empty, I want it full.

Hey Paul,

Well, we haven't heard back from Pete yet about where he's located.
So, maybe we'll wait and see what he says first.

Take care.

Brian.

ps....any action on selling the Caddigger?

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On 12 Sep 2005 18:02:33 -0700, "Paul Amaranth"
wrote:

Hi Brian,

All of the usual suspects should carry it. J&L has closed most of
their stores, but it might be available from their main store in
Livonia. Otherwise, KBC on the east side or any of the Production
Machinery stores should stock it. Heck, if it works for you, I'll
donate my can.

Paul

Thanks - but as I said, I can NOT import it !

Peter


"Abrasha" wrote in message
...
Pete wrote:
These product(s) are (apparently) no longer available in Canada and can
not be imported

Can anyone advise re a recipe for a quick and dirty (albeit thin layer)
case-hardening compund. Surely some of our gurus here have thought about
htis one!

I used a mixture of "Hoof and Horn" as an apprentice in the Royal Navy in
the 40's but it is not easily arranged to hold at high temperatures for
long periods in a small workshop sans furnace!

Responses to my disposable e-mail addy at lucymykitty at the Yahoo dot
com site would be appreciated

Thanks all

Peter

You can get Kasenite from MSC. Go to http://www1.mscdirect.com/cgi/nnsrhm
and type "kasenite" in the quick search keyword field.

Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:42:48 GMT, the renowned "Pete"
wrote:

Thanks - but as I said, I can NOT import it !

Peter

The MSDS says 90% Boric acid, plus iron oxides.

Don't know why you couldn't import it though, it looks pretty
harmless.

Unless it's Boric acid packaged as a food or food additive, in which
it case it violates Section 4(a) of the Food and Drugs Act. ;-) I
imagine the iron oxides would make it pretty unpalatable.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

"R. O'Brian" wrote in message
news:AdoVe.25143$hp.21970@lakeread08...
"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" wrote in
message
...

Bone meal and barium carbonate (for, I think, color hardening). Barium
carbonate may be had fairly inexpensively from some ceramics shops, and
from
most pyrotechnic chemicals dealers, like Skylighter.com and Firefox.com

LLoyd

Barium carbonate is one of several chemicals that act as an activator,
greatly increasing the rate of carbon diffusion. Case hardening can be
done without an activator, but it takes long furnace times for a
significant
case depth to develope.

Pete -- you sent email, but when I replied, it bounced. so...

Pete, you really should check out Guy Lautard's "The Machinist's Bedside
Reader" series. In one of them, he lists in _complete_ detail how to make
one's own peach-pit charcoal, and the complete formula and process for
in-shop case-hardening. The one article is worth the price.

I _think_ the article is called "The Bullseye Mixture", but I may be
confusing that with another in the same series of books.

Lloyd